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Old 02-23-2011, 10:42 AM   #1
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Location suggestions in Italy, Austria, Swiss

Hello there !

In summer some friends and i plan to make a trip from Greece-Italy-Ch. Rep.
to see the motoGP race that will take place in Brno.

At the moment in our plans is a trip of about 3-4000km and we will have 10-14 days for our trip. As i have no much idea of those places could you please suggest some worth visiting sightsings (natural and cultural).

If possible mention some locations in:

Italy
Austria
Switzerland

At the moment i have in mind the Dolomites, Helingblut in Austria and
Neuschwanstein Castle.

I hope to have some replies :)

Thank you
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Old 02-24-2011, 06:15 AM   #2
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Hello there !

In summer some friends and i plan to make a trip from Greece-Italy-Ch. Rep.
to see the motoGP race that will take place in Brno.

At the moment in our plans is a trip of about 3-4000km and we will have 10-14 days for our trip. As i have no much idea of those places could you please suggest some worth visiting sightsings (natural and cultural).

If possible mention some locations in:

Italy
Austria
Switzerland

At the moment i have in mind the Dolomites, Helingblut in Austria and
Neuschwanstein Castle.

I hope to have some replies :)

Thank you
Somewhere in section I posted a dedicated journey in Dolomiti region. Anyway, another solution is to spend some days in Umbria and then go directly to Austria. Depend on you and where you land.. venezia or ancona.
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Old 02-24-2011, 10:13 AM   #3
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I will start from Venice, then go to Brno, get in Munich, Stuttgart and go down to Switzerland and back to Italy. Thats in general the plan.
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Old 02-24-2011, 01:14 PM   #4
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My father and I did 3300km. in two weeks, and some days we were quite exhausted. This was mainly riding in the alps. It does really take longer, also it's a vacation so some quiet time is nice.
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Old 02-24-2011, 02:07 PM   #5
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My father and I did 3300km. in two weeks, and some days we were quite exhausted. This was mainly riding in the alps. It does really take longer, also it's a vacation so some quiet time is nice.
I've done before 3000km in 10 days. There were days with 200km but others with 500km a day. Surely its not always an option to take small roads but from time to time highways save you time and you arrive sooner to the place of interest.
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Old 02-27-2011, 02:53 AM   #6
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Hi Alarm,
I am Harry from Austria and have a nice tour suggestion for the Austrian part.
From Venice to Belluno take the Autostrade, not a lot to see in this area.
Then:
Belluno -> Longarone on 51
Longarone -> Passo Staulanza -> Selva di Cadore on 251
Selva di Cadore -> Paso di Giau -> Cortina on 638
Cortina -> Paso Tre Croici -> Schluderbach on 48
Schluderbach -> Dobbiaco (Töblach) on 51
Dobbiaco (Töblach) -> Innichen -> Austrian Border on 49.
Continue on B100 till Tassenbach
B111 St. Owald-> Kötschach (narrow curvy road)
Kötschach -> Oberdrauburg B110
Oberdrauburg -> Debant B100
Debant -> Heiligenblut B107
Heiligenblut -> Fusch !! Großglockner Hochalpenstraße (Toll Road !)
Zell am See -> Saalfelden B311
Saalfelden -> Maria Alm -> Dientner Sattel -> Bischofshofen L164
Bischofshofen -> Eben B99
Eben -> Filzmoos -> Ramsau am Dachstein -> Weisenbach
Haus -> Pruggern B320
Prugern -> Stein an der Enns
Stein -> Großsölk -> Sölkpass -> Baierdorf -> St. Peter
St. Peter -> Oberwölz -> Schönberg -> Oberzeiring -> Judenburg
Judenburg -> Weißkirchen -> Gaberl -> Voitsberg
Voitsberg -> Stallhofen -> St. Oswald -> Gratwein
Gratwein -> Frohnleiten B67
Schrems -> Hart B64
Hart -> Fladnitz -> Angerwirt -> Zuckenhutgraben -> Gasen -> Birkfeld
Birkfeld -> Ratten on B72 -> Rettenegg -> Pfaffensattel -> Steinhaus am Semmering
Semmering -> Breitenstein -> Edlach -> Hirschwang an der Rax
B27 north to Singerin -> Kostertaler Gscheid -> Gutenstein -> Pernitz -> Pottenstein -> Altenmarkt -> Alland -> Krottenbach -> Pressbaum -> Rapottenkirchen -> Tuln
From Tuln to Brno take the main roads, this is a very flat area, no cuves at all.
This route sholud bring you in 4 days from Venice to Brno, 3 days if you are a fast one.
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Old 02-27-2011, 03:25 AM   #7
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For the route to Munich:
Take the Main route from Brno back to Tulln.
Tulln to Neulengbach on B19 (also main route)
Neulengbach -> Innermanzing -> Hainfeld -> Kleinzell -> Kalte Kuchl (Moto Cycle meeting restaurant)
Ochsattel -> St. Aegyd -> Gscheid -> Ulreichsberg -> Annaberg -> Mariazell visit the Basilika, there you can see how much money the church stole from the people in the past
Gusswerk -> Wildalpen -> Pfalau on B24
Pfalau to Großreifling on the small side road
Großeifling -> Hieflau B115
Hieflau -> Admont -> Trieben -> Rottenmann
Rottenmann -> Oppenberg -> Aigen im Ennstal -> Stainach
Stainach -> Bad Aussee B145
Bad Aussee -> Hallstatt you can visit the house of bones there
Hallstatt -> Bad Isch (Kaiservilla)-> Mitterweißenbach -> Weißenbach am Attersee -> Unterach -> Mondsee -> Thalgau -> Fuschl am See (Red Bull Head Quater)
Fuschl -> Tiefbrunn -> Faistenau -> Hinterebenau (Strubklamm) -> Gaißau -> Krispl -> Hallein
Pass the Border to germany in oberau.
Roßfeld Ringstraße (Toll Road) -> Bertesgarden (Obersalzberg is where Adolfs summer residence was)
From there take the B305 (Deutsche Alpenstraße) to Munich
It should take you 3 days from Brno to Munich with this tour, 2 days if ...
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Old 02-27-2011, 06:24 AM   #8
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I have to admit that this is by far the best reply i ever got on a motorcycle forum for route suggestion !!!!

