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Old 04-16-2013, 06:11 PM   #76
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How many miles on the ST you're looking at? Many have no issues such as mine, some report smoothing out with some miles. Test ride and see if it works for you.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:26 PM   #77
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Mine is super smooth... This is a very rare account...
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:09 AM   #78
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Will be looking at a 2nd hand ST today but must say I am a bit put off by this report regarding vibrations, I really dislike vibes since it makes my hands fall asleep. If I tour at around 110 km/h I do not want that!
Other than that (except the buffeting from the screen) this seems to be a cracker of a bike!
Also looking at the new DL650 & KTM1190R (almost double the money compared to a 2nd hand ST!).

As one of the few who raised hell about vibes, I'll put in my two cents. The more I ride my S10 the smoother it gets. Also, it seems to run smoother in cooler temperatures although a lot of bikes do that. When I first purchased my bike it was summer and the vibes were killing me. I honestly was concerned I might be doing damage to my nerves it was that extreme. The only thing that kept me going was others who said their bikes smoothed out with time. They were right. I currently have about 15,000 miles on mine and it is a completely different machine. Is it Goldwing or K1600gt smooth? No, it's a huge twin. The engine has character but vibes are no longer an issue for me. Also, I can say that 110 km/h is right in the engine's sweet spot. It is smooth as glass at that speed.
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:37 AM   #79
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The bike I`m looking at has 4000 miles on the clock.
Looks ok but maybe the paint work look a bit older.
Price is reasonable but... I also like the new DL650 which I can get brand new plus warranty. Choices....
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:46 AM   #80
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The bike I`m looking at has 4000 miles on the clock.
Looks ok but maybe the paint work look a bit older.
Price is reasonable but... I also like the new DL650 which I can get brand new plus warranty. Choices....
I came from a DL1000. The V-Stroms are great bikes with some upgrades. In America, the suggested selling price on a new S10 is several thousand dollars more than the Suzukis. IMHO that money is well spent. The S10 has much better brakes, suspension, electronics, forks, etc.. I will say that a guy at work has 250k miles on his DL1000 with minimal problems. The V-Stroms are known for their reliability but I think in time so will the S10. Look at the main S10 thread, there is mostly talk of farkles and idle chit chat. Not really anyone with serious issues yet.
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Old 04-17-2013, 12:14 PM   #81
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I came from a DL1000. The V-Stroms are great bikes with some upgrades. In America, the suggested selling price on a new S10 is several thousand dollars more than the Suzukis. IMHO that money is well spent. The S10 has much better brakes, suspension, electronics, forks, etc.. I will say that a guy at work has 250k miles on his DL1000 with minimal problems. The V-Stroms are known for their reliability but I think in time so will the S10. Look at the main S10 thread, there is mostly talk of farkles and idle chit chat. Not really anyone with serious issues yet.

Whatever its worth, Mother Suzuki is not exactly thriving at this time. just sayin.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:45 PM   #82
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The ST I`m looking at has been involved in a minor incident which involved his insurance company, can hardly notice that something happened to the bike.
It is probably why it is a little bit cheaper than other bikes that age.
No doubt that the ST is reliable but you never really know when you buy 2nd hand and the warranty has ended, probably will take it for a spin and evaluate the situation again.
This bike is sold privately which means I can not trade in my current DL650 which means I got 4 bikes in my garage until it will be sold.
Start to understand why people keep their bikes since you do not get much for them 2nd hand.
This is an excellent site by the way!
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:00 PM   #83
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The ST I`m looking at has been involved in a minor incident which involved his insurance company, can hardly notice that something happened to the bike.
It is probably why it is a little bit cheaper than other bikes that age.
No doubt that the ST is reliable but you never really know when you buy 2nd hand and the warranty has ended, probably will take it for a spin and evaluate the situation again.
This bike is sold privately which means I can not trade in my current DL650 which means I got 4 bikes in my garage until it will be sold.
Start to understand why people keep their bikes since you do not get much for them 2nd hand.
This is an excellent site by the way!
Cheers.
I hope its majorly discounted.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:52 PM   #84
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Was thinking, if the owner allow me to take it to a good workshop (do they really exist?) for a thorough check up (that I pay for) and all is good according to the mechanic, it all should be good?
Would love the new KTM1190 but this slightly used Yamaha is less than half price, why would you risk damage to a very expensive bike when you can get a cheaper but still capable one? Love the DL650`s but I`m convinced the bigger Yammie can be as good or better except fuel consumption. Can I get a slightly 2nd hand ST for just a fraction more than a new DL650 why not?
Time will tell.
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Old 02-12-2015, 11:44 PM   #85
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Well, any updates?
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:23 AM   #86
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I gotta say that with 2k miles on my ST the only time I feel any vibes is under heavy acceleration below 2.5K RPM. Nothing at speed. Actually this is the most comfortable long distance bike I have owned. YMMV.
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Old 02-13-2015, 01:02 PM   #87
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Well, any updates?
My bike is in its fifth year. It still wears out tires, and makes the oil go black and uses fuel. Can't find any solutions to those problems yet.
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Old 02-13-2015, 01:59 PM   #88
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My bikes the same age as Grahams with 53000 k's. Had no problems, runs fantastic and a pleasure to tour on.
Just add fuel and go
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:51 PM   #89
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Well, any updates?
I'm not sure Red Dust is still here or not, but the story with his purchase was not very rosy. He bought the Super Tenere, not sure if it was the one discussed in this thread or not, but had a major reaction to the "vibes" and has tried everything known to man, and even a few other things, and at last report was still fighting. Last thing I read he was getting the 2014 clutch basket to see if that would resolve the issue. I never read the outcome of that.
On my Tenere, what vibration is there is just normal for a twin, and I think it's a fantastic motorcycle.
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