IZH knowledge??

[enfielddnepr]

Hi,. over here in west europe there's very little experience and knowledge about the charming 350cc izh bikes..
can someone tell me;\
1 are the older better then the newer ones, like with dnepr?
2 is the quality over the years just as feeble as ural and dnepr, but more popular because it is cheaper and easier to fix?
3 are parts for the older ones a problem?

[ivara]

maybe more info to be found here ;
http://bcozz.multiply.com/

[bezdomn6i]

There are 3 different types of 350cc Izh bikes:
1. Planeta (single)
2. Jupiter (twin)
3. Planeta Sport (really rare single)

1 Quality of soviet consumer products were always questionable. I don't think that older ones were better built, but period where soviet union was falling apart quality suffered really badly.
2 You bought what you get. Izh is simpler and cheaper to build and cheaper to run than Dnepr or Ural and they were more available. In Estonia at least.
3 Over here really not, but prices tend to be and quality also.

Originally Posted by enfielddnepr

Hi,. over here in west europe there's very little experience and knowledge about the charming 350cc izh bikes..
can someone tell me;\
1 are the older better then the newer ones, like with dnepr?
2 is the quality over the years just as feeble as ural and dnepr, but more popular because it is cheaper and easier to fix?
3 are parts for the older ones a problem?

[Airhead Wrangler]

Paging Roma Dakota to the commie bike phone...

[rtwdoug]

Originally Posted by enfielddnepr

Hi,. over here in west europe there's very little experience and knowledge about the charming 350cc izh bikes..
can someone tell me;\
1 are the older better then the newer ones, like with dnepr?
2 is the quality over the years just as feeble as ural and dnepr, but more popular because it is cheaper and easier to fix?
3 are parts for the older ones a problem?

I have 5 of em in Bulgaria, 4 planeta singles, & 1 jupiter twin.
I like the planetas better, they seem to have more torque, and are less finicky. I still see them in use all over russia, they are tough. My planetas are mostly from the 60s. parts for all are easy to find, but look for original parts, not the new chinese crap for them. As far as I can tell, the engines never changed, so parts from a 65 will also fit an 85, most changes were cosmetic or electrical.

They are cheap fun bikes, easy to fix, low on power, but with a sidecar & some knobbies, great fun for trail riding in the mountains.

Come to BG, I'll let you try to kill one

Doug

[altf4]

hi there -

ask nieppi on adv who's also here: http://www.nieppi.com/n/?cat=1621
or ask kahlgryndiger who's also here: http://3d4you.de/izh/izh_main.html

the whole story is here: http://www.izh-49.de/ - but you may have to try translate.google.com

g max ~:)

[enfielddnepr]

German is no problem, most pages have general info but no user's info..
i wonder what cruising speed a izh 56 or type 3 can doo with sidecar, i would be great if 80km/h is manageable.
One would expect that the later types have some more power, just like the developments with the MZ models.
I understand, between the lines that quality is not in the neighbourhood of mz, but doable?

[enfielddnepr]

Originally Posted by rtwdoug

I have 5 of em in Bulgaria, 4 planeta singles, & 1 jupiter twin.
I like the planetas better, they seem to have more torque, and are less finicky. I still see them in use all over russia, they are tough. My planetas are mostly from the 60s. parts for all are easy to find, but look for original parts, not the new chinese crap for them. As far as I can tell, the engines never changed, so parts from a 65 will also fit an 85, most changes were cosmetic or electrical.

They are cheap fun bikes, easy to fix, low on power, but with a sidecar & some knobbies, great fun for trail riding in the mountains.

Come to BG, I'll let you try to kill one

Doug

Bulgaria is an big distance,
' try to kill one'?
with ural and dnepr this can be quite easy(cruising long tie over 85km/h, revving too high)
a 2 stroke is bound to be more vulnerable?
i like the izh sidecar rigs very much..i like the styling like also ural and dnepr..