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Old 07-16-2013, 03:46 PM   #10006
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So... why I'm not jumping.
First... I would like to have a complete understanding of the bike before I commit to it for the next 5 to 7 years.
Second... the MSRP on this bike will be more than twice what I paid for my current bike.
Third... First production run products tend to have minor issues that are corrected in later production runs.
Forth... I have never owned a BMW, I know the brand has a very strong following of loyalest, but I also know that quality control issues have dogged many of the brands "Flag Ship" models.

So it's hard for me to convince myself to abounded a perfectly capable bike so that I may invest twice the money on a first run bike from a brand with known quality issues for a fantasy of getting out of the city and searching for Adventure. Plus - I think the addition of a steering dampener as standard equipment is a major modification to the GS Line... and very telling.

That and my wife isn't on-board with the idea... yet.
I find it interesting when I am at the service centre for my European car and am listerning to the first time owners having a whinge becase the indicator switch is on the wrong side and for the price of entry it should have been perfect for them? I buy Euro for the engineering and design, not with any expectation it wil be perfect. I buy German engineering becuase it seems to be better than Austrian or Italian.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:06 PM   #10007
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I had the same problem for a long time on my Harley and thought it was the vibration from the bike.

Then an (even) older biker told me to tuck my elbows in toward my body, and straighten my wrists, then relax them. This should increase blood flow to your hands and fingers and stop the tingles.

Works for me.
Rox risers may help. They did for me.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:30 PM   #10008
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The Karoo 3 is on backorder where I live and the TKC-80 is expected to be seen first. Dunno about the Wild though. I could also just use Heidenaus but I am one of the Heidi doubters.
Why not order online then. I saw them both on Revzilla & I am sure there must be many other US sites that probably offer them. Just an idea.

Can't get them in OZ at all yet, none have reached our shores yet.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:48 PM   #10009
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The GS can do everything the RT can, but its not the other way around.
It can also be argued that the RT is far better at LD superslab and, depending on how big the rider's stones are, can still go offroad...

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Old 07-16-2013, 06:26 PM   #10010
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It can also be argued that the RT is far better at LD superslab and, depending on how big the rider's stones are, can still go offroad...

Sure, I've taken the RT off road. It feels like the bike is taking a beating with all the plastic rattling around. Plus, if it goes down, it's going to costs hundreds of dollars to fix it. No thanks!
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:27 PM   #10011
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Put a deposit on an inbound GSW today. Now to wait 2-3 weeks!! Ugh!! It's one of the most well designed bikes I've ever ridden. Amazing.
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:00 PM   #10012
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>Why not order online then. I saw them both on Revzilla & I am sure there must be many other US sites that probably offer them. Just an idea.<

The front TKC-80 120/70 R 19 is not in stock at Revzilla. I also checked A&S Cycles, Sierra BMW and GOAZ and no one has it yet.

I am familiar with running TKC-80s on my bikes and love them (except for the mileage, of course). What I wondered about is whether the 110 /80 R19 that is available would be a problem on the highway on the '13 R12GSW. Seems that it will be okay off pavement even though it is not exactly the right size but I gotta do a lot of highway with a loaded bike to get to the off pavement part. Maybe I should just ride the Anakee lll's and not overthink this.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:14 PM   #10013
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>Why not order online then. I saw them both on Revzilla & I am sure there must be many other US sites that probably offer them. Just an idea.<

The front TKC-80 120/70 R 19 is not in stock at Revzilla. I also checked A&S Cycles, Sierra BMW and GOAZ and no one has it yet.

I am familiar with running TKC-80s on my bikes and love them (except for the mileage, of course). What I wondered about is whether the 110 /80 R19 that is available would be a problem on the highway on the '13 R12GSW. Seems that it will be okay off pavement even though it is not exactly the right size but I gotta do a lot of highway with a loaded bike to get to the off pavement part. Maybe I should just ride the Anakee lll's and not overthink this.
They had the karoo 3s last time I looked. Probably a better option by the sound of them if your doing a lot of blacktop. I really liked the karoo T's on my f800gs.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:27 PM   #10014
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Yep. Karoo 3's are there. My mistake -- gonna order them.
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:06 PM   #10015
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My wife took a GS out for a long demo ride today. She came back with a big smile on her face! She was quite impressed with how light it felt compared to her Bandit. She loved the brakes, the easy clutch pull, and the handling. Unfortunately, her long ride meant there was only time for me to take a short spin. The most surprising thing for me is how much I liked the engine. I loved the sound and was quite pleased with the power. The engine had just the right blend of character and refinement. After riding the GS, it's going to be hard for me to go back to the "whirly" sound of my FJR.

I can tell this thing is a wheelie machine. I accidentally got the front end up a bit, so I held back a little after that. Does the GS have wheelie control? I forgot to ask the salesman when I got back.

I'll need to take another demo ride, but I have a feeling a GS is in my future.
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:16 PM   #10016
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I can tell this thing is a wheelie machine. I accidentally got the front end up a bit, so I held back a little after that. Does the GS have wheelie control? I forgot to ask the salesman when I got back.
Traction control should do the trick.
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:22 AM   #10017
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As an Englishman i never thought i'd ask this question - but how is the GSW holding up in the heat?

(We are 3 weeks into what passes as a heatwave here BTW).
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:45 AM   #10018
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As an Englishman i never thought i'd ask this question - but how is the GSW holding up in the heat?

(We are 3 weeks into what passes as a heatwave here BTW).
Been cracking up reading the DM about this "heatwave." Temps hit 90, panic ensues.
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:52 AM   #10019
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That is what passes for news here. "Pisses down for 4 months straight" isn't a headline here.

Upside - lots of good bike time.

Downside - Fat women with sunburn.

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Old 07-18-2013, 06:00 AM   #10020
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No problems with heat so far, I have had it out in temps that are over 100.
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