The Gradual Morphing of My F650GS - Page 4

AdvWolf · 04-22-2011, 06:13 PM

Keep up the great job. Bike is looking sick!

"A" · 04-26-2011, 08:18 AM

Yes the plan was just to muck around with cardboard then build up the base from MDF and form the surface details with clay. That's where I'm at now. I've made plugs/molds out of many different materials in the past- polystyrene foam, rigid polyurethane foam, timber, steel, plaster and other materials that have been long forgotten. I havn't tried clay so that is the one I'm going for this time. Then I can say "been there, done that".
Thanks for your interest Erling and co. Yes, Kevlar can be a mongrel to work with. I have made 5 or 6 tanks for motorcycles over the years using it in the lamination along with glass and sometimes with a foam core. One or two even with a cloth woven from both carbon and Kevlar - a material more commonly available a couple of decades ago. Generally I put glass on the surfaces that would require sanding or that may be scuffed and can therefore be sanded more easily for repair.
Anyway, all materials have certain characteristics and they all fail in different ways. I have glass, carbon and Kevlar cloth in the workshop so its possible all three could be used!

ebrabaek · 04-26-2011, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by "A"

Yes the plan was just to muck around with cardboard then build up the base from MDF and form the surface details with clay. That's where I'm at now. I've made plugs/molds out of many different materials in the past- polystyrene foam, rigid polyurethane foam, timber, steel, plaster and other materials that have been long forgotten. I havn't tried clay so that is the one I'm going for this time. Then I can say "been there, done that".
Thanks for your interest Erling and co. Yes, Kevlar can be a mongrel to work with. I have made 5 or 6 tanks for motorcycles over the years using it in the lamination along with glass and sometimes with a foam core. One or two even with a cloth woven from both carbon and Kevlar - a material more commonly available a couple of decades ago. Generally I put glass on the surfaces that would require sanding or that may be scuffed and can therefore be sanded more easily for repair.
Anyway, all materials have certain characteristics and they all fail in different ways. I have glass, carbon and Kevlar cloth in the workshop so its possible all three could be used!

.... I know you will succeed with this project......

Erling

"A" · 04-27-2011, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ebrabaek

.... I know you will succeed with this project......

Erling

Cheers mate. I have produced some failures but I suppose that is part of the learning curve. I found images of some of the previous tanks when looking for this photo for a different thread

Tank to slip over the existing tank on my brothers TE610.

On the bike.

For my X Challenge- still work required on this one.

Fairing, tank and seat base we built for this beastie way back in time!

Regarding my current project, well the base MDF is now virtually complete so the next scary part is to transform myself into a sculptor and see if I can apply the modelling clay and shape it according to plan.

ebrabaek · 04-27-2011, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by "A"

Cheers mate. I have produced some failures but I suppose that is part of the learning curve. I found images of some of the previous tanks when looking for this photo for a different thread

Tank to slip over the existing tank on my brothers TE610.

On the bike.

For my X Challenge- still work required on this one.

Fairing, tank and seat base we built for this beastie way back in time!

Regarding my current project, well the base MDF is now virtually complete so the next scary part is to transform myself into a sculptor and see if I can apply the modelling clay and shape it according to plan.

Nice work.....

.... What resin did you use for the gas tank???? Did you coat the inside of the tank to sustain the gasoline????? There are few and far between the resins out there that will tolerate the ethanol more than anything else....

Erling

Captain Beardylocks · 04-27-2011, 08:45 AM

Wow! the X Challange tank in particular looks fantastic! I'd been thinking of doing a dazzle-ship type of paint job for the F8 after the stock yellow gets all beat up.... after seeing your work though, (and ebrabaek's) I might have to get my ass in gear and start getting some practice working with composites too.

Can't wait to see more. Thanks!

LukasM · 06-26-2011, 04:20 PM

Hello mate,

How is the bike build coming along? I just picked up a second damaged F650 twin very cheaply and am thinking how radical I want to go on this one. Chitown's Stormtrooper and your build are definitely inspiring!

Lukas

Motorfiets · 07-30-2011, 12:31 AM

any updates?

longwayaround · 07-31-2011, 08:59 AM

i too want to see more! I have the F650 twin also, and am totally excited to see what a monster yours will look like! good luck,

Motorfiets · 10-11-2011, 07:01 PM

A!!!!!!!! we need more pictures and an update

Motorfiets · 12-12-2011, 06:57 PM

BUMP!?!

señormoto · 12-13-2011, 10:42 AM

More pics! Quite the talented engineer you are... very exciting build you've got here.

toro618 · 12-15-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by "A"

This will probably offend both the BMW and KTM fraternity.

