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Old 06-05-2013, 09:47 AM   #9316
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Ok, any discussion of BMW's and special batteries from my part was limited to CARS. If there is any special requirements for the GSW, I'm unaware of it. I'd call you're local dealer/service tech and ask.

Sorry if I have confused some people here.
If BMW is consistent, it's only a matter of time. For the motorcycles follow the cars with electronics.
BUT...reminds me of that T shirt,

"I didn't know BMW made cars until I passed one..."
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:18 AM   #9317
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If BMW is consistent, it's only a matter of time. For the motorcycles follow the cars with electronics.
BUT...reminds me of that T shirt,

"I didn't know BMW made cars until I passed one..."
I hope not. Motorcycle people and cagers are fundamentally different. Motorcyclist tend to do more of their own maintenance than the cagers.

I need that tee-shirt.
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Old 06-05-2013, 01:11 PM   #9318
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I hope not. Motorcycle people and cagers are fundamentally different. Motorcyclist tend to do more of their own maintenance than the cagers.

I need that tee-shirt.
It's a great shirt. I bought several. BMWNA sold them at one time to the dealers.

For example, I think the 7 series cars had a "can buss" back in the 1990's.
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:03 PM   #9319
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I got a problem :(

since yesterday... the temperature is oscillating within a ~5 C range.. from ~78-83... with ~10 sec period, even under cruise control.

When I warm up the engine to 100C, I mean until the fan turns on... THE BIKE KEEPS THE TEMPERATURE FOR SEVERAL MINUTES AS USUAL (~80 deg C).

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Today I went to the dealer... got new firmware, but the problem persists.

I have over 8000kms.
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:09 PM   #9320
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I got a problem :(

since yesterday... the temperature is oscillating within a ~5 C range.. from ~78-83... with ~10 sec period, even under cruise control.

When I warm up the engine to 100C, I mean until the fan turns on... THE BIKE KEEPS THE TEMPERATURE FOR SEVERAL MINUTES AS USUAL (~80 deg C).

...

Today I went to the dealer... got new firmware, but the problem persists.

I have over 8000kms.
1) Where is the "problem"?
2) Why you warm up the engine????????
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:15 PM   #9321
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1) Where is the "problem"?
2) Why you warm up the engine????????
the problem is that "oscillation"... it's something new. The bike used to keep the temp ~80-83 deg. C WITHOUT oscillation.

Imagine.. the bike is doing that about six times every minute.

That's imho NOT NORMAL.

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to warm up the engine is the only trick how to get rid of that up-down cycle, at least for few minutes.
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:42 PM   #9322
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the problem is that "oscillation"... it's something new. The bike used to keep the temp ~80-83 deg. C WITHOUT oscillation.

Imagine.. the bike is doing that about six times every minute.

That's imho NOT NORMAL.

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to warm up the engine is the only trick how to get rid of that up-down cycle, at least for few minutes.
I'm clearly not understanding the problem -- the temp is varying within about a five degree range -- what is the abnormal part?
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:55 PM   #9323
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I'm clearly not understanding the problem -- the temp is varying within about a five degree range -- what is the abnormal part?
the pattern... it's nonstop getting high and down repeatedly.

I mean.. it goes up for ~10 secs (to 83 deg C), then down to 78.. and the whole process repeats.

doesnt matter much HOW are you riding and the surrounding temperature (tested at 10 and 20 deg C).
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Old 06-05-2013, 04:05 PM   #9324
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the pattern... it's nonstop getting high and down repeatedly.

I mean.. it goes up for ~10 secs (to 83 deg C), then down to 78.. and the whole process repeats.

doesnt matter much HOW are you riding and the surrounding temperature (tested at 10 and 20 deg C).
Sounds like a thermostat cycling?
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Old 06-05-2013, 04:25 PM   #9325
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the pattern... it's nonstop getting high and down repeatedly.

I mean.. it goes up for ~10 secs (to 83 deg C), then down to 78.. and the whole process repeats.

doesnt matter much HOW are you riding and the surrounding temperature (tested at 10 and 20 deg C).
So the thermostat is working.
I still don't see the problem.
This is LIQUID COOLED with a fan.
It's not overheating, it's not going too low.
So?


The dealer finds it weird?
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Old 06-05-2013, 04:26 PM   #9326
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Sounds like a thermostat cycling?
I do know what it is at the moment... also... it occurred after a 2h ride in a heavy rain..
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Old 06-05-2013, 04:28 PM   #9327
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So the thermostat is working.
I still don't see the problem.
This is LIQUID COOLED with a fan.
It's not overheating, it's not going too low.
So?


The dealer finds it weird?
you dont consider weird that the bike suddenly cannot keep a +- steady temperature?
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Old 06-05-2013, 04:39 PM   #9328
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My 2 cents, after rain , no other obvious issues, it will be an electrical fault, perhaps the mainboard for the dash who knows. No big deal I would assume.
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Old 06-05-2013, 04:52 PM   #9329
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I do know what it is at the moment... also... it occurred after a 2h ride in a heavy rain..
I think its weird. I'm willing to bet its an electrical problem with the gauge than a engine problem. Mind you, I'm not willing to bet much, but its strange. Does it always cycle between those exact numbers?

You said this all started after a 2 hour ride in heavy rain?

Its weird and you need to get to the bottom of it. The best way to do that is to ride on a long trip to a place where your phone won't work, they speak a different language, and there are no BMW dealers. If this is a real problem, the bike will break down in the worst possible place.
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Old 06-05-2013, 08:23 PM   #9330
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You worry too much the temperature range is normal.
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