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Old 07-29-2013, 04:48 AM   #10111
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Nope, it was the other side. The bars have some scratches now! Annoyingly, the bottom of the cylinder head took some scratches, so I'll either get another, or get this one painted. I thought the bars would protect the whole head, but obviously not.
It's retro, back in the 70's I didn't know any BMWs that didn't have a flat spot worn on the bottom edge of the cylinder covers...
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:07 AM   #10112
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Advice needed dudes. I have a GSW on order at a dealer over an hour away from me. It's due in the within the next two weeks. Another dealer less than than 2 miles from my house has the same bike with spoke wheels, on the floor. With the accessories etc, his price is very comparable - so I guess my question is are the spoke wheels worth it? I never even considered it as an option really. Will the spoked wheels add to the resale of the bike? At least if I go with the local bike, I don't have to ride all the way up to the other dealer if there's an issue.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:34 AM   #10113
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The warranty is honored at any dealer, but of course the other dealer may snarl at you if you cancel. I would go for the local dealer, We have the spokes and like the look and so forth very well. They are also more forgiving over curbs :) and bumps as far as the rim surviving.
I think the spokes are a plus.
I heard that the Cal Hwy Patrol insisted on spokes for the reason of jumping curbs, etc. on their RTs, etc.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:39 AM   #10114
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Advice needed dudes. I have a GSW on order at a dealer over an hour away from me. It's due in the within the next two weeks. Another dealer less than than 2 miles from my house has the same bike with spoke wheels, on the floor. With the accessories etc, his price is very comparable - so I guess my question is are the spoke wheels worth it? I never even considered it as an option really. Will the spoked wheels add to the resale of the bike? At least if I go with the local bike, I don't have to ride all the way up to the other dealer if there's an issue.
Why did you buy the bike at the dealer far away?

I got the spoked rims, they are more prone to get vibrations. Nothing to bad however. On my current GS I have spokes. If I change in 2 years I will probably go for the alloys. Nothing wrong with the spokes, but ease of use with the normal alloys gives it an edge.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:40 AM   #10115
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Advice needed dudes. I have a GSW on order at a dealer over an hour away from me. It's due in the within the next two weeks. Another dealer less than than 2 miles from my house has the same bike with spoke wheels, on the floor. With the accessories etc, his price is very comparable - so I guess my question is are the spoke wheels worth it? I never even considered it as an option really. Will the spoked wheels add to the resale of the bike? At least if I go with the local bike, I don't have to ride all the way up to the other dealer if there's an issue.
The spoke wheels are a good deal that adds to the resale value of the bike and are generally more durable if you ever plan to take the bike offroad. Dealing with the local dealer would be better if they have same reputation as the remote dealer, assuming there is no penalty for cancelling your order.

Cons: the spokes are harder to clean than the cast wheels, and the new cast wheels are very good looking (though opinions vary, and you'll be much sadder the first time you scratch a cast rim either on the road or changing a tire). You'll need to decide which you like better.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:04 AM   #10116
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Thanks guys. Looks like I will go with the spokes. I had put a deposit on a bike that the other dealer had coming in anyway, so there shouldn't be any issue getting it back - it was simply to hold the bike for me. I've bought 3 bikes from them in the past, so they've had a fair share of my business. I've used them since the local guy sucked these past few years, but they have made some changes recently and have really improved, so I'm willing to give them another shot.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:25 AM   #10117
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Actually, the CHP insisted that the spoke wheels be replace with cast wheels. Something about tire sizes and stability if I recall correctly. But they bent a lot of wheels as a result.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:31 AM   #10118
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The TT bars protect it well enough. Also tested it.
I'm thinking of either selling the BMW bars, and getting the Touratech ones, or ditching bars altogether and just getting cylinder head protectors. I'm a bit miffed that the head got scratched, with bars fitted.

What are the TT ones like? Do they give more coverage? Any downsides to just having cylinder guards, if I'm mainly riding on road?
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:40 AM   #10119
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I'm thinking of either selling the BMW bars, and getting the Touratech ones, or ditching bars altogether and just getting cylinder head protectors. I'm a bit miffed that the head got scratched, with bars fitted.

