Just ran out of gas on my MIG....what to do?

Joe Watson · 03-31-2011, 08:53 PM

Hey all,

I was just knocking up a set of pannier racks for the new rig and ran out of gas on my MIG welder. I have never paid for gas for it or hired a bottle, it was just what was left over from my dad owning it.

They want $200 a year rental for the bottle and then like $160 more for the actual gas. I have this old bottle here that obviously belonged to them a long time ago but we haven't paid rental on it for many many years.

Ideas??

outback jack · 03-31-2011, 08:55 PM

Just use gasless wire, welded my racks okay.

PBee · 03-31-2011, 09:03 PM

Ahh thats easy, get a job with a company with an account at BOC.

Works for me.

Ducatijim · 03-31-2011, 09:12 PM

....my first thought was....

Pull the fucking ejector, quick!

PBee · 03-31-2011, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducatijim

....my first thought was....

Pull the fucking ejector, quick!

Ooo..you is funny...

getaway · 03-31-2011, 09:23 PM

gday joe, sounds a lot for rent $200 , im shoure i dont pay that much maybe you could do well enough with a smaller bottle think there like $100 yearly.

saintell · 03-31-2011, 09:34 PM

Hi there,if you go to BOC they will want the bottle back and may try to charge you for back rental,find somebody else and get it filled or buy a small disposalable bottle from Repco ,around $60 to $70 a bottle when it's empty throw it away and get another one,depends on how much you think you might need it.Also there is a company in Sydney that sell you the bottle then you just get it refilled,unfortunately none in Melbourne,I found this out on ebay seller worth a try they might have a distributor near QLD,cheers Nev

Joe Watson · 03-31-2011, 10:10 PM

I don't think one of those little cylinders will fit my MIG setup with the big regulator etc.

ferals5 · 03-31-2011, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Watson

Hey all,

I was just knocking up a set of pannier racks for the new rig and ran out of gas on my MIG welder. I have never paid for gas for it or hired a bottle, it was just what was left over from my dad owning it.

They want $200 a year rental for the bottle and then like $160 more for the actual gas. I have this old bottle here that obviously belonged to them a long time ago but we haven't paid rental on it for many many years.

Ideas??

I'm with Outback jack I'd go fluxcore wire. If the bottle is with BOC they introduced bottle tracking using the bar code a couple of years ago. I doubt anyone will want the swap hassle. I know I wouldn't. From experience I doubt they even know you've got it. You didn't tell them who you are did you.......

Joe Watson · 03-31-2011, 10:42 PM

Nah, it was an old bottle from a local supplier and they lost track of it a long time ago.

I am just going to go with a little bottle of C02 with monthly rental. It will cost me $50 for the month. I probably only use the welder four times a year. So will just get a bottle when I have a few jobs build up.

saintell · 03-31-2011, 11:13 PM

Yes you can buy an initial kit which has everything to setup prices vary from $110 which is what I paid on special to $160 normal,once you have the kit you can get different gases and wires for different jobs,cheers Nev

gavo · 04-01-2011, 12:40 AM

I just go the fluxcore wire as well easier but you will get a bit more spatter

FatBoyCrash · 04-01-2011, 01:27 AM

All the above... but whatever you do, DO NOT be tempted to go Air Liquide!!!!! Don't ask how I know.....

bmwkurt · 04-01-2011, 01:42 AM

Go gasless flux core. Plenty small projects use 1 or 2 5kg rolls a year (not them wee ones) Hell i built a front end loader for my 40hp tractor and all is good! Bugger pulling the MMA out unless its a heavy job

Kurt

gateman · 04-01-2011, 01:51 AM

G'Day Joe.

You might want to inquire if your old mans account is still active.

For the amount of use foreseen I would go gasless. It looks a bit messy after a weld just clean the weld zone better before you weld.

A 5kg roll cost a bit ($ 75.00 maybe) but no bottle rental or contents cost.

When its not in use or not going to be used for a while then take the roll out of the welder and wrap it up. Prevents oxidising. It'll run better when you do need to use it.

BOC bottle rental is $46.60 on ARGOSHIELD UNIVERSAL a quarter on a
G size. Contents $197.00
A G size will hold roughly 3 times an E size. E size rental is about $38.00 quarter.

Before you load gassless wire give the liner a good clean out and you might have to change the drive roller to gasless. ( not all machines need this)

Hope thats some help

03-31-2011, 08:53 PM	#1
Joe Watson ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast, Qld, Aus. Oddometer: 1,003	Just ran out of gas on my MIG....what to do? Hey all, I was just knocking up a set of pannier racks for the new rig and ran out of gas on my MIG welder. I have never paid for gas for it or hired a bottle, it was just what was left over from my dad owning it. They want $200 a year rental for the bottle and then like $160 more for the actual gas. I have this old bottle here that obviously belonged to them a long time ago but we haven't paid rental on it for many many years. Ideas?? __________________ My WR250R Build Log is HERE! Ride Reports: Fraser and Cooloola, New WRR ride, Coast to Corner 2009, Postie Ride, Noccundra and back, Longest Day Ride 2008, Group ride to Taroom,

