KTM 640 Adv illumination

[meat popsicle]

HAMSAR LIGHTING

http://www.hamsar.com/Content/EN/Pro...tType=Lighting

An offroad racing group was touting this mfg - MADE IN CANADA

90mm Low Beam projector


in case you were wondering, the 640a uses 90mm lamps so these might be direct replacements BUT this lamp uses less than ONE AMP.

DOT approved. They also pimp other lamps such as HIDs in the 90mm housing:



Interestingly they don't offer a high beam HID; all their high beams are halogen (H9s). Anyone know why?

Just another alternative.

[Low594]

HMMMMM! One of the tabs on my Low beam is broken, this could be just the fix! LED even! Ouch $399 for 1 LED low beam!

I did buy a pair of the ADVMonster aux LED lights, oh my god bright and there are new models, even brighter just released!

[meat popsicle]

Yeah, good lamps are not cheap; the stock ZKWs are... well let me look... hey, less that $200 from Munn Racing. So you would pay a premium for an LED low beam.

It uses about 1A, and the halogens are using 4-5 amps (out of 9-14A available from the charging system). The only good reasons I can see are (a) if you really needed amps for something else (heated gear, etc.) or (b) you'd like to not change a bulb for some time (as the LEDs last alot longer than halogens or HID capsules).

[bmwktmbill]

Originally Posted by wrk2surf

Dont just use the high ... thats all I have on my faring setup until I get a 90mm flood and without a flood, sharp mtn cornering sucks bad... its ok on straight roads but man do I have a hard time between that and the reflection without the dash cover ... I had to put a temporary visor made of a plastic jug the top 3/4of light (think baseball cap) to keep it from flashing up the faring

W2S,
Are you running both hi and lo beams together?

Been using that system down here in C. America on the hell for curvey roads with switchbacks from hell. Seems to work pretty good for me. I have 35W HIDs on both sides.

Heck of a lot of light with both fired up and no dead time shifting beams going from low to hi. Run 1 on lo, 2 on hi, 2 into the corners.
bill

[IamTRooPeR]

I am going to try one of these
http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/i...ewCat&catId=79


you can have them in 2 different lenses

bought one 2ndhand for 50euro, good to try one

[bmwktmbill]

Originally Posted by bmwktmbill

W2S,
Are you running both hi and lo beams together?

Been using that system down here in C. America on the hell for curvy roads with switchbacks from hell. Seems to work pretty good for me. I have 35W HIDs on both sides.

Heck of a lot of light with both fired up and no dead time shifting beams going from low to hi. Run 1 on lo, 2 on hi, 2 into the corners.
bill

Just rode from Wisconsin to Northern Idaho, 1700 miles, then around 500 miles off road in Idaho, gravel and dirt...rough going at times.

Chinese HID continue to perform very well.

I continue to believe they are the best bang for the buck.

Tough install with dual relays and ballasts, plus re switching and wiring so that the standard switches activate the relays but well worth the effort.

So far they are indestructible using the stock lighting capsules.

bill

[SCsurfer]

Originally Posted by bmwktmbill

Just rode from Wisconsin to Northern Idaho, 1700 miles, then around 500 miles off road in Idaho, gravel and dirt...rough going at times.

Chinese HID continue to perform very well.

I continue to believe they are the best bang for the buck.

Tough install with dual relays and ballasts, plus re switching and wiring so that the standard switches activate the relays but well worth the effort.

So far they are indestructible using the stock lighting capsules.

bill

Hey Bill ,
Where did you get your HID's from ? I did the Eastern Beaver upgrade a couple of years ago and it was a big improvement , but I am still wanting more light .

Paul

[bmwktmbill]

Originally Posted by SCsurfer

Hey Bill ,
Where did you get your HID's from ? I did the Eastern Beaver upgrade a couple of years ago and it was a big improvement , but I am still wanting more light .

Paul

Paul,
I am traveling and am in the boonies.
Do an advanced search on my name, the company is listed in my old posts.

Several have used it successfully.

There are several long threads.
bill

[Low594]

Has anyone tried to split open the Low Beam housing??

I picked up one of these

Morimoto Bi-Zenon Projectors from a craigslist ad, thinking it would be a direct swap. But its not, I need to open the stock housing, remove the projector guts and swap the new one in. This should give me a better light profile, from what I have read, and also a Hi & Low beam in one housing!

There seems to be 3 pieces to the factory housing, a plastic projector lens holder, a plastic spacer and a metal cone, with silicone sealer between the pieces. I removed as much of the silicone between the metal cone and the plastic space, but still doesn't want to separate!

Anyone have any first hand advice? Or a spare housing, just in case I really screw it up?

[Low594]

Here's the comparison, you'll see that the bulb and projector lens is open to the elements, not great for our bikes and how they get used! The lip at the widest point is where I removed the silicone from. I really don't want to break out the Dremel tool, but it's looking like that is the course of action I need to take!

Top view, throws things off. The 2 projector lenses are actually the same size.

[meat popsicle]

I guess you don't have a DOT stamp, but at least the projector is designed for the HID element and should work better than stuffing a HID capsule in the stock halogen lens.

[cahtty]

Anyone tried out these Hamsar (led) products? Couldn't find much on the net on they products, which isn't the best recommendation to any product...

Currently they seem to have also high beam on led for 90mm (71079), which is more interesting based on my past experiences with HID lights on motorbikes. HID and high beam don't really work well together as it takes way too long to brighten up, if it has been switched off due to upcoming traffic for a while. As we know, in the most (?) cars they use this moving shutter, hence there is no delay when swicthing on and off. But as we also know, thumbers are not the optimal companion for such a delicate instrument.

Obviously their low beam led would also match my need quite nicely, just trying to find low cost solution, and then low beam HID (aftermarket) + high beam LED combo might be reasonable option.

-cahtty-

[dnrobertson]

Originally Posted by cahtty

HID and high beam don't really work well together as it takes way too long to brighten up, if it has been switched off due to upcoming traffic for a while.
-cahtty-

A lot here just wire the high and low beam to work together, that removes the problem of losing light as you go from high/low. If you replace the std 55W globes with 35W HID, you are only using 15-20W more running both together.

I got a bit more fancy and fitted 2 x 35W HID and a 6xLED light bar and then found I liked the LED more, so rewired so I can run:

Just the HID low or
the LOW HID and LED "high" OR
the LOW HID and LED "high" and the HIGH HID.

It's amazing what you can do with a few diodes and relays.

[bmwktmbill]

David,
How about some pictures?
Sounds like a cool system.
bill

[dnrobertson]

Originally Posted by bmwktmbill

David,
How about some pictures?
Sounds like a cool system.
bill

Bill,

I'll get some details together.

The wiring will take me some time to figure out. It all made sense when I put it together, but now ???