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Old 05-14-2012, 02:38 PM   #451
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Karhnage and I just did a instructional track day this last Wednesday and had our suspension adjusted by the suspension guy there. Hey cranked them way more than what BMW recommended. We had them turned to the recommended values and on his he cranked at least an extra 9+ and on mine it was at least an extra 6+ measureing the sag with and without us. Worked much much better. The suspension on these things is pretty bad, way too soft. I had the bike go squirrly under me a few times both in accelerating and in braking so I think it's the suspension more than anything.

What were your facotry tires? Our Pilot Powers are holding pretty good and they did great on the track. I was leaned over as far as you could lean that thing over without going down. I've been thinking about getting a set of PR3's in the winter because the amount of water on the roads we get out here but I'd imagine they'd wear out quick in any other season.
Hi, I also started with a stiff rear suspension but found the relatively soft front end presenting me with a huge challenge. My 'logic' was to balance the front and the rear suspension (I'm no expert!) I will never forget that first front end dive on route 84 here coming into a turn. the relatively stronger brakes excaseberated the experience :-)

My rear factory tire the bike came with is a Michelin Pilot Power and Michelin said not to mix treads. I still may. The two mushroom plugs I put in about 1k miles ago are down to one working plug.

I am looking into alternatives - have a southwest trip planned to Cloudcroft, NM and want to have more reliable rubber under me ...

If I do hang on to my 13.5l bike ("jury is still out"), as is, front suspension is the next project, for sure,
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Old 05-14-2012, 04:13 PM   #452
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Clockwise and I think the BMW recommendation was 11 and 12 for our height and weight if I remember correctly so what I wrote earlier was added to that.
Just to be sure I understand how you did it...

So the knob is turned counterclockwise to a full stop and then turned back clockwise about 20 clicks? The 11 recommended by BMW then another 9 the suspension guy added? Wow, sounds stiff.
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Old 05-14-2012, 06:03 PM   #453
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Yup, we applied the initial 11 or 12. Then watched him crank the crap out of it. I lost count but counted at least that much on my buddies. Then counted about 6 on mine. The responsiveness of the bike was instantly better in the first turn.
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Old 05-14-2012, 07:48 PM   #454
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Yup, we applied the initial 11 or 12. Then watched him crank the crap out of it. I lost count but counted at least that much on my buddies. Then counted about 6 on mine. The responsiveness of the bike was instantly better in the first turn.
how did the front behave under those settings?
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:30 PM   #455
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The front is soft and squishy and independant of the rear. It sucks and not going to change since there's no way to change without replacing it.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:54 AM   #456
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My F8R, before I installed the Wunderlich radiator guard and instrument panel reinforcers.

Also on the list of future mods:
-Slip-on Exhaust (haven't decided which yet)
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-Eliminate the tail on the back(should be done by the end of the week, I'm custom fabricating an aluminum bracket.)
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When I get the hugger, spoiler and seat cowl, I'm going to repaint everything to Black or dark silver more than likely


Welcome to the fun. Nice looking bike.
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:49 PM   #457
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I put the Two Brothers on today. It sounds a lot deeper and throatier, but a little loud. I ordered a Power Tip for it that will lower the noise 3-4 db. I didnt weigh either of them but the TB has to be 2/3 lighter. The butt dyno doesnt indicate any added horsepower but the throttle response seems a little smoother, just a little though. I had it installed in about 30 minutes, overall I am happy.


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Old 05-17-2012, 01:52 AM   #458
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What is the general recommendation out there for a replacement rear tyre?

I am tempted to go with the Michelin PR2, which I have on my other (running) bike.

Enjoy,
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Go with the PR3s. You've probably read on the f800forums that everyone loves them (except one guy here, I think, who says they almost killed him) but they are so much better than the stock tires on the street that there's really no comparison. I've put 4 or 5 thousand km on mine so far, and the tread depth is still fine.
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:46 AM   #459
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Go with the PR3s. You've probably read on the f800forums that everyone loves them (except one guy here, I think, who says they almost killed him) but they are so much better than the stock tires on the street that there's really no comparison. I've put 4 or 5 thousand km on mine so far, and the tread depth is still fine.
thanks, i'm getting aboard the train ;-) - have one on the way.
my upcoming planned trip through the southwest (USA) will likely see some huge temperature swings and we'll see how they hold up from below sea level to >3km elevations - mole hill to you!

perhaps my front will be cause for more concern in the heat,
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I put the Two Brothers on today. It sounds a lot deeper and throatier, but a little loud. I ordered a Power Tip for it that will lower the noise 3-4 db. I didnt weigh either of them but the TB has to be 2/3 lighter. The butt dyno doesnt indicate any added horsepower but the throttle response seems a little smoother, just a little though. I had it installed in about 30 minutes, overall I am happy.
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looks great - got audio?
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looks great - got audio?
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Not yet, this weekend.
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Old 05-18-2012, 03:56 PM   #462
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Go with the PR3s. You've probably read on the f800forums that everyone loves them (except one guy here, I think, who says they almost killed him) but they are so much better than the stock tires on the street that there's really no comparison. I've put 4 or 5 thousand km on mine so far, and the tread depth is still fine.
Replacing with PR3s instead of Sportec Z3s is about 50% more expensive. Worth it?
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The TB pipe has some popping and burbling, just like any other aftermarket can on any bike. Wish I could make it go away, its not obnoxious or anything, just not me anymore. Damn I am old...
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:01 AM   #464
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The TB pipe has some popping and burbling, just like any other aftermarket can on any bike. Wish I could make it go away, its not obnoxious or anything, just not me anymore. Damn I am old...
Never had that with my GPR pipe, but had one of these fitted pretty much since I had the bike, so don't know if that makes the difference. Either way, it works and worth the money.

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Old 05-20-2012, 08:11 AM   #465
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pr3 pressure & rear suspension resets?

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Go with the PR3s. You've probably read on the f800forums that everyone loves them (except one guy here, I think, who says they almost killed him) but they are so much better than the stock tires on the street that there's really no comparison. I've put 4 or 5 thousand km on mine so far, and the tread depth is still fine.
so i bought the pr3 from 4wheelsonline.com ($167.95) and had them put on by a local guy ($22) after having had some difficulties in the past with my old suzuiki wheels and michelins and have a short report.

the tire guy suggested 37 pounds of pressure, but i put it on 41, as i recall reading to use the pressure the vehicle manufacturer specs. the tire is much firmer than the original pilot power, even before it went flat (!) causing ther ride to be stiff (as i like it), but the front suspension's short comings came into play, causing for a somewhat unpredictable handling situation.

is it play with the pressure and rear suspension time? i am tempted to reduce the pressure in the rear by 10% and see what happens.

what is the recommendation out there from folks with a pr3 rear?

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ps still planning out my cloudcroft round trip, but i hear they get some serious weather out there, year-round.
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