THE BIGWHEEL THREAD!!! Yamaha BW350, BW200 - Page 54

Cliff h · 01-02-2013, 10:28 PM

kobayashi-maru:

I did some searching on youtube of the Ecorider230D. I am not sure which videos are yours as you didn't include links. I am intrigued by your machine. The questions about it abound:

1.) With a diesel engine, are there glow plugs, or a kick starter (hopefully with compression release), will it run on a fine German beer, or bio-diesel?

2.) The clip of the Ecorider230D in the snow has turn signals, is it road legal?

3.) Is it one or two wheel drive?

4.) How difficult is it to obtain parts for on German ebay, and are the parts prices artificially inflated like they are for the BW in America?

5.) Does your bike get more respect in Germany than the BW does in America?

6.) Are females as repulsed by your bike as much as they are by the BW?

7.) Do your Lederhosen get caught up in the chain drive?

Auf Wiedersehen,
Cliff.

kobayashi-maru · 01-03-2013, 10:40 AM

Hi Cliff,

THX for your interest.
Well, this scottish origin has a rope and an e-starter, contains a HATZ 232cc Multi Fuel 1 piston Diesel engine with a glow plug ( no candle

), semi- automatic belt transmission based on Woodward ( not DAF ), RW chain drive. For the rest i fire it up with standart Diesel Fuel, or, if not available around, with the cheapest salade oil from a discounter. During low Temp adding floatagents.
The one i´ve got a couple of years ago was fully Road legal equipped ( see clip ), but yet i do not have the registration. Try to get it thru with both YBW´s later this year.
Parts are easier to organize here in Europe. There where sold to Sweden aswell as to France and Switzerland. Guess to other countries as well. I do not need any parts because mine was out-of-the-box. So i just added the center stand, rear rack and hitch when i unpacked it.
Yup, females ?? That´s a good one. My home village is in an agricultural region close to the former DCL ( east-germany ). Farm Girls ( if they are left ) like it, because it´s useful off road to check the cows or anything else. So, it depends...
But usually people are very interested, even old school friends working for the cops or fed´s like to have a ride on it, because it´s so relaxed. Well, with a max of 38-40 km/h it´s more drifting then riding. I love it.
Maybe for the trip to Scandinavia i´ll swap the rear sprocket to speed her up a bit.

The clip in Winter you already mentioned.
Others i´ll do by PM.
All clips where presented by a friend and where produced by
Qwait Gwanskaya Productions from Ushhorod / Ukraina.

Oh, we do not wear Lederhosen or Krachlederne, the Folks down in Bavaria and Austria do.
But they are foreigners anyway, Prost, Salve, Cheers !!!

Enjoy.

Have a good one.

/ KoMa

Röhrich · 01-03-2013, 02:22 PM

Goodevening,

Here are some pictures of my Bw200 and Bw350 projects. I also have a question: ( picture with the back of the aircleaner ) Does that cover for the battery really exists? I have never seen this part in real, not even in the internet.

Regards,

Röhrich

Mr. BigWheel · 01-03-2013, 10:56 PM

Tire Clearance Photos!!! Just what everyone has been waiting for!

25x12-9 (It is actually a Mud Buster, NOT a Duro HF243):

There is about 20mm of clearance at the shock mount point:

30mm at the outside of the tread:

This is how much wear there is on the chain:

I hope some of this helps. It sure used enough bandwidth.

Regards,

Mr. BigWheel

jaubuchon · 01-05-2013, 05:46 PM

The BM200 as I like to call it is coming along nicely, wiring is ready to put in, body and frame are ready for paint, the motor is to bare magnesium, following the bigwheel spirit it has some big ol wide wheels in the back, pictures soon. Got a carb float bowl gasket( the place in town sells all of the parts for a bigwheel) Trying to decide on color, im thinkin motor chevy orange, and the mower either black, plum crazy, red, or shelby blue.

jaubuchon · 01-05-2013, 08:07 PM

Since Bigwheels are out of my price range I am lookin for a 3 wheeler, 85 or 6 i gotta at least have something weird, nothin is weirder than the lawnmower, but just something different from the jr50 the blaster and the rm125, and km125, and the camaro

Röhrich · 01-06-2013, 11:23 AM

Goodevening,

I have a problem.
When I powdercoated my rear swingarm, i broke the plastic bushings because I thought they would melt just like they from my Rv90. They were extremely damaged and broken. But now I need new ones, but I don´t know where I can get them

. Is there someone who knowes where I can get those plastic bushings?

