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Old 03-18-2015, 03:33 PM   #1
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Question KTM 690 reliability when riding hard on-road

Hello. coming from the mighty 990 Adv R. I'm used to high on-road speed and therefore I'm riding my new 2015 690 at 5000 to 7500 RPM in 3-6 gear.
My friends keep telling me that this type of riding kills the 690's engine and that big bore singles are not meant to be ridden that way.
One thing I've noticed - it eats a lot of engine oil..
So - should I limit myself to less RPM to keep engine health??

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Old 03-18-2015, 03:40 PM   #2
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How many engines have they replaced on their 690s (if they have one) due to the conditions you describe? My take is, ignore hearsay and ride the hell out of it.
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Old 03-18-2015, 03:43 PM   #3
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My 690 is my DD for my 30 mile commute. It was in California too where I'd take it down I-15 every day. Not a single issue.
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Old 03-18-2015, 04:22 PM   #4
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Side note on oil consumption.
What was your break in procedure when you got the bike?
Did you baby it?
Ride it like you stole it?
Steady commute on the highway?
Back roads with lots of variation in RPM's?
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Old 03-18-2015, 04:39 PM   #5
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Oil consumption alone is nothing to worry about. When I track my car, constant high RPM engine braking sucks up a lot of oil. A perfect GM 8.1L drinks a quart every 1000 miles. GM Turbo 8.8's, even more.

If the bike is fine elsewhere, no worries.
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Old 03-18-2015, 04:56 PM   #6
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Oil consumption alone is nothing to worry about. When I track my car, constant high RPM engine braking sucks up a lot of oil. A perfect GM 8.1L drinks a quart every 1000 miles. GM Turbo 8.8's, even more.

If the bike is fine elsewhere, no worries.
It's nothing to worry about on a track car but who wants to carry a couple liters with them on a 1500 mile Baja trip?
I've heard of 690 using 1 liter per 1000 miles. No Bueno
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Old 03-18-2015, 05:44 PM   #7
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Side note on oil consumption.
What was your break in procedure when you got the bike?
Did you baby it?
Ride it like you stole it?
Steady commute on the highway?
Back roads with lots of variation in RPM's?
good point. My 690 got a reasonable flogging on road, sand, gravel and hardly used any oil. Its a pretty bullet proof motor and the same one used in the 690duke so I wouldn't (and didn't) worry about giving it the berries. Remember, It comes with a slipper clutch for backing it into corners at high RPM - its made to thrash.
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Old 03-18-2015, 05:48 PM   #8
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Hello. coming from the mighty 990 Adv R. I'm used to high on-road speed and therefore I'm riding my new 2015 690 at 5000 to 7500 RPM in 3-6 gear.
My friends keep telling me that this type of riding kills the 690's engine and that big bore singles are not meant to be ridden that way.
One thing I've noticed - it eats a lot of engine oil..
So - should I limit myself to less RPM to keep engine health??

Thanks,
Adi
I do the same high speed/high RPM riding on my 15' 690 enduro. Seems very smooth between 5 and 7k rpm. No issues yet but I'm only at 650 miles. I'm just gona keep revving the shit out of it. I haven't got better than 42mpg yet. Lol!
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It's nothing to worry about on a track car but who wants to carry a couple liters with them on a 1500 mile Baja trip?
I've heard of 690 using 1 liter per 1000 miles. No Bueno
1L is a bit excessive. Expert rider riding extra hard? Or bad engine?
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Old 03-18-2015, 06:26 PM   #10
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1L is a bit excessive. Expert rider riding extra hard? Or bad engine?
Not sure how they're riding but there's a lot of talk about oil consumption over here.
http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...1048049&page=8

(Don't mean to hijack)
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Old 03-18-2015, 09:17 PM   #11
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Well got 635 miles of break in on mine and it hasn't used a drop (I wasn't super easy on it either). Revved the hell out of it on the way home today and did most my break in on logging roads between 3500-5500 with some single track and high speed tarmac thrown in. I think the oil consumption issue is based on funky break in or just some lemons out there. My buddy has over 13,000 on his 690 and it doesn't use a drop.
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Old 03-18-2015, 11:05 PM   #12
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Well got 635 miles of break in on mine and it hasn't used a drop (I wasn't super easy on it either). Revved the hell out of it on the way home today and did most my break in on logging roads between 3500-5500 with some single track and high speed tarmac thrown in. I think the oil consumption issue is based on funky break in or just some lemons out there. My buddy has over 13,000 on his 690 and it doesn't use a drop.
I think the oil consumption is a factor of how hard you ride it. If you constantly ride on 6-7K RPM I'll be very surprised if you 690 will not start eating oil.
If most of your ride is up to 4k RPM you probably will not see any oil consumption.

Eldo, to your question. The way I did my break-in:
1. Ride it hard on-road up to 6.5K RPM in all gears
2. 20% highways with mostly constant speed but I tried to accelerate & deccelerate as much as possible
3. 20% Ride it offroad including mud and hard work on the clutch
4. Rest of the time it was stop & go kind of riding
5. The engine never got too warm because it was winter here

BTW if the 690 will be reliable as it should. I think it is the best bike I've ever owned and keep it for long time
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Old 03-18-2015, 11:22 PM   #13
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I think the oil consumption is a factor of how hard you ride it. If you constantly ride on 6-7K RPM I'll be very surprised if you 690 will not start eating oil.
If most of your ride is up to 4k RPM you probably will not see any oil consumption.

Eldo, to your question. The way I did my break-in:
1. Ride it hard on-road up to 6.5K RPM in all gears
2. 20% highways with mostly constant speed but I tried to accelerate & deccelerate as much as possible
3. 20% Ride it offroad including mud and hard work on the clutch
4. Rest of the time it was stop & go kind of riding
5. The engine never got too warm because it was winter here

BTW if the 690 will be reliable as it should. I think it is the best bike I've ever owned and keep it for long time
My riding was for break in and it wasn't easy just not much over 6k till over 500 miles. Bajadave the guy I'm mentioning rides his hard all the time. To say you only ride between 6-7k means it will use a little oil but no where near 1 liter per 1000 miles. That's a problem not related to hard riding.
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Old 03-18-2015, 11:31 PM   #14
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I didn't say 1 liter for 1000 miles
mine eats 1 liter for 3125 miles (5k km)
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Old 03-19-2015, 01:09 AM   #15
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That's 200 cc / 1000 km....
Nothing to worry about.
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