The Acerbis fender just happens to be these colours

Anyone know which KTM model this fender is from?

toro618 · 12-15-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by toro618

Anyone know which KTM model this fender is from?

Just found it...its the Acerbis Tecnik fender

skamikazee · 04-24-2012, 02:24 AM

Nothing new on this project?!
No way you can tease us like that and not show the final work.

04-27-2011, 08:45 AM	#51
Captain Beardylocks travelling beardo Joined: Aug 2009 Location: Birthplace of the Revolution (MA) Oddometer: 7,218	Wow! the X Challange tank in particular looks fantastic! I'd been thinking of doing a dazzle-ship type of paint job for the F8 after the stock yellow gets all beat up.... after seeing your work though, (and ebrabaek's) I might have to get my ass in gear and start getting some practice working with composites too. Can't wait to see more. Thanks! __________________ "She was a real woman. Nothing but guts. And ass." -Bukowski EX500 Ratbike Rebuild: http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...1#post15001161 Livin' on the road, my friend, was gonna keep you free and clean...

06-26-2011, 04:20 PM	#52
LukasM Beastly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Vienna, Austria Oddometer: 4,927	Hello mate, How is the bike build coming along? I just picked up a second damaged F650 twin very cheaply and am thinking how radical I want to go on this one. Chitown's Stormtrooper and your build are definitely inspiring! Lukas __________________ Proud member of the HUSABERG ADVENTURE TEAM! '12 Husaberg FE570, 09 KTM XC-F/ 450 RFS hybrid, 07 KTM 450 SMR, 08+09 BMW F650GS twins/F800GS conversion, 03+05 YZF-R6

07-30-2011, 12:31 AM	#53
Motorfiets Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2007 Location: North of Jack Daniel's, South of Country Music Oddometer: 2,974	any updates? __________________ Ben My Photo's

07-31-2011, 08:59 AM	#54
longwayaround Female Adventurer Joined: Apr 2011 Location: oot and aboot Oddometer: 25	i too want to see more! I have the F650 twin also, and am totally excited to see what a monster yours will look like! good luck, __________________ "go freely with powerful uneducated persons and with the young and with the mothers of families, read these leaves in the open air every season of every year of your life, re-examine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul" -Walt Whitman longwayaround screwed with this post 02-18-2013 at 08:19 AM

10-11-2011, 07:01 PM	#55
Motorfiets Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2007 Location: North of Jack Daniel's, South of Country Music Oddometer: 2,974	A!!!!!!!! we need more pictures and an update __________________ Ben My Photo's

04-22-2011, 06:13 PM	#46
AdvWolf Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2010 Location: The Mountains -Almost Heaven, WV Oddometer: 248	Keep up the great job. Bike is looking sick!

04-26-2011, 08:18 AM	#47
"A" ^OP numbum Joined: Aug 2008 Location: Albany Western Australia Oddometer: 288	Yes the plan was just to muck around with cardboard then build up the base from MDF and form the surface details with clay. That's where I'm at now. I've made plugs/molds out of many different materials in the past- polystyrene foam, rigid polyurethane foam, timber, steel, plaster and other materials that have been long forgotten. I havn't tried clay so that is the one I'm going for this time. Then I can say "been there, done that". Thanks for your interest Erling and co. Yes, Kevlar can be a mongrel to work with. I have made 5 or 6 tanks for motorcycles over the years using it in the lamination along with glass and sometimes with a foam core. One or two even with a cloth woven from both carbon and Kevlar - a material more commonly available a couple of decades ago. Generally I put glass on the surfaces that would require sanding or that may be scuffed and can therefore be sanded more easily for repair. Anyway, all materials have certain characteristics and they all fail in different ways. I have glass, carbon and Kevlar cloth in the workshop so its possible all three could be used!

12-12-2011, 06:57 PM	#56
Motorfiets Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2007 Location: North of Jack Daniel's, South of Country Music Oddometer: 2,974	BUMP!?! __________________ Ben My Photo's

12-13-2011, 10:42 AM	#57
señormoto Supermoto Abuser Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Costa Rica Oddometer: 1,001	More pics! Quite the talented engineer you are... very exciting build you've got here. __________________ I have a feeling that there are some decisions being made on certain teams lately to make things more complex in order to ensure a certain technological standard of confusion is met.

04-24-2012, 02:24 AM	#60
skamikazee Noviço Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Portugal, Lisbon Oddometer: 245	Nothing new on this project?! No way you can tease us like that and not show the final work.

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