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Old 03-25-2013, 07:49 PM   #7396
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Congratulations! What options did you get and did the bike you test rode have dynamic suspension?

Only the premium package is readily available here in Japan (other specs can be ordered if you want to wait months) and it comes with dynamic suspension. I test-rode one Saturday and called up my buddy JV to tell him how impressed I was with the motor. Couple hours later I get an email saying he pulled the trigger on one.

The one I rode I had for 40 minutes in an urban environment. Not nearly enough time or conditions to evaluate the suspension in its various modes. Can only say that I had no complaints. I stayed in dynamic riding mode almost the whole time.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:51 PM   #7397
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Congratulations! What options did you get and did the bike you test rode have dynamic suspension?
Thanks!
All bikes available here have the same package of extras. I think the bike has everything except spoke wheels and Cruise control.
The only thing I would have changed if I had ordered the bike would be to get the regular suspension. I might change my mind if the Dynamic ESA turns out to be very good but so far the electronic suspension gimmicks haven't compared favorably to a nice set of high end shocks IMHO. Will report back about how I like it compared to the Öhlins I have now.

The test ride was in Tokyo traffic so not much can be said about the suspension. I was surprised how agile the complete bike felt compared to the old GS. Everything from the lower COG, the slicker gearbox and clutch to the throttle response makes it easier to ride.
I believe the LC bike is much less an acquired taste compared to the old one. I think even a non GS rider would enjoy a first ride on this bike. On the older bike some miles were needed for people to like it I think.

I am getting the Navi IV with the bike. Like the thought of having it nicely integrated with the bike.
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:37 PM   #7398
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Does anyone know if the navigation mount plate can be easily unplugged and removed? Can anyone confirm that it blocks the view of the top of the tach?
Here's a picture from the Seattle MC Show

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Old 03-25-2013, 09:47 PM   #7399
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Here's a picture from the Seattle MC Show

Thanks...looks fine from that angle, but either you are less than 5' tall or you are in a tuck in that photo
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:59 PM   #7400
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oil drain plug

Does anyone know whether the engine oil drain plug have a magnet end? If not what's the size of threads? Magnet oil plug is almost the 1st thing I put on every bike I've owned.
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:07 PM   #7401
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Thanks...looks fine from that angle, but either you are less than 5' tall or you are in a tuck in that photo
I think I was standing beside the bike but can't remember since it was 3 months ago.
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:46 PM   #7402
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For a while I have tried to decide between the KTM 1190 or the LC GS. I currently ride a 2006 GS in great shape with full Öhlins suspension.

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I feel a bit like a BMW fan boy with 2 new BMW in the garage....but they were both bought for their individual merits. The s1000rr is also a very sweet bike.
Congratualations. Nice combo. S1000RR and the new 1200GS LC. You can always retrofit the cruise control, if you find out that you can't live without it, and the same goes for the spoke wheels (they are however very expensive).

Please, share some photos of your new ride.

Max :-)
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:46 PM   #7403
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Did you test ride the new 1200GS LC (liquid cooled) ? I can understand that the looks of this new GS (as well as previous GS models) doesn't appeal to all but judging it like you have done without riding it first might take a positive surprise away from you.

Reading your further comments it seams as you are more into a KTM or a sports car. I can highly recommend a Ferrari 458 but I am not so sure about the KTM.

Max :-)
Perhaps I was a bit harsh. But - to me - it lacks appeal, and lineage back to the original GS is kind of difficult to spot. This one is a departure...from a design that has been very successful, and even iconic.

The wet clutch and alternator in a sensible place take the engineering concept in the right direction, but the big metal ear hiding the radiator seems unnecessary and looks a bit frail. Others looking at it commented on the lack of windshield bars for GPS mounts, and a few other things. The adjustment feature on the windshield, though, worked well...at least in the shop.

Didn't get to ride it. Probably will, one of these days, though. I don't hate it...but it didn't immediately speak to me like the original did...and regrettably, I never owned one of those, either.

More disclosure: I have a '10 GSA. I used to have a 990. Not sure that I'd buy the BMW the next time. Probably won't need another dual sport at this point in my life. I don't ride off road very much at all. And the Ferrari guys don't make a subcompact under 20 grand, which would be the only model I could afford now, after putting a couple of kids through college!

Maybe someday I can own another 4-speed Super Beetle...but until then, I have the GSA...and that's all I need. That, and this lamp...and this paddle ball. And that's all I need.
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Old 03-26-2013, 12:54 AM   #7404
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A question to all you guys that already did few kilometers on new bikes. How's the oil consumption ?
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Old 03-26-2013, 01:12 AM   #7405
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Who will? Some yet unknown Chinese company? Probably.
Do four and six cylinder boxers count?
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Old 03-26-2013, 01:44 AM   #7406
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I test rode the new GS last friday. I have an 05 GS. I liked the extra HP and the handling felt alright for the short 15 minute ride. The 1 thing I absolutely disliked was where the sidestand "lever" was located. It is in between the gearshift and footpeg. I could not get my boot under the gearshift comfortably.
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Old 03-26-2013, 03:41 AM   #7407
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I test rode the new GS last friday. I have an 05 GS. I liked the extra HP and the handling felt alright for the short 15 minute ride. The 1 thing I absolutely disliked was where the sidestand "lever" was located. It is in between the gearshift and footpeg. I could not get my boot under the gearshift comfortably.
Heel or Toe? Pushing it down with your heel is so easy
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Old 03-26-2013, 03:58 AM   #7408
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Confirmed that the mount with GPS on, does block partial view of the tach, mostly from the top.

Here's the pic that TallGuy posted, for illustration, the shadow of the GPS onto the tach, is basically what gets blocked IMHO.
This also depends on the tilt of the bracket/navigator and rider height. I'm 1.80 meters and ride with the seat in the normal (not high) position. I can adjust the bracket enough to see all the numbers including the six. This without giving the navigator to far a tilt. I cannot keep the navigator horizontal, that way i wouldn't be able to see the top of tach (the six). But i don't like it horizontal anyway.
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Old 03-26-2013, 04:18 AM   #7409
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The s1000rr is also a very sweet bike.
Now someone in Japan to have the S1000RR is the news for me.
I don't see a fan boy there, I see someone really evaluating pluses and minuses.
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Old 03-26-2013, 04:23 AM   #7410
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A question to all you guys that already did few kilometers on new bikes. How's the oil consumption ?
I REALLY doubt we would have news about this yet.
(also I doubt it will burn oil - it now takes fully synthetic etc.)

In my 07 I have upped the oil 3 (read: THREE) times in its 6 year life (with almost daily riding) and actually more or less know WHY I burned it, so oil was never a problem for me.
It makes a difference when you don't bother too much and let the machine do its work. I was never scared about how hi or low in the window the oil was as long as it was somewhere in there between oil changes.

(now where are the "how to run it in" posts? strange we didn't have any yet hahahaha)
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