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Old 02-25-2011, 05:03 PM   #16
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The problem with louder horns, especially if they're tonally different from what came with the vehicle, is that people who hear them start looking for the class of vehicle they associate with the horn. If someone hears a locomotive horn, he's going to freak and look right through the motorcyclist to see where the fuck the train is that's about to hit him. I want people to hear a bike horn and look for a bike, not hear a truck horn and run over me while they look for a truck.
thats not how it works.They get the fuck out a your way THEN they look!.I have had air horns on lots of bikes and thats what happens
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Old 02-25-2011, 05:17 PM   #17
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The problem with louder horns, especially if they're tonally different from what came with the vehicle, is that people who hear them start looking for the class of vehicle they associate with the horn. If someone hears a locomotive horn, he's going to freak and look right through the motorcyclist to see where the fuck the train is that's about to hit him. I want people to hear a bike horn and look for a bike, not hear a truck horn and run over me while they look for a truck.
That does happen - they don't associate the horn with the small vehicle, but even that can work for you. When I was young I kept encountering a particular lady in a big Caddy on my commute and she kept pulling out in front of me from a side road even though my lights were on. My horn was pathetic so I put a truck horn on my Triumph TR3 (car, not bike) and the next time she did I honked at her and she stopped whereas she didn't before. She didn't see a truck so she started to pull out again and I honked again as I went by her, and again she stopped.
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Old 02-25-2011, 05:49 PM   #18
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That does happen - they don't associate the horn with the small vehicle, but even that can work for you. When I was young I kept encountering a particular lady in a big Caddy on my commute and she kept pulling out in front of me from a side road even though my lights were on. My horn was pathetic so I put a truck horn on my Triumph TR3 (car, not bike) and the next time she did I honked at her and she stopped whereas she didn't before. She didn't see a truck so she started to pull out again and I honked again as I went by her, and again she stopped.
So in other words she was a bitch in a Cadillac who felt entitled to pull out in front of anyone in a smaller vehicle, period.
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:00 PM   #19
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I just got a truck and after a couple of weeks it occurred to me that I could finally get a train horn, not just a big truck horn but a train horn.

I need an air compressor for the ARB lockers I will get, probably for an air suspension, and of course the train horn, then there is the idea of being able to air up tires and maybe even to drive air tools.

My truck has a retractable air hose mounted underneath it as well.



Plenty long enough to air up any of the tires, and nice to be able to do the ones on the trailer if needed as well.

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Old 02-25-2011, 06:22 PM   #20
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I need an air compressor for the ARB lockers I will get, probably for an air suspension, and of course the train horn, then there is the idea of being able to air up tires and maybe even to drive air tools.
I've read about that, taking along so much gear in case of a breakdown that the truck breaks from being overloaded. Then the response seems to be to pack spares for the parts that break.
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:16 PM   #21
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just got a book today on building your own horns from PVC.
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:08 AM   #22
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How about a one shot horn? Use a pyrotechnic package to provide the gas like an air bag actuator.
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:47 AM   #23
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So in other words she was a bitch in a Cadillac who felt entitled to pull out in front of anyone in a smaller vehicle, period.
Yup. Pretty much. She saw me, but just didn't care that I had the right of way.

She reminded me of my grandma whose motto was "they can watch out for me - I have the bigger car" and yes, my grandma drove a caddy too.
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:55 AM   #24
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I've read about that, taking along so much gear in case of a breakdown that the truck breaks from being overloaded. Then the response seems to be to pack spares for the parts that break.
Well, this rig is being built specifically for packing gear and as an RV, so I don't think having an air compressor and maybe a few tools is going to be a problem compared to the camper and the bikes and fuel and water and batteries I will be hauling. Of course weight is an issue with any rig, but I am keeping an eye on it and doing what I can to keep the weight down, but I will need air anyway to air up the tires on my dirt bike, and as I said it will have the ARB lockers and so on.

I am not going to purposely be going off-roading with this rig - too big and heavy for that, and I want it as my way to get home. The dirt bike will be what I use for off-road exploring. I do need the rig to be somewhat capable in muddy or snowy or sandy areas - you never know when you might slide off into a ditch, or it could rain and the dirt road you came in on is now awful muddy, or it could snow (like it has been doing here for the past week or so).
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:58 AM   #25
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My RTP has the police-issue siren and loudspeaker setup. I only have it wired for the air horn function. Sounds just like a firetruck horn because that is basically what it is. Yes, it gets attention. Most people get the f out of the way. But there was this one lady one morning....I don't know what was up with her, but she didn't even flinch and kept merging into me.

They're small enough for car or big bike mounting, but they're heavy and take up space. No air necessary.
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Old 02-26-2011, 11:41 AM   #26
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I am not going to purposely be going off-roading with this rig - too big and heavy for that, and I want it as my way to get home.
That's a different scenario. I was thinking of the 4x4 guys who end up way out in BFE and want to be able to machine a new engine block from raw ore "just in case."
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:20 PM   #27
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My ktm horn sounds like an ATM.

I just yell, it has the same effect.
I yell, they read my lips (through the closed face helmet) , then the fun begins.
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:27 PM   #28
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He did a 2 second blast. HOLY FUCK!! I'm pretty sure I crapped my pants. Those friggin horns where under the floor about 2 feet behind me.


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Old 02-26-2011, 01:56 PM   #29
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I've got the four horn set from Horn Blasters, $199.00. They have saved my bacon on many occasions.



I use a Vaiair compressor/tank set up to provide the air.

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That's a different scenario. I was thinking of the 4x4 guys who end up way out in BFE and want to be able to machine a new engine block from raw ore "just in case."
I may end up in BFE, but I am not going to be rock crawling or mud holing with a rig that weighs 10+K and has a 165" WB with a camper on it - not if I can help it. I've been stuck with much lighter rigs and things can break pretty easily - add some weight and as pointed out they break easier and faster.

No, I was thinking of at least an air wrench for the lug nuts and maybe other bolts or nuts that are hard to get on/off. Not sure what else. Certainly having a renewable air supply is awful handy for tire repair and for airing tires up and down. If you already have to have one for air driven lockers, might as well have a tank and a decent compressor. If I do go with an air ride suspension then I'll probably need a tank for that. Might as well combine it all together.
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