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Old 01-23-2015, 09:33 AM   #1
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2008 A125 Vesus 1986 Honda Elite 150

Hi Folks,

I bought a Elite 150 last month after I blew up the engine on my Agility. I planned to keep it until I got the Kymco running,. I didn't know if the Kymco would ever run again, so I figured I might be holding onto the Elite for awhile.

Much to my surprise, the Agility is back on the road. Now I have a dilemma. Which scooter do I keep? My scooter requirements are as follows: Reliability, carrying capacity, performance, and size (smaller is better).

So, which scooter is better? I'm torn, reliability wise. The Honda, well, it's a Honda, but it's 30 years old and has 10k miles. The Kymco is newer, but it has 20k miles and just had the engine rebuilt by an idiot. I really like the kick starter on the Kymco, which the Honda lacks. I know I can take apart and rebuild th Kymco, which is a plus. Parts availability on the Kymco are good. Idk about the Honda, but I got a few small items with no issues.

The Kymco crushes the Honda as far as carrying capacity. The Honda has no underseat storage (wtf?).

Top speed is close. The Honda may accelerate a little faster. The Kymco has better brakes. They handle differently, but neither one is bad.

They're about the same size. The Kymco may be a little smaller. Not by much.

The Honda feels like it's higher quality. The lights are better. The mirrors are better. It holds more gas.

I'm leaning toward the Kymco, but I'm torn. I'm looking for someone to tell me something I haven't thought of. Basically, "You need to keep the XXXX because of YYYY." Any thoughts are welcome.

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Old 01-23-2015, 09:38 AM   #2
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Keep them both for a few months and see which one you end up riding the most, purely in the name of research of course
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Old 01-23-2015, 10:04 AM   #3
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They handle differently, but neither one is bad.
Agility 125 12" wheels with front disc brake . . versus Elite 150 10" wheels and only drum brakes.

The simplicity of the Agility air-cooled engine versus the more complex Elite liquid-cooled engine may also be a factor . . all depends on personal preference.
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Old 01-23-2015, 03:15 PM   #4
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As a fan of 80's Honda Elites, I vote for the Honda, but the idea that you should use both for a couple of months is good. Pay attention to which one you pick to do the things you do most. If the Honda does not have a milk crate or other such box or basket on the rack, get one and a bungee net. Also, you can loop the handles of a cloth shopping bag over the mirror shafts and carry a lot between your knees.

I like the water cooled feature in your climate. I've never had an Elite overheat, even stuck in traffic on a 100 degree day.
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Old 01-23-2015, 07:50 PM   #5
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Elite you can aways add a rear rack with top box and ether hard or soft sadlebags . Dont have a rear rack ? fleabay for 30 bucks used . Really as one guys side it's what you like and whats going to breakdown first. Elite will CDI etc may go with age but 15 years down the line that elite going to be running with 50 000 miles if taken care of will a125 whom knows ? Really Want under seat storage sell both and find a honda helix , pcx etc. New old stock PCX 125 2250 . Used helix 800 to 1500 bucks . It all depends on how much cash you ve got . Both rides should get you at lest 1200 to 1700 trading bucks on a new ride . That leaves you out of pocket 5 to 800 bucks for a new ride with warranty . If your broke Keep the honda I ve seen them brought back from the dead looking like rust heaps that should never run again with a little work. That guy whom did that worst issue after rusting away for 8 years near the sea was the clutch springs needing replacing . You repaired your newer scooter but whom knows if your really did get all the metal out of the engine . We can only hope. Keep the elite or got new.
http://sarasota.craigslist.org/mcy/4839469673.html

A new SYM 2008 hd 125 for 1900 . http://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2...-125-111640497
a new kymco agitlit 125 for 1800 http://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2...-125-113736301
The sym symba 100 honda club clone which is a nice bike but only 50 MPH or less for 2 grand. http://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2...-100-105770763

Might see what real deal they give you on 2011 pcx 125 . 2200 to 2500 is about right . http://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2...5%29-112804799

Some really nice deal with Yamaha zuma 125 . 400 bucks back 0% interest. http://www.yamahamotorsports.com/spo...tory-financing

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Old 01-26-2015, 05:21 AM   #6
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Thanks for the thoughts guys. That turned out to be simple enough. I ran into a guy who wanted a scooter for his college bound daughter. She liked the Elite, so off it went. I sure hope this agility holds together.
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Old 01-26-2015, 06:19 PM   #7
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Thanks for the thoughts guys. That turned out to be simple enough. I ran into a guy who wanted a scooter for his college bound daughter. She liked the Elite, so off it went. I sure hope this agility holds together.
I hope it works out for you to . Guess you ll know in the next year if it goes boom or not . Who knows you may have done a bang up job ,! Ok let me rephrase that You may have done a great job and it last forever and a day .
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:32 AM   #8
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All true. One of the reasons I decided to keep it is that I don't want to sell something that goes BOOM! In the next hundred miles. Also, I know how to take it apart if it blows up again.
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:15 PM   #9
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All true. One of the reasons I decided to keep it is that I don't want to sell something that goes BOOM! In the next hundred miles. Also, I know how to take it apart if it blows up again.
More power to you for being ethical . Far to many people are not today.
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