Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > Regional forums > Alaska
User Name
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-24-2011, 01:13 PM   #1
ThatGuy OP
ThatGuy's Avatar
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Oddometer: 5,350
Road from Kennicott to Cordova?

So I have recently learned of a trail running from Kennicott to Cordova seen via air by a pilot. Call my buddy who works for the RRPD who states there is an old rail line but doesn't think its passable.

I did stumble upon Alaska Hwy #10, this:

That and seeing that the Miles Glacier Bridge( has been repaired leads me to believe a trail of sorts really exits. I did talk to a buddy who is from there and he confirms it.

So is there? Anyone been on it? When I go to Kennicottlater in teh summer I will check it out as I want to ride to Cordova. If it isn't perhaps we need to map it.....
Disclaimer: The writer does not represent any organization, employer, entity or other individual. The views expressed are those only of the writer. In the case of a sarcastic, facetious, nonsensical, stirring-the-pot, controversial or devil's advocate-type post, the views expressed may not even reflect those of the writer.
ThatGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2011, 01:32 PM   #2
Pope's Nose
legion's Avatar
Joined: Jan 2003
Location: Alaska
Oddometer: 12,904
I think Wally got shut down when he tried to open that road back up. Too much crap being sluffed into the river.
legion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2011, 02:21 PM   #3
Alaskan Adventurer
AlaskaSolstice's Avatar
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Anchorage
Oddometer: 127
road to cordova

It's been many years, 10 or 15 maybe, but I had heard back then that four-wheelers were using the old road/trail, between Chitina and Cordova. Is that the one? I've been on it for several miles south of Chitina, but that's all. I'm not sure if the bridge across O'brien Creek is still there any more.
AlaskaSolstice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2011, 03:53 PM   #4
Pope's Nose
legion's Avatar
Joined: Jan 2003
Location: Alaska
Oddometer: 12,904
I bet a nickel either Hobo or Alcan Jack would know. This is their back yard.
legion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2011, 04:13 PM   #5
Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2004
Location: Anchorage, formerly Spenard (hub of the universe)
Oddometer: 5,878
I was down it a few miles past the "proceed & die sign" last summer... got a bit rough for fully loaded GS's. Not sure how far it goes now... I've been about 20 miles or so. The O'Brian bridge is still intact, but smaller now so no truck traffic... which is good because the trail is much narrower in spots that it was even a few years ago. Ahtna owns a lot of the land down there and don't want people on it..... Wally apparently dug up some ancient burial sites in the big push to open the road.

For those that don't know there was a railroad between Cordova and Kennicot from 1911 to the late '30's... the rails were pulled in the 40's. Read "The Copper Spike" for a really good history of the area.
Beezer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2011, 04:32 PM   #6
Tom S
Can I ride it?
Tom S's Avatar
Joined: Oct 2004
Location: Anchorage Alaska
Oddometer: 4,546
I thought we went over this a few years ago & it was determined that you couldn’t get thru.
Tom S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2011, 04:50 PM   #7
Tom S
Can I ride it?
Tom S's Avatar
Joined: Oct 2004
Location: Anchorage Alaska
Oddometer: 4,546
I don’t think this one is what I was thinking of, but...

Originally Posted by GSLad View Post
There is another road out of Chitina that goes toward Cordova. It is a fun gravel road, also on an old rr bed. You could probably ride it about 25 miles back in, before you come to a bigger 'adventure' river crossing. It runs along the Copper River, and has some great views. It also has several tunnels through the mountainside. One tunnel curves, so you can't see light at the far end when you start in. Bears like to wait for tourists in the tunnels.
Tom S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2011, 05:20 PM   #8
Tom S
Can I ride it?
Tom S's Avatar
Joined: Oct 2004
Location: Anchorage Alaska
Oddometer: 4,546
Then there's this from 2004. May be the one I had in mind.
Originally Posted by akrider View Post
Years and years ago I did part of that ride on a dirt bike (KTM 250). It was early spring and we got stopped by a wash out/rock slide area that we could'nt get around. What I remember from the ride is that I would not consider it on a GS. But then again I would'nt consider riding across Jim Creek, or any of the other things Hacky does on a GS.

