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Old 05-14-2011, 12:11 PM   #406
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It's not a critical need (for me). It's just nice to have studied the route a bit before hand.

Don't sweat it if it's too much work.
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:13 PM   #407
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So now I have a XR600R with a 4 gallon tank that is ready to go...Wondering what I should do? The XT can hang pretty well on dirt and is a bit more road worthy but might have less of a range (depending on the wrist of course). The XR would be loads more fun on the dirt though. I guess the dirt:asphalt ratio will be the deciding factor.
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:29 PM   #408
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Alfredo: Remember this is more of a "scenic dirt road" ride. You'll have to deviate from the route for "dirtier fun". I'd take the more comfortable of the two... or more importantly the one with the longer fuel range
cripes if I fill my fuel tanks my bike will be near 600 lbs

MOST of this route could be done in a subaru (assuming you skip the africa bridge segment - which if it is locked we'll all be skipping).

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Old 05-14-2011, 12:45 PM   #409
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edit: see below

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Old 05-14-2011, 12:49 PM   #410
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That link and sign in works fine, I can see the files but did not download them yet.
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Old 05-14-2011, 01:02 PM   #411
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DAY 1 - FILES!

There are two files in the cloud drive - one is the KML one is the GPX.

KML = google earth path file
GPX = GPS tracks file

This is the DAY 1 route WITHOUT the african bridge.
I will add a seperate african bridge file.

Notes:

Steamboat to Meeker = 105 miles (get gas here!)
Steamboat to Elk Springs = 168 miles (no gas in elk springs)
Steamboat to Echo Park camping = 215 miles.

If you do the math - we are now at camp with 110 miles on our current tank of gas... and the next gas is a ways away

Google ranks it 9 hours non-stop at the speedlimit.

Link to files:

www.amazon.com/clouddrive

Login: adv@motogeek.com
Password: dinosaur

For those using maps:
You can use the google earth KML file above or the google maps file below to make your maps:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...0dc4576c410bd5

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Old 05-14-2011, 01:06 PM   #412
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Please let me know if the files work ok

I highly recommend anyone using a GPS to test these tracks asap - some GPSs can NOT handle this many points so editing may be necessary.
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Old 05-14-2011, 01:14 PM   #413
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DAY 1 - ALT FILES ARE UP!

There are two more files in the cloud drive - one is the KML one is the GPX.

They are titled: Day 1 - Alt - Africa Bridge

This is the alternate route over the Africa Bridge described above *if* it is unlocked.

Riders using maps will have to make their own maps/notes using these files in combination with my detailed descriptions/photos posted above.
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Old 05-14-2011, 01:15 PM   #414
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....at this point I need to know who has the *shortest* fuel range.

If your range is under 200 miles - you really should consider carrying extra fuel.
In the past I've used a "dromedary" bag from REI (10 liters = $40 ) but you can do what you want... wine bladders/gas cans/gatorade bottles/sag wagon/whatever.

We need to get everyone the maximum feasible fuel range *or* we are going to have to detour into Utah for fuel.

Anyone have any requests for day two's routing?

Wine Bladder Refueling (Viola-tor):

My Dromedary bag:

Rotopax (mommers)

...or just a huge arse tank (GnarlyKarle)

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Old 05-14-2011, 01:48 PM   #415
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This is the metropolis otherwise known as Elk Springs.

Don't blink or you'll miss it; you need to turn onto the dirt here to head for the Yampa Bench





If you see this guy there... wake him up:

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Old 05-14-2011, 02:18 PM   #416
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Final Africa Bridge reference:

Here are the "two bridge" routes on a map together.

The yellow line is the Africa Bridge route (if open).
If not, the red line is the main road route.



Full size: http://topgeek.smugmug.com/Adventure...H/0/O/map7.jpg

The BLUE line is a route I'm going to explore if the Africa bridge is closed... it is a way back to the other side of the Africa Bridge.
I do not know if it is gated.
I do not know if it is passable.
It does look like it has some gnarly exposure along the river at one point.

Even on satellite it looks like it might be washed out with rock slides (it looks like u-turns have been occuring on either end of the potential washout)... add in the "record floods" this year and who knows.. but if time allows I'm going to find out





If you zoom in with google earth you'll also notice there is another bridge across the river between these two routes.
It looks like you have to pass through someone's yard to get to it though

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Old 05-14-2011, 02:48 PM   #417
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After Elk Springs at first you will be on "just another dirt road". Then you will come to the site of an old forest fire and appear at the top of some switchbacks that descend you onto the Yampa Bench.



As you get going down the Bench... the road and the scenery is incredible. I highly recommend slowing down and enjoying it. It will be the most scenic part of this ride. I recommend taking every turnout and exploring a bit.

DEFINITELY stop at the Harding Hole Overlook - do NOT blow by this sign. It's only 20 seconds of a detour and it is a site you will remember

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Old 05-14-2011, 03:04 PM   #418
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Here is an iso map of the Yampa Bench. Looking west.

The switchbacks at the bottom is where my bike is parked in the photo above.

When you are at the switchbacks, if you wanted to you could haul arse and be at the campground in about an hour. In reality you are going to want to take your time and spend a few hours travelling this, enjoying the views and taking photos.

I mention the time scale to give you a reference if you find yourself at this point late in the day and are wondering if you are going to make it before dark.

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Old 05-14-2011, 03:06 PM   #419
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Harding Hole Overview.

Here's the turnout according to google earth:

Fact of Interest:
When standing on the lip of the overlook you are at 5800 feet.
The river below is at 5193 feet.

That is 600 foot cliff you are standing on.





the monolith directly across from you is 6000 feet - 800 feet higher than the river below.
It is exactly 1/2 of a mile away from you.


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Old 05-14-2011, 03:27 PM   #420
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Final Notes for day 1:

- From the Harding Hole Overlook to Echo Park campground is 8 miles as the crow flies.... that said
-It is 9 miles from the Harding Hole Overlook to the Echo Park turn off.
-It is 3.6 miles from the turn off to the campground.
-This stretch of road is 15mph - 30mph riding.

(again, I'm mentioning distances and speeds to give you an idea of how you are doing because it will be late in the day - if you are stressing sun set this gives you some idea of how fast you need to go - if you are early.. stop & smell the sage brush )

The turn off for Echo Park is clearly marked from what I remember.. there is a sign saying Echo Park to the right.

Note I put a compass on this graphic for orientation as I faced it "as it comes at you" (i.e. the right turn to Echo Park)




If Echo Park is opened - you'll pass through a neat homestead.. you'll pass by some petroglyphs (worth stopping!) and you'll pass by the Whispering cave (don't make too much noise.. the camp ground can hear you ) and then you will come to the campground. You can't miss it.. it is the only thing down there (dead end).

If Echo Park is NOT open ... we'll have to wing it.
If they close the road because Echo Park is under water, it would probably be closed at this fork (you descend from this fork).
If that is the case.. we'll camp right there somewhere.

If it is partially open, we'll descend as far as we can and camp somewhere along the Echo Park road. It is an out and back so unless you have blinders on we should all easily find eachother.

Any questions about Day 1?
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