Regards,

Röhrich

Mr. BigWheel · 01-06-2013, 10:40 PM

jaubuchon,

Those of us with limited imaginations need photos. Where are the pictures? You are just torturing us without them. A BW powered mower? Who wouldn't want one? Show us the money!!!!

Röhrich,

http://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/oem...8fe9/swing-arm

Are you referring to part #2 on the BW350 diagram?

http://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/oem...8fc5/swing-arm

It is also #2 on the 200 swing arm diagram.

If so, those parts have been discontinued for a long time and are scarce. They are usually sold with a used swing arm.

We really need to do something to reproduce this part,. I'm going to go outside to turn on the Bat Light to let Shercoman know that he is needed.

Regards,

Mr. BigWheel

Mr. BigWheel · 01-06-2013, 10:44 PM

From earlier tonight: Cretaceous Cliff backing it in at the Knik Glacier

Röhrich · 01-07-2013, 04:26 AM

Yes, its part number 2 for the BW200.
Is there another motorcycle with that part?

Regards,

Röhrich

hillbilly enduro · 01-07-2013, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Röhrich

Yes, its part number 2 for the BW200.
Is there another motorcycle with that part?

Regards,

Röhrich

Isn't that just a plastic bushing with a collar in one end?
If so just go to a machine shop and pay a few euros "for the cake box" as we say in denmark.

I'm tempted to offering making parts for the BW's, but it probably would be a bit expensive when shipping is added to the price. Someone on your side of the big garden pond must be able to make these discontinued parts at a fair price...
eg. that bushing could be made pretty cheap, if I'm not missing something. (it looks simple on the parts fiche)

kobayashi-maru · 01-07-2013, 12:04 PM

Hej Hillbilly,

Röhrich and i are in the low-lands and V-Tyskland, so just a few clicks away.
For the BW200ES we could need some bushings. What plastics you´re using ?

Hilsen,

/ KoMa

jaubuchon · 01-07-2013, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. BigWheel

jaubuchon,

Those of us with limited imaginations need photos. Where are the pictures? You are just torturing us without them. A BW powered mower? Who wouldn't want one? Show us the money!!!!

Röhrich,

http://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/oem...8fe9/swing-arm

Are you referring to part #2 on the BW350 diagram?

http://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/oem...8fc5/swing-arm

It is also #2 on the 200 swing arm diagram.

If so, those parts have been discontinued for a long time and are scarce. They are usually sold with a used swing arm.

We really need to do something to reproduce this part,. I'm going to go outside to turn on the Bat Light to let Shercoman know that he is needed.

Regards,

Mr. BigWheel

well if it is just a bushing, I could reproduce mine, my dad has a buddy who makes nothing but bushings

jaubuchon · 01-07-2013, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. BigWheel

jaubuchon,

Those of us with limited imaginations need photos. Where are the pictures? You are just torturing us without them. A BW powered mower? Who wouldn't want one? Show us the money!!!!

Röhrich,

http://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/oem...8fe9/swing-arm

Are you referring to part #2 on the BW350 diagram?

http://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/oem...8fc5/swing-arm

It is also #2 on the 200 swing arm diagram.

If so, those parts have been discontinued for a long time and are scarce. They are usually sold with a used swing arm.

We really need to do something to reproduce this part,. I'm going to go outside to turn on the Bat Light to let Shercoman know that he is needed.

Regards,

Mr. BigWheel

Pictures soon, gotta get the motor mount made so I can have a somewhat complete frame

RWBWheel · 01-07-2013, 06:28 PM

I am thinking Digital printing may be a good option for making the plastic bushings in small quanitity.
Does any in the group use it at work?? You can 'build' any plastic part from a 3-d digital file and use various plastic's.
It is simply additive instead of subtractive machining.(amazing technology) You can now get a plotter for home use under a grand and let it make parts while you sleep...(or ride)..I have a parts bike and could dissasemble/send the bushings to a vendor to have them scan it (most machines can scan the part on the bed and then replicate it ) and quote pricing based on quantities wanted. What was the going rate from Yamaha before they were discontinued??
How many people would need them? I have 1985 models and I assume 85 to 87 all have same bushings in the 200's??
Fshflthnkng...

