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Old 07-19-2013, 08:15 PM   #10036
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Lol, the lengths some BMW owners will go to justify their bike's "character." Fwiw, my Harley doesn't clunk, or need a "proper technique" to shift smoothly.
You still hanging out on BMW threads acting like you are superior?

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Old 07-19-2013, 10:27 PM   #10037
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You still hanging out on BMW threads acting like you are superior?

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Nah, I don't want to tread on your turf.

Just putting the Kool-Aid slurper perspective in perspective. As a BMW owner myself, I'm sometimes amazed at the lengths my fellow brethren will go to avoid acknowledging that their bikes may have flaws.
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Old 07-20-2013, 05:51 AM   #10038
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Lol, the lengths some BMW owners will go to justify their bike's "character." Fwiw, my Harley doesn't clunk, or need a "proper technique" to shift smoothly.
Really not going to any great length there. Preloading the shifter has been commonly recognized as a "proper" technique for shifting for decades. Every bike I've ever owned shifted much smoother when shifted using this technique. Search forums for just about any bike brand and you will probably find a "clunky shifting" thread with the same response, preload the shifter. Perhaps you have just never been enlightened and what may seem smooth to you on your Harley, may seem like a clunky box of rocks to someone else. Lol, the lengths some Harley owners will go to......
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Old 07-20-2013, 08:27 AM   #10039
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Really not going to any great length there. Preloading the shifter has been commonly recognized as a "proper" technique for shifting for decades. Every bike I've ever owned shifted much smoother when shifted using this technique. Search forums for just about any bike brand and you will probably find a "clunky shifting" thread with the same response, preload the shifter. Perhaps you have just never been enlightened and what may seem smooth to you on your Harley, may seem like a clunky box of rocks to someone else. Lol, the lengths some Harley owners will go to......
I've only owned two Harleys out of about 50 bikes including six BMWs. The beemers were always the clunkiest and my Road King snicks so smoothly into first that I don't even hear it. But now you've got me all curious, will try preloading my Dakar's shifter on my ride home tonight and see if that helps....
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:06 AM   #10040
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I have found the my bike can shift poorly or great depending on my technique. The fact that it can shift great at one time and poorly the next makes me realize it is not the bike but my technique. I'm not saying the same for you; perhaps you got a poor shifting bike. Just don't generalize about either BMW or them all because my bike shifts great when done properly.

Same here. The bike is not likely to adapt to the shifting technique of the owner. It should be the other way around. I can make my LC shift poorly when being sloppy, but I don't have to since it is easy to adapt.
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:39 AM   #10041
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Same here. The bike is not likely to adapt to the shifting technique of the owner. It should be the other way around. I can make my LC shift poorly when being sloppy, but I don't have to since it is easy to adapt.
Can you elaborate on the technique you think the LC GS requires?
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:45 AM   #10042
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I guess it's all relative. I thought the transmission on the LC demo i had was positive compared to my old Multistrada. Having a rear brake that worked was novel too..
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:01 AM   #10043
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can you elaborate on the technique you think the lc gs requires?
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:58 AM   #10044
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+2. What is this technique they speak of?
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:21 PM   #10045
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It's very simple. You start shifting in the way the bike requires. Meaning you start with the basics, pulling the clutch in time (and not half way, but fully), and measuring the optimal time to release in the optimal speed. It is trial and error at first, so it should take about 30 minutes to get used to it. You have to go with your feeling and learn to know your bike. This is my 6th bmw since 2006, and I had not troubles shifting at all with the last four. The F800ST got a model wide, factory initiated, modification for the clutch, and after that also no problems shifting. Watch, learn, adapt.
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Old 07-20-2013, 04:41 PM   #10046
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Does anyone here know what the deal is with BMW tank bags and panniers? The kid grabbed an LC in March and the dealer still can't say when they will get bags for it and is suggesting they may not get any at all this year. Bad dealer, incredible demand, strikes, what?? Any/all thoughts/info appreciated!
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:04 PM   #10047
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Does anyone here know what the deal is with BMW tank bags and panniers? The kid grabbed an LC in March and the dealer still can't say when they will get bags for it and is suggesting they may not get any at all this year. Bad dealer, incredible demand, strikes, what?? Any/all thoughts/info appreciated!
I don't know, just a thought..

A couple of months ago I saw a thread/post showing a vario case with a defect near a mounting point.
Some sort of stress fracture at a load bearing area.
Maybe somebody will linky.
Don't remember ever seeing such an issue with the prior version.
Maybe that's the delay... quality control with a supplier/manufacturer or design.

Or, could be sheer volume of orders...
Don't know the numbers but, the bike seems to be pretty popular.
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:09 PM   #10048
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Does anyone here know what the deal is with BMW tank bags and panniers? The kid grabbed an LC in March and the dealer still can't say when they will get bags for it and is suggesting they may not get any at all this year. Bad dealer, incredible demand, strikes, what?? Any/all thoughts/info appreciated!
I just picked up a GS tank bag on Tuesday. They just came in dealer was Max's in NH. They had both small & large.
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:47 PM   #10049
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Why would you want them in the first place? Get some real bags- you'll be
Much happier in the long run.
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:58 PM   #10050
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I just picked up a GS tank bag on Tuesday. They just came in dealer was Max's in NH. They had both small & large.
Thanks, I will pass that on to the kid.

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Why would you want them in the first place? Get some real bags- you'll be
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It's the kid, not me, who wants the bags and I'd be happy to pass on what you think are real bags if you'd be so kind as to tell us what those are.
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