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Old 12-05-2009, 04:20 AM   #61
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I mean that maybe rotating whole light to create shallow v shaped cutoff may help on left turns...
Some more light to left side...

I currently use hella Bi-halogen projector (with 35w hid) for hi/lo beam.
And Bosch working light (with 50w HID) when i need light to whole front sector.
Pattern is nice even and round, ~180 degrees horizontal and vertical...
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:26 AM   #62
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Wouldn't rotating the light just rotate the hard cuttoff from horizontal towards vertical? I am not sure where the V-shape comes from... but what's up with the Euro regulators anyways; someone's not got their thinkin' cap on putting a hard horizontal cuttoff on a motorcycle (unless nobody leans in Europe).
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:17 AM   #63
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Hi Meaty.

Dunno if you guys get the same lens as us Arsetralians do, but the low beam lens here seems to be a "universal" type fitting, in that as far as I can tell you get the left hand drive or right hand drive effect by just turning the light housing in the frame and using the alternate screw holes.
This means the lens isn't actually cut to throw a proper side pattern, and will always give a less then ideal result. It sucks balls.

I tried adjusting mine but it just made it worse. So I made it so the HID doesn't blind oncoming drivers, but it sure burns the eyeballs out of folks I pass as it reflects into their eyes via the side mirror. That problem is difficult to adjust out with the weird lens. I have managed to minimise the effect, but it remains.

I'd love a proper lens, life would be so much simpler in the dark.
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:31 AM   #64
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Hi Godsilla,

I don't think there is a solution. The hard-cutoff was designed for cars that don't lean in corners. For a car no matter what they are doing it always look like this:



For a motorcycle, leaned in a corner the inside of the corner looses illumination:



I would call this a fatal flaw (I feel in jeopardy every time I ride at night). On a curvy highway through the hills I was passed by an 18-wheeler because I couldn't see through the corners... as soon as you "fix" this then you blind cars/peds when you are not in a corner.
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:00 AM   #65
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I noticed when I switch over to the adventure setup.. the way it sits stationary and doesnt turn with the forks is kinda wonky... as opposed to my acerbis mask that the lights turn when I turn ... I havent dialed in my lighting but winter and the first flakes are heereeee
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:05 PM   #66
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Hi Godsilla,

I don't think there is a solution. The hard-cutoff was designed for cars that don't lean in corners. For a car no matter what they are doing it always look like this:



For a motorcycle, leaned in a corner the inside of the corner looses illumination:



I would call this a fatal flaw (I feel in jeopardy every time I ride at night). On a curvy highway through the hills I was passed by an 18-wheeler because I couldn't see through the corners... as soon as you "fix" this then you blind cars/peds when you are not in a corner.

So turn the high beam on in the corner and off in the straight.

It's a good reason to stick with the halogen high beam instead of HID.

There are a couple of ways to fix this. Use a dim bulb in a lens with lousy cutoff. Your eyes will adjust to less overall light, but you have about the same amount of stray light above the cutoff.

Adjusting the beam pattern as you turn also works, but implementing it well is tricky.
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:35 PM   #67
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So turn the high beam on in the corner and off in the straight.

It's a good reason to stick with the halogen high beam instead of HID.

There are a couple of ways to fix this. Use a dim bulb in a lens with lousy cutoff. Your eyes will adjust to less overall light, but you have about the same amount of stray light above the cutoff.

Adjusting the beam pattern as you turn also works, but implementing it well is tricky.
Hey Luke,

yeah, maybe just running the high beam is the way to go. It's not like I am a car w/ two high beam halogens, or a import-modder w/9000K HIDs in crappy halogen housings. They hurt my eyes.

So remove the cutoff and put a lower output bulb in there, or get a cutoff that automatically stays level as you turn... what about a dark heavy fluid sandwiched between two plates of glass? Probably wouldn't respond fast enough. I went looking for an animated GIF of one of those things they used to (still?) sell but all I found worth posting was this:

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Old 12-07-2009, 10:40 PM   #68
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...one of those things they used to (still?) sell ...
Um, could you be a little more specific? There's a lot of 'things' for sale

Anything that depends on gravity isn't likely to work very well- there's that whole centrifugal force thing. The one that lets bikes lean way over without falling.


Oh, and, nice picture.
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:45 AM   #69
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It's a good reason to stick with the halogen high beam instead of HID.
Or to get one of those fancy Bi-Xenons like Seikkailu_R uses...
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:04 AM   #70
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Dont just use the high ... thats all I have on my faring setup until I get a 90mm flood and without a flood, sharp mtn cornering sucks bad... its ok on straight roads but man do I have a hard time between that and the reflection without the dash cover ... I had to put a temporary visor made of a plastic jug the top 3/4of light (think baseball cap) to keep it from flashing up the faring
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:35 AM   #71
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Um, could you be a little more specific? There's a lot of 'things' for sale

...
Yeah... they were two pieces of glass making a thin, vertical sandwich that was partially filled with blue liquid, and it would rock back and forth to make waves. Does that crappy description help?

If the fluid was viscous enough it would not be too jumpy, but not too viscous so that it would respond quickly to leaning... probably not a happy medium eh? Maybe a damping structure to keep a thinner fluid from being too jumpy?
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:02 AM   #72
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Or to get one of those fancy Bi-Xenons like Seikkailu_R uses...
Its just cheap Bi-Halogen version with aftermarket HID...
And with both HCR and DCR stamps...




Current setup, total 85w of HID lights...
High beam, low beam and flood.



All lights on.
Distant to barn is ~210m (~689ft)


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Old 12-10-2009, 07:57 AM   #73
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All lights on.
Distant to barn is ~210m (~689ft)
Isn't that Santa at 323m? I thought I heard he was somewhere up that way...
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:08 PM   #74
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Isn't that Santa at 323m? I thought I heard he was somewhere up that way...
You mean Joulupukki eh?
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:42 PM   #75
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You mean Joulupukki eh?
That would be him the one and only. Seeing as its the festive season....

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