01-02-2013, 10:28 PM	#796
Cliff h [IMG]http://i219.pho Joined: Dec 2011 Location: Anchorage, Ak Oddometer: 154	kobayashi-maru: I did some searching on youtube of the Ecorider230D. I am not sure which videos are yours as you didn't include links. I am intrigued by your machine. The questions about it abound: 1.) With a diesel engine, are there glow plugs, or a kick starter (hopefully with compression release), will it run on a fine German beer, or bio-diesel? 2.) The clip of the Ecorider230D in the snow has turn signals, is it road legal? 3.) Is it one or two wheel drive? 4.) How difficult is it to obtain parts for on German ebay, and are the parts prices artificially inflated like they are for the BW in America? 5.) Does your bike get more respect in Germany than the BW does in America? 6.) Are females as repulsed by your bike as much as they are by the BW? 7.) Do your Lederhosen get caught up in the chain drive? Auf Wiedersehen, Cliff. Cliff h screwed with this post 01-02-2013 at 10:44 PM

01-03-2013, 10:56 PM	#799
Mr. BigWheel ^OP b00b Joined: Mar 2009 Location: South central Alaska Oddometer: 548	Tire Clearance Photos!!! Just what everyone has been waiting for! 25x12-9 (It is actually a Mud Buster, NOT a Duro HF243): There is about 20mm of clearance at the shock mount point: 30mm at the outside of the tread: This is how much wear there is on the chain: I hope some of this helps. It sure used enough bandwidth. Regards, Mr. BigWheel __________________ The BigWheel channel - Home of the self-aggrandizing Enduro Alaska videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/MisterBigWheel?feature=mhum

01-05-2013, 05:46 PM	#800
jaubuchon Cheapest Boy Alive Joined: Sep 2012 Location: Peoria, Az Oddometer: 33	The BigMower The BM200 as I like to call it is coming along nicely, wiring is ready to put in, body and frame are ready for paint, the motor is to bare magnesium, following the bigwheel spirit it has some big ol wide wheels in the back, pictures soon. Got a carb float bowl gasket( the place in town sells all of the parts for a bigwheel) Trying to decide on color, im thinkin motor chevy orange, and the mower either black, plum crazy, red, or shelby blue. jaubuchon screwed with this post 01-05-2013 at 05:49 PM Reason: im 14 and screw things up

01-05-2013, 08:07 PM	#801
jaubuchon Cheapest Boy Alive Joined: Sep 2012 Location: Peoria, Az Oddometer: 33	3-wheeler Since Bigwheels are out of my price range I am lookin for a 3 wheeler, 85 or 6 i gotta at least have something weird, nothin is weirder than the lawnmower, but just something different from the jr50 the blaster and the rm125, and km125, and the camaro

01-06-2013, 11:23 AM	#802
Röhrich big wheel freak Joined: Dec 2012 Location: Germany\Netherlands Oddometer: 35	Goodevening, I have a problem. When I powdercoated my rear swingarm, i broke the plastic bushings because I thought they would melt just like they from my Rv90. They were extremely damaged and broken. But now I need new ones, but I don´t know where I can get them. Is there someone who knowes where I can get those plastic bushings? Regards, Röhrich