03-31-2011, 08:55 PM	#2
outback jack Beastly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Central outback QLD. Oddometer: 5,531	Just use gasless wire, welded my racks okay. __________________ There's something ugly about a NEW bike on a trailer. CCC ride Cattle, Coal & Cane or Captains Crossing & Castlemaine. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...1#post17025601

03-31-2011, 09:03 PM	#3
PBee Farkle Finder Joined: Jun 2009 Location: Kersbrook.SA. Oddometer: 5,594	Ahh thats easy, get a job with a company with an account at BOC. Works for me. __________________ QUORN SCHNITZEL CLUB Est 2011 When in the FLINDERS RANGES SA stay at the ANGORICHINA Village

03-31-2011, 09:12 PM	#4
Ducatijim Hopeless Poseuer! Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Reporoa NZ Oddometer: 240	With a title like that... ....my first thought was.... Pull the fucking ejector, quick! __________________ Buell Uylsses...Yes! I am no gynaecologist, but I would be happy to take a look.............................................. ......................................

03-31-2011, 09:23 PM	#6
getaway gnarly traveler Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Lake Cargelligo central nsw Australia Oddometer: 109	gday joe, sounds a lot for rent $200 , im shoure i dont pay that much maybe you could do well enough with a smaller bottle think there like $100 yearly. __________________ the only thing constant is change

03-31-2011, 09:34 PM	#7
saintell Monarchs #30 Joined: May 2008 Location: Doveton Oddometer: 249	Hi there,if you go to BOC they will want the bottle back and may try to charge you for back rental,find somebody else and get it filled or buy a small disposalable bottle from Repco ,around $60 to $70 a bottle when it's empty throw it away and get another one,depends on how much you think you might need it.Also there is a company in Sydney that sell you the bottle then you just get it refilled,unfortunately none in Melbourne,I found this out on ebay seller worth a try they might have a distributor near QLD,cheers Nev

03-31-2011, 10:10 PM	#8
Joe Watson ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast, Qld, Aus. Oddometer: 1,003	I don't think one of those little cylinders will fit my MIG setup with the big regulator etc. __________________ My WR250R Build Log is HERE! Ride Reports: Fraser and Cooloola, New WRR ride, Coast to Corner 2009, Postie Ride, Noccundra and back, Longest Day Ride 2008, Group ride to Taroom,

03-31-2011, 10:42 PM	#10
Joe Watson ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast, Qld, Aus. Oddometer: 1,003	Nah, it was an old bottle from a local supplier and they lost track of it a long time ago. I am just going to go with a little bottle of C02 with monthly rental. It will cost me $50 for the month. I probably only use the welder four times a year. So will just get a bottle when I have a few jobs build up. __________________ My WR250R Build Log is HERE! Ride Reports: Fraser and Cooloola, New WRR ride, Coast to Corner 2009, Postie Ride, Noccundra and back, Longest Day Ride 2008, Group ride to Taroom,

03-31-2011, 11:13 PM	#11
saintell Monarchs #30 Joined: May 2008 Location: Doveton Oddometer: 249	from Repco ,around $60 to $70 a bottle Yes you can buy an initial kit which has everything to setup prices vary from $110 which is what I paid on special to $160 normal,once you have the kit you can get different gases and wires for different jobs,cheers Nev

04-01-2011, 12:40 AM	#12
gavo Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2010 Location: Gympie QLD Oddometer: 1,274	I just go the fluxcore wire as well easier but you will get a bit more spatter

04-01-2011, 01:27 AM	#13
FatBoyCrash Buckle up SpankY!! Joined: May 2006 Location: Emerald Oztralia Oddometer: 1,111	All the above... but whatever you do, DO NOT be tempted to go Air Liquide!!!!! Don't ask how I know..... __________________ Built In Shed Because chrome don't get ya home.

04-01-2011, 01:42 AM	#14
bmwkurt BM is gone tt600r is here Joined: Sep 2005 Oddometer: 295	+2 Gasless Go gasless flux core. Plenty small projects use 1 or 2 5kg rolls a year (not them wee ones) Hell i built a front end loader for my 40hp tractor and all is good! Bugger pulling the MMA out unless its a heavy job Kurt bmwkurt screwed with this post 04-01-2011 at 01:46 AM Reason: add MMA

04-01-2011, 01:51 AM	#15
gateman Studly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2009 Oddometer: 843	G'Day Joe. You might want to inquire if your old mans account is still active. For the amount of use foreseen I would go gasless. It looks a bit messy after a weld just clean the weld zone better before you weld. A 5kg roll cost a bit ($ 75.00 maybe) but no bottle rental or contents cost. When its not in use or not going to be used for a while then take the roll out of the welder and wrap it up. Prevents oxidising. It'll run better when you do need to use it. BOC bottle rental is $46.60 on ARGOSHIELD UNIVERSAL a quarter on a G size. Contents $197.00 A G size will hold roughly 3 times an E size. E size rental is about $38.00 quarter. Before you load gassless wire give the liner a good clean out and you might have to change the drive roller to gasless. ( not all machines need this) Hope thats some help

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