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Old 08-22-2013, 03:44 PM   #751
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Missus Sweetwater just started riding a TW200 and it fits the bill for her rather well as a starter bike. We stumbled into this thread a few days ago and now we're motivated to consider even more bikes, better bikes!

With lowering options and ideas like boot spacers, the market is a whole lot more "open" to the vertically challenged.

Thanks for Region Riley for starting this one


Congrats to you and the missus, she'll have a blast on the TW!
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:03 PM   #752
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http://www.ktm.com/freeride/freeride...l#.Uh7H3su9KK1

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Old 08-30-2013, 06:50 AM   #753
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any plans to release it in the US??
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Old 09-10-2013, 05:34 PM   #754
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Woot! The ultimate shortypants dual sport bike is ready to ride!



Hitting part of the COBDR tomorrow, riding from Buena Vista to Steamboat Springs for the KTM Rally. So excited!
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Old 09-10-2013, 08:41 PM   #755
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Sorry, really excited about this bike now. The fairing makes this dirt bike a completely different animal.

His and hers

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Old 09-12-2013, 03:42 PM   #756
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Very cool. Now we need a picture of you on it riding.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:39 AM   #757
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Very cool. Now we need a picture of you on it riding.
Agreed! Ride pics!
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:02 PM   #758
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sorry, really excited about this bike now. The fairing makes this dirt bike a completely different animal.

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love!!!
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:06 PM   #759
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Sorry, really excited about this bike now. The fairing makes this dirt bike a completely different animal.

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They look awesome. I am interested to know if the lights behine the screen don't create to much glare at night. I sure looks awesome!!!
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Old 09-16-2013, 08:45 AM   #760
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They look awesome. I am interested to know if the lights behine the screen don't create to much glare at night. I sure looks awesome!!!
I haven't ridden at night with the kit yet. But there are about 20 Rally Moto kits out there and the all have clear plexi over the lights. No reports of any glare.

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Old 09-16-2013, 02:17 PM   #761
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I haven't ridden at night with the kit yet. But there are about 20 Rally Moto kits out there and the all have clear plexi over the lights. No reports of any glare.

Awesome i keep showing this thread to my wife hoping she will give this a try.
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Old 09-16-2013, 05:56 PM   #762
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You look good on that bike. You are so tiny but that bike doesn't look overwhelming. Ride on (and tell us all about it)
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:06 PM   #763
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*drumroll* ...and our next shortypants project is....

A Shortypants 1988 Honda NX650!

Brought home this for Mala Bunny this weekend:





Which means another lowering project, YAY!!!

Plus NX's are rare, and pose problems for lowering, so here we go!
(hope ya'all enjoy this one)

Yes the condition IS as good as the pics, this is a near time capsule bike! I think these have great potential for the short wheelbase ADV Ladys. Although rare, the engine is standard Honda XR650L motor, and they are lighter and more powerful than a KLR650.

First let's deal with the rear.

So most bikes are easy to lower, you just get a lowering link, LIKE THESE FROM KOUBA LINK.

That one is actuall for an XR650L. While links are a quick and simple solution, they do have their drawbacks. Lowering links are actually l-o-n-g-e-r than the stock part (which allows the suspension to sag a bit). Since you are changing the length of a LEVER...

...in the suspension you are also changing the leverage ratio applied to the spring, and effectively altering the spring rate (which can be an advantage in certain situations). This is often overlooked by riders who slap in a link, likely because we prefer to ride than do math calculating ratios and spring rates. In the NX650 we would be replacing this part in the linkage:


but alas, there is no lowering link available for the NX650, so it's not an option.

That's fine by me, because I prefer to handle lowering via the means that any good suspension shop will tell you is the correct way, which is to open the shock and install a spacer on the shaft that prevents it from extending to full length, effectively making it a shorter shock. Since we are dealing with levers and ratios (the swing arm thingy) we will have to do some pesky math again, but it also illustrates how this can get you big gains in height reduction. Since the part of the swing arm behind where the shock linkage bolts up is 3 times longer than the section forward of the shock, we have a 3:1 ratio. Which means if we shorten the shock stroke by, oh let's say 10mm, it will lower the suspension by 30mm. So we can get a big gain in seat height from a small change in shock length (hurray math, woohoo!). Another plus to this method is that you have just taken the shock apart and replaced the seals and fluid, basically rebuilding that old shock. Shockingly (wow, look who dropped a bad pun) most suspension shops will perform this service on the shock for about the same amount of money as that lowering link! Now you have a fresh shock, and oh while it is apart you can change the spring if you need to.

But the shock on the NX is a sealed unit not meant to be taken apart and serviced! It's not impossible, and really good suspension shops can do it by cutting it open and welding it back together. It gets pricey though, and by the time you spend that much money that really good suspension shop could have built you a better custom unit, which is a fine solution.

What if you are trying to lower an NX on a budget though and can't afford that $500-600 custom shock with 5 adjustments and 3 remote reservoirs? Well on shocks that have a U shackle at the bottom you can often swap out the U with a shorter one. On the NX this IS possible !
It takes some work, you need to remove the shock and take it apart to get this thingy off:
(ooOOOoo, Showa)

...and replace it with something like this:


Which you can buy for about 140 of these


Umm, wow, and for all that it looks to only change the shock length about 5mm, maybe a smidge more. Hmm, I have and idea, since I have a guy who is an expert welder on call why don't I take him this


cut it, make the ears 5mm shorter, and weld it back together. If you don't have an expert welder buddy you may have to go to a good welding shop and pay them like $25 or so to do it. My guy is a friend, and he heats with wood so I trade him a couple of these

every year for a bunch of small fab jobs. It's a very convenient arraingment, and I have heard that some welders will also work for
.

Now 5-6mm (about the diameter of the hole for the bolt) is about all it looks like we can get without causing interference (parts hitting other parts) as the suspension goes up and down from all those cool freestyle MX tricks Mala Bunny plans on doing with her new NX. We know that will translate to 15-18mm at the seat, but I think Mala B. will need more than that. Hmmm,what to do...

Hey as long as welder-dude is cutting and making sparks, why don't we take him this thingy

...and have him cut it and make it a little bit longer. Yes that means we have to be mindful of the leverage demon, and battle the dreaded horde of Maths again, but honestly Mala B. is unlikely to do any triple back flips (shocker, I know), and for the intended use of the bike we should be able to adjust the preload enough to compensate and make sure she sticks the landing when doing a knack-knack. We will probably end up making this about 5mm longer, and between the two mods get the rear down enough for her.

Important note! If you choose to use these ideas to lower an NX650 remeber these are suspension components! If they break while riding some really bad shit will happen, and it will probably look like this:




So for the love of Baldy make sure you get the welding done by someone with real skill and knowledge!

Welds that look like this


are OK for your garden arbor or your kid's 9th grade shop class bird feeder hanger. NOT for suspension components!
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:32 PM   #764
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Wow! read this thread front to back once I measured my inseam at 32" and got thinking a KLR or a DR650 is going to be too tall, turned here for other options and saw some of the places you girls took your bikes, crazy! especially that cliff climbing shot.
My uncle tells me if I wanna go trail riding I need an ATV and no bike will go where he goes. I would love to see jen stop by and embarrass him thoroughly :)
Now I really want to get a more trail oriented machine...
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:49 AM   #765
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...a DR650 is going to be too tall...
The DR650 is one of the lowest options for a 650 dualsport (that and the low F650)

I have a 30" inseam and rod a DR for years: mine was on the lower setting (sleeve on the shock turned) and it worked just fine. The seat width is actually what makes a huge difference
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