What are the TT ones like? Do they give more coverage? Any downsides to just having cylinder guards, if I'm mainly riding on road?
TT bars give more coverage. Before I had my crashbars I have a little fall (mud on the road). I had the TT cilinderheadprotection on it and it was totally bent and distroyed. The cilinderhead showed some minor marks. So they did rather well as a sacrificial part. Speed was around 20mph.

The photo doesn't do the bike justice, but it gives you an idea.


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Old 07-29-2013, 07:46 AM   #10120
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I'm thinking of either selling the BMW bars, and getting the Touratech ones, or ditching bars altogether and just getting cylinder head protectors. I'm a bit miffed that the head got scratched, with bars fitted.

What are the TT ones like? Do they give more coverage? Any downsides to just having cylinder guards, if I'm mainly riding on road?
Not crazy about the looks myself, but TT does claim they totally protect the cylinder heads. That doesn't explain why they also have the CH protectors bolted on in this pic...



My feeling is that head protectors would protect against minor drops pretty well, but engine guards would provide significantly better protection if the bike was crashed hard.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:33 AM   #10121
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Although pissed, he/we politely left without making a stink since we were informed that it was the manager who nixed the sale. We will find another solution and not bother them again with our business. Simply put, we wasted enough time with Max BMW and will not repeat the mistake. It was not a total loss as we had a great ride up and back in beautiful weather.
I am guessing you are somewhere in Southern New Hamshire, Massachusetts, or Connceticut. Why not ride over to our shop (Twisted Throttle) and see our 2013 R1200GS?

We are in Exeter, RI. Our warehouse is on-site and anything we have for the R12; or any other bike, we can install in our service center. We have several tankbags that fit the wet head and they all use the Bags-Connection Quick Lock System.

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Old 07-29-2013, 10:18 AM   #10122
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Advice needed dudes. I have a GSW on order at a dealer over an hour away from me. It's due in the within the next two weeks. Another dealer less than than 2 miles from my house has the same bike with spoke wheels, on the floor. With the accessories etc, his price is very comparable - so I guess my question is are the spoke wheels worth it? I never even considered it as an option really. Will the spoked wheels add to the resale of the bike? At least if I go with the local bike, I don't have to ride all the way up to the other dealer if there's an issue.
If I were you I would certainly go with the wire wheels as they can take quite a beating ! In Brazil bikes with wire wheels are more valued and also easier to sell.

However, I would certainly wait a little longer as in August BMW starts manufacturing 2014 models that will have a steering damper. It will certainly be more valuable than a 2013 model !

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Old 07-29-2013, 11:03 AM   #10123
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My feeling is that head protectors would protect against minor drops pretty well, but engine guards would provide significantly better protection if the bike was crashed hard.
But in a hard crash, the insurance company would get involved, ad repair/ replace everything. I wonder whether in a small car park drop, the head guards would not touch the cylinders?
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:29 AM   #10124
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I am guessing you are somewhere in Southern New Hamshire, Massachusetts, or Connceticut. Why not ride over to our shop (Twisted Throttle) and see our 2013 R1200GS?

We are in Exeter, RI. Our warehouse is on-site and anything we have for the R12; or any other bike, we can install in our service center. We have several tankbags that fit the wet head and they all use the Bags-Connection Quick Lock System.

Listed in size or from largest to smallest they are:
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We greatly appreciate your response. I will pass this one to the SIL and the chances are good we will be down as we are about an hour away and he has a healthy budget for this bike.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:28 PM   #10125
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But in a hard crash, the insurance company would get involved, ad repair/ replace everything. I wonder whether in a small car park drop, the head guards would not touch the cylinders?
I'm thinking more along the lines of the engine guards providing enough protection that you can ride the bike home after binning it versus having to call a tow truck. I've experienced or seen this enough times that I always install engine guards when possible.

Tough question about the head guards, depends on what's behind them (hard rubber padding is good) and how hard it hits. I had the OEMs on my R1100RT and they did save the cylinder head from damage when a car banged into it while suddenly swinging into my lane. Put a nice crease along the car's side...
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