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Old 03-12-2011, 07:13 AM   #1
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Kymco Agility 125 (GY6) starter motor died?

Greets ladies!

I figured my battery went dead after I couldn't start my Agility with the
thumb-action thingie but after replacing it (and confirming that it's holding
it's charge) nothing changed.

There's just a loud clicking noise coming from the starter motor when I try
starting it, and that's it.

Can the cause be anything else, and if not, can I replace the starter with
ANY GY6 starter or is there different models? I can see that the 50cc starter
is different, but the 125/150 looks the same for any type/brand of bike that
I can find.

An online shop recommendation would be welcome also, but I need shipping
in Europe/Croatia..

Anyone got one lyin around?

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Old 03-12-2011, 08:45 AM   #2
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Check your starter solenoid relay.
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:46 AM   #3
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Check your starter solenoid relay.
How exactly do I check it?

The local dealer said that since the clicking noise is coming from the
starter motor itself, that the relay is probably fine. True or.. ?
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:06 AM   #4
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How exactly do I check it?

The local dealer said that since the clicking noise is coming from the
starter motor itself, that the relay is probably fine. True or.. ?

Well there are a few different ways to check it. You can bypass the starter relay and connect the battery directly to the starter motor to see if it turns over. You can also measure voltage before and after the relay.

As for the dealer, I can't say its true or not. But I do know that a clicking sound like this is very common on many bikes due to the relay, so I'd bet its the relay. Starter motors don't go out very often, especially on a small scooter, so I don't know why the dealer would say its automatically the starter motor. I'd trouble shoot it a little and see whats going on first.
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Old 03-12-2011, 12:14 PM   #5
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Well there are a few different ways to check it. You can bypass the starter relay and connect the battery directly to the starter motor to see if it turns over. You can also measure voltage before and after the relay.

As for the dealer, I can't say its true or not. But I do know that a clicking sound like this is very common on many bikes due to the relay, so I'd bet its the relay. Starter motors don't go out very often, especially on a small scooter, so I don't know why the dealer would say its automatically the starter motor. I'd trouble shoot it a little and see whats going on first.
Thanks, I'll make sure it's not that thing first..
Cheaper fix for sure.
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Old 03-12-2011, 11:17 PM   #6
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Thanks, I'll make sure it's not that thing first..
Cheaper fix for sure.

No prob. Yep, it should definitely be a pretty easy and cheap fix.
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Old 03-13-2011, 08:29 PM   #7
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Make sure the battery is grounded to the motor. Take out the starter motor and hold it against a piece of wood, ground it to the negative side of a battery and hook up the positive side. It should have enough power to spin against the pressure of the wood and actually cause friction burns. If not, get a new starter.
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Old 03-18-2011, 10:24 AM   #8
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Ok, it's the starter. The rest of the stuff is fine.

Gotta check if all of those GY6 starter motors on ebay fit.. or if there's
various models.. I have no idea how to tell..

Dealer wants $300 for original replacement part, that's like 1/4 of the
value of the scooter...
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:00 PM   #9
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Ok, it's the starter. The rest of the stuff is fine.

Gotta check if all of those GY6 starter motors on ebay fit.. or if there's
various models.. I have no idea how to tell..

Dealer wants $300 for original replacement part, that's like 1/4 of the
value of the scooter...

Really? Thats interesting. Starter motors are are usually pretty rare to fail in my experience.

And $300? I'd say hell no! Your right, you could buy a whole new motor for that price on ebay! I'd definitely do some research and see what else will fit, or get lucky and find one on ebay.
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Old 03-19-2011, 01:44 AM   #10
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Really? Thats interesting. Starter motors are are usually pretty rare to fail in my experience.

And $300? I'd say hell no! Your right, you could buy a whole new motor for that price on ebay! I'd definitely do some research and see what else will fit, or get lucky and find one on ebay.
I use the scoot as my daily/main ride and for work about 1-2h a day and in
that short period of time I turn the scoot on and off probably over 20 times.

Maybe that's why..
Doing that in temperatures way below freezing and up to 100F probably
doesn't help..
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I use the scoot as my daily/main ride and for work about 1-2h a day and in
that short period of time I turn the scoot on and off probably over 20 times.

Maybe that's why..
Doing that in temperatures way below freezing and up to 100F probably
doesn't help..

Yea, that probably has a lot to do with it. Still, its a little early but if your turning it on and of 20 times in 2 hours I could understand.
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Old 03-19-2011, 11:39 AM   #12
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Ok, it's the starter. The rest of the stuff is fine.
Have you tested battery amps when pushing the starter button. If the amps are NOT spiking up, that would indicate a continuity issue . . example . . images.

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Have you tested battery amps when pushing the starter button. If the amps are NOT spiking up, that would indicate a continuity issue . . example . . images.

Thanks for the video, I had the starter on the table, it's siezed, hard to
turn, sounds like a grinder when and if I'm able to turn it at all.

The battery is fine (new), tried the starter relay too, everything fine.
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Thanks for the video, I had the starter on the table, it's siezed, hard to
turn, sounds like a grinder when and if I'm able to turn it at all.

The battery is fine (new), tried the starter relay too, everything fine.

Too bad you can't convert it to a kick start! Then You'd never need to worry about trashing the motors starting it that much. And a little 125 cc scooter engine couldn't have much compression/ resistance! But it would be a major job and not really worth it.
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Too bad you can't convert it to a kick start! Then You'd never need to worry about trashing the motors starting it that much. And a little 125 cc scooter engine couldn't have much compression/ resistance! But it would be a major job and not really worth it.
Umm, it DOES have a kick starter.
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