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Old 10-22-2011, 01:20 AM   #721
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What kind of oil did they use?
Oh that has to be the best question so far..... brilliant!
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Old 10-22-2011, 07:28 AM   #722
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Oh that has to be the best question so far..... brilliant!
I think which tires is a more appropriate question
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:00 AM   #723
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Oh that has to be the best question so far..... brilliant!
Yeah, but what is the best luggage system to use on this bike? Jesse, Micatech, Touratech, SW Motech, will there be any Varios anymore? Important crap has to be worked out before we can even think about oil!!!
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:05 AM   #724
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Okay, so last time i got home to the states from this big kitty litter box in SouthWest Asia I snagged a nice '03 F650 GS to "learn" on.
First thing I did after buying it was to ride it into the friggin' ground. Went straight from the dealer down to our farm to a nice 2 acre claypit on our property that the local kids have been using for their own little motocross track. Beat the immortal hell out of that bike and it took it all in stride, no issues. Plenty of "vroom-vroom-vroom-whee-whee-whee-drop-drop-drop" moments. Also learned that while the F650 GS can actually "fly", I can't.
One really comes to appreciate the ATGATT mentality.

So now I've winterized the 650 and garaged it and am back in the sand box. Been thinking about upgrading to a R 1200 GS next year when I believe the mission here will finally be "done" - at least for a couple of years. By that time I'll have plenty of money saved up for a new R 1200 GS (can you say "full warranty"?) along with plenty of farkles. Plan is to literally live off the bike for a year or more doing nothing more than touring around North America - might head down Panama way to visit some friends down there.

Now, to make the already-long story even longer I'm at a crossroads: buy the "old" R1200 GS air-cooled model or a brand-new water-cooled R1200 GS? Plan is to buy, spend a couple of weeks farkling it up, then hit the frickin' road heading south to keep out of winter conditions as long as possible. But if the new water-cooled 1200 GS changes up the exhaust and FD positioning that will make it pretty much incompatible with existing third-party luggage products. I figure at least 6 more months - possibly a year - until the 3rd party folks catch up. I've heard way too many horror stories about the BMW luggage breaking up on impact to want to go that route.

Of course, if BMW would like to "sponsor" my year-long odyssey of the odd with a brand-new water-cooled R 1200 GS mit luggage and scheduled servicing I'll pay for fuel...complete with weekly reports of any issues found. Yeah, that's not going to happen. But it's nice to dream.

So yeah, this kind of sucks....going with a used air-cooled I probably won't get the full time/mileage on the warranty and going with new I won't be able to farkle-up and hit the road as fast I want.
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:29 AM   #725
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yeah, there will be new controls. Very similar to the 1600gt, or 1000rr controls.
The very comfy turnsignal-buttons will be gone
A tribute to stupid motorcycle-magazin-writers....
nooooooo....

One of the nicest things about the GS is the three button setup, easy to use, you can't miss the buttons... always been a fan of 'em.
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:33 AM   #726
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If you plan on spending significant time south of the border, I would suggest a lightly used 2012 aircooled. First, you wont take the big hit on value, will save money, and will still have 2 years warranty left. Second, the first year bike will likely have a few issues, probably small, but there will also likely be recalls that you may not be able to get handled south of the border easily.

That said, I am going for the WetHead.

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Old 10-22-2011, 01:49 PM   #727
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nooooooo....

One of the nicest things about the GS is the three button setup, easy to use, you can't miss the buttons... always been a fan of 'em.
...never have been a fan of it, only BMW does it and it's confusing as hell at least to me, reset by pressing
thumb up instead of just pushing....
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Old 10-22-2011, 02:22 PM   #728
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...never have been a fan of it, only BMW does it and it's confusing as hell at least to me, reset by pressing
thumb up instead of just pushing....
For signals Harley Davidson also uses left and right buttons, though you cancel hitting the same button again.

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Old 10-22-2011, 04:37 PM   #729
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"But if the new water-cooled 1200 GS changes up the exhaust and FD positioning that will make it pretty much incompatible with existing third-party luggage products. I figure at least 6 more months - possibly a year - until the 3rd party folks catch up. I've heard way too many horror stories about the BMW luggage breaking up on impact to want to go that route"


It will be on the $$ side but I'm willing to bet Touratech will have stuff to fit the bike when it comes out or soon after. They (TT and BMW) seem to be co-developers on their equipment sometimes. On that note, I've not done a trip as you plan but have the metal cases on my GSA and no problems. They're basically the same as the TT stuff anyway and BMW is sure to have something like this when the bike comes out...knowing the aftermarket may be behind a bit.

Keep your head down and safe travels on your return
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Old 10-22-2011, 04:58 PM   #730
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Yeah, the wet heads.
What about "Water Head"

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Old 10-22-2011, 09:04 PM   #731
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What about "Water Head"

WetHead. It fits with OilHead, AirHead, HexHead and CamHead better than WaterHead.

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Old 10-22-2011, 10:20 PM   #732
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Port for hydronic heated gear or has this already been covered here?
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Old 10-24-2011, 07:27 PM   #733
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WetHead. It fits with OilHead, AirHead, HexHead and CamHead better than WaterHead.
I'm thinking "Swirlies"
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Old 10-25-2011, 12:00 PM   #734
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Who knows when this new bike or WETHEAD is going to be unvielled? Will it be at a motorcycle show in europe?? Sure look forward to it. I googled the frankfurt motocycle show and it appears to be in March some time. I am ready for a new gsa lets go BMW chop chop!
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Old 10-25-2011, 12:03 PM   #735
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Nothing new? Come on, the Triumph guys are all atwitter about the new Explorer!
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