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Old 04-04-2013, 08:49 PM   #8071
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Yes but have you tested and compared the two models THROUGH THE CANYONS? Because else you shouldn't reply.
The new bike is a dog through the canyons. Probably the worst bike to ever roll down tarmac when it comes to canyons. When you reach the river at the bottom of the canyon the damn bike sinks like a stone. BMW certainly should have addressed this like honda did with the airbag on the goldwing. If you haven't ridden your bike onto a raft into the Grand Canyon please do not respond to this post.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:38 PM   #8072
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Picked up panniers today at TT. Ill post pictures after the install.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:58 PM   #8073
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The new bike is a dog through the canyons. Probably the worst bike to ever roll down tarmac when it comes to canyons. When you reach the river at the bottom of the canyon the damn bike sinks like a stone. BMW certainly should have addressed this like honda did with the airbag on the goldwing. If you haven't ridden your bike onto a raft into the Grand Canyon please do not respond to this post.
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:14 PM   #8074
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I have still not been able to find any available knobby tires for the new 1200GS LC. For many years I have purchased my tires from these people: www.mynetmoto.com but they are not able to deliver the new Metzeler Karoo 3 knobbies until July 1st.





I wonder if anybody (at least here in Europe) have been able to find and purchase knobby tires for their new 1200GS LC. Suggestions are more than welcome. I can't imagine that non of you are going to take your new 1200GS LC off-road within the next few months.

Have you found available knobbies for the new 1200GS LC then info will be appreciated. Any available knobbies not only the Metzeler Karoo 3.

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Max , looks like those are available

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-R-1200...item4d0b0d6eda
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:18 PM   #8075
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I'm glad the gold brake calipers didn't make it into production.
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:30 PM   #8076
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Aprilia did this App for the Caponord, I like it, reading out stuff and being able to take it with you...

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Old 04-05-2013, 12:03 AM   #8077
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Yet another 1200GS LC video. No review, just riding scenes.



Max :-)
Any idea what the antenna is for (to the left of the cockpit)?

I'm guessing some sort of radio.
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:22 AM   #8078
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Again, to me a super expensive suspension, custom made to weight (and preference), is only valid for people mostly riding in a single "mode" and "mood". Whatever changes, they either need to modify settings OR... they are out of the custom suspension manufacturing specs.
Basically, a super expensive suspension is the one you set and forget, no matter the type of road, otherwise is not super expensive. At most you have to compensate for rear preload and a couple of clicks of dampening if you carry a load.
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:57 AM   #8079
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A few interesting details on the 1200GS LC prototype.

Here is the original photo (source: www.mototribu.com):

There are many other differences between this prototype and the production models that are being send out of the factory now. Clutch fluid container is different. Break caliber color is different and so on.

Max :-)
Well this is what I call a mega review! I stored it to read when I have time.

They seem to have mixed - between known BMW-press pictures - a few that were not released before (!?). Or I've seen so many photos I cannot recall all of them any more. :)

Very cool that the review points to other site reviews too.

Indeed there are quite a few differences with the prototype.
Maybe we should have a "spot the differences" competition. :)

Thanks.

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BTW, I sat on one yesterday again (for more time).
Really familiar feeling. It is an R1200GS. You can't mistake it for something else.
I noticed the yieldings and they look EXACTLY the same as in the (production model) photos. And I mean exactly; read: "That-robot-does-it-like-that" same. I wouldn't worry too much about them.
Quality seems very good actually. My (again: MY) last 2 GSes quality-wise proved fantastic. Where it matters. Where it doesn't yes things could be better.
Screen seemed very small (so it is fantastic how they made it work so effectively), dials also. Everything is ergonomically placed.
I forgot to check the side and main stand "issues" (if I can operate them easily, if any of the two bothers me when retracted). Will do next time. Even if they do have "issues", this is like a 0.0001% importance matter to me.
Feel of the throttle was fantastic (with bike off), same for the two hand levers.
LED looks even cooler from up close. More compact than expected.
Will possibly ride one next Tuesday (the deal is that I WILL, thing is I don't know if I WANT).

Verified that the configuration I need, in Greece, touches 20k euros. I got a quote, estimated arrival if I ordered these days, financing details etc.
I would never make the switch if I didn't plan to get the extras I don't have now (AND the extras I have now ). It wouldn't make sense to me.
Good news is that it IS possible they could buy-back mine, yet I don't know how much etc.
I think (esp. if I don't want a divorce - and I don't) mine will start becoming a reality in 2 years or something. If the planets align properly.
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Old 04-05-2013, 02:13 AM   #8080
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Found the first made in Taiwan sticker ... On some of the wiring leading to the headlight.

I had spotted one of these also at the same time as you, it was the cable from the GPS bracket.