Both routes were stored already in my google maps. I am not sure if we will be able pass through all the places you mention. Some times a highway is needed to save time and write km.

Harry !!! VIELEN DANK , for sharing those tips. Surely they will be taken seriously as you seem to know those places well

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Old 02-27-2011, 07:11 AM   #9
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Good that I could help, thats what a forum is about.
Hope you have good weather and can enjoy the austrian curves I do every weekend in summer
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Old 02-27-2011, 03:12 PM   #10
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Hi Alarm,
I am Harry from Austria and have a nice tour suggestion for the Austrian part.
From Venice to Belluno take the Autostrade, not a lot to see in this area.
Then:
Belluno -> Longarone on 51
Longarone -> Passo Staulanza -> Selva di Cadore on 251
Selva di Cadore -> Paso di Giau -> Cortina on 638
Cortina -> Paso Tre Croici -> Schluderbach on 48
Schluderbach -> Dobbiaco (Töblach) on 51
Dobbiaco (Töblach) -> Innichen -> Austrian Border on 49.
Continue on B100 till Tassenbach
B111 St. Owald-> Kötschach (narrow curvy road)
Kötschach -> Oberdrauburg B110
Really good ... but I have a more scenic alternative (if longer) from Innichen to Kotschach ..
Innichen -> Sexten -> Passo Monte Croce Comelico -> Candide -> Santo Stefano di Cadore -> Sappada -> Passo Cima Sappada ->Forni Avoltri -> Comeglians -> Ravascletto -> Paluzza -> Plockenpass -> Mauthen -> Kotschach
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:41 AM   #11
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The truth is that i cant decide which is better before i'll drive through those places :)

We won't have the time for sure to stop in all villages but i hope we will enjoy the Austrian landscape. The good part is that now i do have some suggestions.

In czech republic in my plans come prague and Sedlec Ossuary (else known as the Bone church) except Brno. I think its a unique place and "must see" . Creepy though .





Surely just driving is not an option. Cultural things should be also in our plans.
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Old 03-05-2011, 01:37 AM   #12
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Really good ... but I have a more scenic alternative (if longer) from Innichen to Kotschach ..
Innichen -> Sexten -> Passo Monte Croce Comelico -> Candide -> Santo Stefano di Cadore -> Sappada -> Passo Cima Sappada ->Forni Avoltri -> Comeglians -> Ravascletto -> Paluzza -> Plockenpass -> Mauthen -> Kotschach

I just saw your suggested route on the map. Yes it might be more scenic, i do not doubt it, but i don't think we can drive on such a direction when going from Venice to Brno .

The route is this one. I hope i got it right . http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...62,7.03125&z=8
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