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Old 03-31-2011, 08:53 PM   #1
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Just ran out of gas on my MIG....what to do?

Hey all,

I was just knocking up a set of pannier racks for the new rig and ran out of gas on my MIG welder. I have never paid for gas for it or hired a bottle, it was just what was left over from my dad owning it.

They want $200 a year rental for the bottle and then like $160 more for the actual gas. I have this old bottle here that obviously belonged to them a long time ago but we haven't paid rental on it for many many years.

Ideas??
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:55 PM   #2
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Just use gasless wire, welded my racks okay.
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Old 03-31-2011, 09:03 PM   #3
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Ahh thats easy, get a job with a company with an account at BOC.

Works for me.
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With a title like that...

....my first thought was....

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....my first thought was....

Pull the fucking ejector, quick!
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Old 03-31-2011, 09:23 PM   #6
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gday joe, sounds a lot for rent $200 , im shoure i dont pay that much maybe you could do well enough with a smaller bottle think there like $100 yearly.
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Old 03-31-2011, 09:34 PM   #7
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Hi there,if you go to BOC they will want the bottle back and may try to charge you for back rental,find somebody else and get it filled or buy a small disposalable bottle from Repco ,around $60 to $70 a bottle when it's empty throw it away and get another one,depends on how much you think you might need it.Also there is a company in Sydney that sell you the bottle then you just get it refilled,unfortunately none in Melbourne,I found this out on ebay seller worth a try they might have a distributor near QLD,cheers Nev
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:10 PM   #8
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I don't think one of those little cylinders will fit my MIG setup with the big regulator etc.
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:25 PM   #9
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Hey all,

I was just knocking up a set of pannier racks for the new rig and ran out of gas on my MIG welder. I have never paid for gas for it or hired a bottle, it was just what was left over from my dad owning it.

They want $200 a year rental for the bottle and then like $160 more for the actual gas. I have this old bottle here that obviously belonged to them a long time ago but we haven't paid rental on it for many many years.

Ideas??
I'm with Outback jack I'd go fluxcore wire. If the bottle is with BOC they introduced bottle tracking using the bar code a couple of years ago. I doubt anyone will want the swap hassle. I know I wouldn't. From experience I doubt they even know you've got it. You didn't tell them who you are did you.......
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:42 PM   #10
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Nah, it was an old bottle from a local supplier and they lost track of it a long time ago.

I am just going to go with a little bottle of C02 with monthly rental. It will cost me $50 for the month. I probably only use the welder four times a year. So will just get a bottle when I have a few jobs build up.
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Old 03-31-2011, 11:13 PM   #11
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from Repco ,around $60 to $70 a bottle

Yes you can buy an initial kit which has everything to setup prices vary from $110 which is what I paid on special to $160 normal,once you have the kit you can get different gases and wires for different jobs,cheers Nev
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:40 AM   #12
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I just go the fluxcore wire as well easier but you will get a bit more spatter
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Old 04-01-2011, 01:27 AM   #13
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Old 04-01-2011, 01:42 AM   #14
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Go gasless flux core. Plenty small projects use 1 or 2 5kg rolls a year (not them wee ones) Hell i built a front end loader for my 40hp tractor and all is good! Bugger pulling the MMA out unless its a heavy job


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Old 04-01-2011, 01:51 AM   #15
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G'Day Joe.

You might want to inquire if your old mans account is still active.

For the amount of use foreseen I would go gasless. It looks a bit messy after a weld just clean the weld zone better before you weld.

A 5kg roll cost a bit ($ 75.00 maybe) but no bottle rental or contents cost.

When its not in use or not going to be used for a while then take the roll out of the welder and wrap it up. Prevents oxidising. It'll run better when you do need to use it.

BOC bottle rental is $46.60 on ARGOSHIELD UNIVERSAL a quarter on a
G size. Contents $197.00
A G size will hold roughly 3 times an E size. E size rental is about $38.00 quarter.

Before you load gassless wire give the liner a good clean out and you might have to change the drive roller to gasless. ( not all machines need this)

Hope thats some help
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