Had my 600 mile service done yesterday (well 860 miles actually) and amongst other things they have re-routed that cable and tied it up with cable ties. It was only because I could no longer see the white 'made in Taiwan' label that I noticed. Are BMW hiding it through shame

Annoyingly they were vague to the point of not knowing what the following changes were for -

2 software updates and another new 'enduro plug'
My guesses are one update for BMW GPS to work with the wheel (I don't know because I only have the zumo 660), the second update something to do with the enduro plug??

Referring to the latter, my bike was built after the first update for the enduro plug error and when I took delivery the plug was supplied. Now they have taken it and given me another. Even more strange, I measured the first one with a multimeter and zero ohms both ways, so it is just a link and no active device in there. The second one? IDENTICAL - explain that one??

All very minor things but thought you guys might be interested.

Having full grade oil in, I briefly tried the Dynamic ride mode. Not really enough clear road on the way home to give it a real fist full but my initial impression was that it didn't really kick in until over 5000 rpm. If you like riding up at the top end of the revs, you'll like it I think. For me, I'm a 'mid range use the torque' type of rider.

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Old 04-05-2013, 02:27 AM   #8081
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basically, a super expensive suspension is the one you set and forget, no matter the type of road, otherwise is not super expensive. At most you have to compensate for rear preload and a couple of clicks of dampening if you carry a load.
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Old 04-05-2013, 03:48 AM   #8082
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Max , looks like those are available

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-R-1200...item4d0b0d6eda
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Any idea what the antenna is for (to the left of the cockpit)?

I'm guessing some sort of radio.
It is not my bike but the antenna might be for a two-way communication system. Helmet to helmet. Doesn't look like an antenna for the GPS and the last time a saw an antenna like this one for a mobile phone was back in 1998 !

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Will possibly ride one next Tuesday (the deal is that I WILL, thing is I don't know if I WANT).
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I think (esp. if I don't want a divorce - and I don't) mine will start becoming a reality in 2 years or something. If the planets align properly.
Tuesday may be the most expensive day in 2013 for you. And guess what! The planets are properly aligned just on Tuesday. Enjoy your test ride. See to that it has the Dynamic ESA because that is the one you want

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Old 04-05-2013, 04:02 AM   #8083
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One more One World vid.



Please, easy on the zooming in and out. I am getting seasick.

Ups, just found one more vid from today.



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Old 04-05-2013, 04:02 AM   #8084
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First Impressions

Thoughts after 130km. Now the bike has 137km on the clock! This was the
first new GS driven out of Procycles Hornsby (I can tell my grand
children that!).

In a word .........Awesome!

Feels more urgent like it wants to get up and go but more torquey as
well i.e. not just high revving road bike ish, still distinctively
GS....with a much better note! And that was riding mainly in RAIN mode -
given it was wet, with new tyres.

Whilst being about the same weight it feel much lighter and more nimble.
This is probably due to the narrower waistline. Feels like it would be
good off road.

New tourance tyres are wider, have a lower profile and wrap around the
wheel more all leading to a lot of surface area / rubber on the road.
This is noticeable. Great for the road. Not sure about off road. Will
let you know.

All the above just makes it faster through the twisties with the same
level of effort.

Third and fourth gear seem to cover a broader range. I never once felt
like I needed to drop to second in the tighter turns which sometimes I
did on the old bike (then say "shoot" that is a bit low - probably poor
riding technique). The gear box is also much smoother.

The bike stands a bit taller particularly in the tail (Diney will have a
nice outlook). This leads to a more comfortable riding position for me
e.g less cramped seat to peg. The seat is also a big improvement, it is
now level on the highest setting and the pillion seat creates a nice
lower back support.

The windscreen is better and the crease in the middle is excellent when
it rains (yes it did, heavily).

Electronics all intuitive and I am still to try the other riding modes
(Road, Dynamic & Enduro). Electronic cruise control is excellent -
remember when you first got it for your car - sames! Old school
indicators are a bit annoying after retraining the brain. A blank GPS
bracket above the main instruments crys out for the GPS, which can be
controlled by the handlebar "mouse", but at $1600 is a touch up given it
is a Garman 660 that retails for $530. Maybe someone will come up with a
"cheat" for that!

Brushed Aluminium wire wheels look trick and the overall stance of the
bike is menacing with an immaculate finish (I'm thinking BMW M series).
LED light is sweet but have not tried in in the dark yet and will still
probably miss the old flood lights (more stuff to buy). Rear view
mirrors are 21st century Vs current ones.

Overall exceeded my expectations. You ride one you will want one!



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Old 04-05-2013, 04:05 AM   #8085
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Tuesday may be the most expensive day in 2013 for you. And guess what! The planets are properly aligned just on Tuesday. Enjoy your test ride. See to that it has the Dynamic ESA because that is the one you want
Indeed this is the one I want. I already said, without the extras I don't see much of a point to make such a move (to replace a bike - already fantastic bike - with its successor). This is my mentality.
Their demo is full-spec anyway.
That said, I don't see it happening yet. I live in Greece. I am sure you know what is going on here.
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