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Old 03-27-2013, 04:53 PM   #7546
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Cooler than those on a 1150RT I used to have and the K12GT.
The test bike I rode they were noticeably less hot than on my 2012. And I have grip buddies on the 12' too.
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Old 03-27-2013, 05:13 PM   #7547
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Heated grip definitely not as warm as on previous BMW models,similar heat output to the S1000RR and not warm enough for UK winters.
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Old 03-27-2013, 05:42 PM   #7548
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Heated grip definitely not as warm as on previous BMW models,similar heat output to the S1000RR and not warm enough for UK winters.
This seems to be one of the things that is a "universal" report on the bike so far.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:00 PM   #7549
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:23 PM   #7550
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looks like tire wear issues are already popping up
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:45 PM   #7551
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:30 PM   #7552
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This seems to be one of the things that is a "universal" report on the bike so far.
I wonder why they are not getting that hot anymore, to do with the alternator output and possible restrictions of individual consumers? I guess we'll never find out.
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:34 PM   #7553
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Fantastic!
Looks like the typical customer pre-delivery check
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:57 PM   #7554
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Bag Availability

Has anyone heard if the bags are available at this time? On my last trip to the shop I was told they were not available but i see photos with the bags on the bike.
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:04 PM   #7555
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I wonder why they are not getting that hot anymore, to do with the alternator output and possible restrictions of individual consumers? I guess we'll never find out.
The alternator output has been downgraded from 720 W. to 580 W. because they didn't need double-spark anymore, and they added a decompressor of some sort at start-up. But I guess it was still a bit weak, so they limited the heated grips power requirements. It's a shame and a letdown. I don't even know if my electric liner will work okay via Canbus.
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:18 PM   #7556
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Either that's the rider's new GS/LC or the owner is very trusting with his demo. Fantastic!

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Old 03-27-2013, 08:49 PM   #7557
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That is an awesome video!!!!
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:52 PM   #7558
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finally

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After deposit, wait, delay, weather, etc. picked up the white fang (nick name compliments of my wife who has a triple black) today at noon. A lot of fun. Got just over a hundy of break in miles on new tires and sandy/melting front range roads. It was a blast and I'm in process of qualifying first opinions and comparisons to my recently sold '06 and my wife's '11.

Still, can't help to notice, even after a short ride:
a) soft and smooth clutch. Lacks the old "sweet spot" from the dry clutch but that's not a bad thing. On low speed turns in dirt you can't "tickle" the cam effect cuz it's not there...it's completely progressive. I'll get used to that (like any other wet clutch) but the benefit shows up when you are at speed; blip the lever, drop a gear, and roll on.... well, you know- or you'll find out.
b) Throttle, I just learned all my previous muscle memories for trail braking, low speed modulating, and unweighting the front will need some adjusting. X2 for the other mapping (or X5?) as it does make a difference. Fly by wire + different clutch x 5 different (response) maps = something new to learn if you have a few miles on a gs. Personally I'm looking forward to mastering it.
c) Clutch again. It does seem to slip! Granted I was hyper sensitive to traction with cold sandy roads on new tires but even with a couple gear changes and clutch drop I didn't notice the "chirp, chirp" of a slowing rear end. Too soon to tell but optimistic.
d) Gear shift lever might be slightly different (location/reference) than previous models? Or it's just me... missed a few shifts that caught me off guard. Again, this chalks up to muscle memory/habits. Oh yea, new pegs on order- disregard.
e) Increased horses noticeable. Obvious I know, but it's especially noticeable in that open road mid range (if you're comparing previous models) where confidence soars. Roll on from 45 mph to an angry highway speed and you'll see- there's a difference.
f) Rear brake. I love the rear brake and realize that's probably odd for a bmw owner. Well, it's still there and now it's easier to find. KUDOs to bmw for making this easier to use. BTW, this is still without the enduro pro plug. Whew.
g) Tires. Tourance next. Too soon to tell but I wouldn't doubt they're better road tires but they may not be as confidence inspiring on non paved roads. Ok, this isn't fair but they don't seem as suited for mud or other moderate traction graded surfaces. Not fair- Needs to be a side by side comparo but today it seemed like more flaot less traction than slice and dig... this on a wet to 2" dirt road.
h) ALL the electronics. I've gotten familiar with the suspension benefits and use from my wife's '11. The mapping buttons confused me in reading (can only be engaged without engine pull/drag, stand still, etc.?) but after riding less than 50 miles I see how it works and bmw engineers had a vision. "Cuing" up the map you want when you want is easy and only a very, very, slight in normal shifting allows it to engage. Non clutch upshifting won't engage but no matter how fast I pulled the clutch in fully for a shift allowed the new map to engage. I quickly learned that this feature is much more usable than I thought it would be. Cool.
h) More to come from all of us but my initial thoughts after a short feel: awesome. A familiar friend that has not only some interesting new updates which, as I can get familiar with, equates to even more fun but also a smart addition of features with use in mind. Plus, previous benefits of the GS have not been compromised. Weaknesses will surface (maybe vibration at certain rpms?) but these will be relative to the benefits.

Well, that's my 1 and only chance at first impressions. I know these will blossom into both more opinions and verified thoughts but for now that's it. FWIW- I'm biased. since 06 have been biased by the concept (having come from a history of sport and dirt performance bikes) and I ordered this bike sight unseen; a leap of faith I was comfortable with.

PS- Can you adjust your gps mount? Mine doesn't seem to block my tach (I'm 6' with a lot of torso) when sitting. Kickstand- no issues. Standing is much easier/more confortable. Waiting for additions to include engine guard, led driving lights, wider pegs, rally seat, TT panniers, wife approval.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:16 PM   #7559
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After deposit, wait, delay, weather, etc. picked up the white fang (nick name compliments of my wife who has a triple black) today at noon.
Congratulations! Your bike looked great in person. It looks like there's still a long wait ahead for me though.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:47 PM   #7560
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Wicked wait

sorry boulder... i thought i heard the guys say there were more coming this/next week?
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