01-03-2013, 10:40 AM	#797
kobayashi-maru n00b Joined: Jan 2012 Location: Hessen / Germany Oddometer: 3	Hi Cliff, THX for your interest. Well, this scottish origin has a rope and an e-starter, contains a HATZ 232cc Multi Fuel 1 piston Diesel engine with a glow plug ( no candle ), semi- automatic belt transmission based on Woodward ( not DAF ), RW chain drive. For the rest i fire it up with standart Diesel Fuel, or, if not available around, with the cheapest salade oil from a discounter. During low Temp adding floatagents. The one i´ve got a couple of years ago was fully Road legal equipped ( see clip ), but yet i do not have the registration. Try to get it thru with both YBW´s later this year. Parts are easier to organize here in Europe. There where sold to Sweden aswell as to France and Switzerland. Guess to other countries as well. I do not need any parts because mine was out-of-the-box. So i just added the center stand, rear rack and hitch when i unpacked it. Yup, females ?? That´s a good one. My home village is in an agricultural region close to the former DCL ( east-germany ). Farm Girls ( if they are left ) like it, because it´s useful off road to check the cows or anything else. So, it depends... But usually people are very interested, even old school friends working for the cops or fed´s like to have a ride on it, because it´s so relaxed. Well, with a max of 38-40 km/h it´s more drifting then riding. I love it. Maybe for the trip to Scandinavia i´ll swap the rear sprocket to speed her up a bit. The clip in Winter you already mentioned. Others i´ll do by PM. All clips where presented by a friend and where produced by Qwait Gwanskaya Productions from Ushhorod / Ukraina. Oh, we do not wear Lederhosen or Krachlederne, the Folks down in Bavaria and Austria do. But they are foreigners anyway, Prost, Salve, Cheers !!! Enjoy. Have a good one. / KoMa

01-03-2013, 02:22 PM	#798
Röhrich big wheel freak Joined: Dec 2012 Location: Germany\Netherlands Oddometer: 35	Goodevening, Here are some pictures of my Bw200 and Bw350 projects. I also have a question: ( picture with the back of the aircleaner ) Does that cover for the battery really exists? I have never seen this part in real, not even in the internet. Regards, Röhrich

01-06-2013, 10:40 PM	#803
Mr. BigWheel ^OP b00b Joined: Mar 2009 Location: South central Alaska Oddometer: 548	jaubuchon, Those of us with limited imaginations need photos. Where are the pictures? You are just torturing us without them. A BW powered mower? Who wouldn't want one? Show us the money!!!! Röhrich, http://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/oem...8fe9/swing-arm Are you referring to part #2 on the BW350 diagram? http://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/oem...8fc5/swing-arm It is also #2 on the 200 swing arm diagram. If so, those parts have been discontinued for a long time and are scarce. They are usually sold with a used swing arm. We really need to do something to reproduce this part,. I'm going to go outside to turn on the Bat Light to let Shercoman know that he is needed. Regards, Mr. BigWheel __________________ The BigWheel channel - Home of the self-aggrandizing Enduro Alaska videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/MisterBigWheel?feature=mhum

01-06-2013, 10:44 PM	#804
Mr. BigWheel ^OP b00b Joined: Mar 2009 Location: South central Alaska Oddometer: 548	From earlier tonight: Cretaceous Cliff backing it in at the Knik Glacier __________________ The BigWheel channel - Home of the self-aggrandizing Enduro Alaska videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/MisterBigWheel?feature=mhum

01-07-2013, 04:26 AM	#805
Röhrich big wheel freak Joined: Dec 2012 Location: Germany\Netherlands Oddometer: 35	Yes, its part number 2 for the BW200. Is there another motorcycle with that part? Regards, Röhrich

01-07-2013, 12:04 PM	#807
kobayashi-maru n00b Joined: Jan 2012 Location: Hessen / Germany Oddometer: 3	Hej Hillbilly, Röhrich and i are in the low-lands and V-Tyskland, so just a few clicks away. For the BW200ES we could need some bushings. What plastics you´re using ? Hilsen, / KoMa

01-07-2013, 06:28 PM	#810
RWBWheel Adventurer Joined: Oct 2012 Location: Pacific Northwest-Everett Wa. Oddometer: 48	Bushings I am thinking Digital printing may be a good option for making the plastic bushings in small quanitity. Does any in the group use it at work?? You can 'build' any plastic part from a 3-d digital file and use various plastic's. It is simply additive instead of subtractive machining.(amazing technology) You can now get a plotter for home use under a grand and let it make parts while you sleep...(or ride)..I have a parts bike and could dissasemble/send the bushings to a vendor to have them scan it (most machines can scan the part on the bed and then replicate it ) and quote pricing based on quantities wanted. What was the going rate from Yamaha before they were discontinued?? How many people would need them? I have 1985 models and I assume 85 to 87 all have same bushings in the 200's?? Fshflthnkng...

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