Hacky your the point man on this one. Feel free to give it a try and then report back to the gruvers. I'll wait here for your report.

Helicopter back up may be needed for this trip.

Ace and the GlobalDude have been missing for months now. Come out and play kids we miss you!
Tom S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2011, 07:15 PM   #9
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: Alaska
Oddometer: 85
I heard that some local riders were going through on snowmachines a couple of years ago. When the water is running there are quite a few slides and washouts.
Hobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2011, 03:16 PM   #10
Rode hard
akkurt's Avatar
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Wasilla "Palenville" Alaska
Oddometer: 188
Say when, and I'll be there...
95 1100GS (RED), 05 Dakar


2010 Ride Reports

My Photo Albums

**Blessed is the man who wants what he already has** ~Max Rothschild
akkurt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2011, 05:42 PM   #11
AlaskanMudder's Avatar
Joined: Apr 2011
Oddometer: 114
I have a good friend of mine that grew up in Cordova and goes back and visits often. I spoke to him about this at length. He said the trail is fine out of cordova past the million dollar bridge and then there are some deep water crossings. Once you get past there, the alders are super thick and there are some caves that are caved in. He states that he is 99% sure it is NOT passible. I would be interested in an attempt anyhow, I have been thinking about doing it for a number of years. I think it would be a great adventure! (just not during reds!!)

He said he does the run up directly on the river in the winter with snowmachines. If you were to hire a boat to run you to/from the million dollar bridge to a put in point you have to find somewhere upriver.
AlaskanMudder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2011, 09:29 PM   #12
Is it cold in here?
Frostbit's Avatar
Joined: Dec 2007
Location: Eagle River, Alaska
Oddometer: 1,045
At the Cordova end you can pretty much count on ample rain...

About a mile after the Million Dollar Bridge the road is washed away in many places and over grown with alders where is does exist...

And be aware that the Copper River can rise very fast...

It wasn't doable the last time that we tried it but given the oppertunity... I'd try it again.
It’s easier to have a strong opinion with less information.

Check out forum.
Frostbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2011, 04:59 PM   #13
MMNORTH's Avatar
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: Vancouver WA
Oddometer: 59
" The Copper Highway Gap"

Looked at it many times by Helo over the years, Frostbit's description is acurate, tracks used to wash out every year when the railroad used it. Never did see it dry.
MMNORTH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2011, 07:09 PM   #14
Unsafe at any speed
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Wherethewildthingsare, AK
Oddometer: 411
Wally Hickel's attempt at rebuilding the Copper River Highway (20 years ago) ended at the Allen River, approximately 10 miles past the Million Dollar Bridge. In dry conditions, a small dual sport motorcycle could probably get that far from the Cordova end with some effort. If you enjoy taking a bike through thick stands of alders.

Frostbit's photo shows a washed out area that is sometimes high with water around 1.5-2 miles past the bridge. Riding any size bike is easy until that point.

Beyond the Allen River, a gap of many miles (maybe 50) exists where no work has been done along the old rail roadbed until reaching the other end, downstream from Chitina.

I can't speak from any personal experience beyond the Allen River but I suspect that an expedition style motorcycle "ride" could be made from one end to the other. A basic equipment list would look something like this:

Rokon motorcycle
Spare chainsaw
Spare winch
Many feet of rope
Cached fuel for saw and bike
Bear gun and/or pepper spray...lots of it
Several weeks of your summer (probably late summer, when water levels are lower)

Taking the ferry is likely to be a little easier, especially with a pillion.

Rackemcrackem screwed with this post 04-26-2011 at 07:30 PM
Rackemcrackem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2011, 07:46 PM   #15
Muddy Gruver
AKmud's Avatar
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
Oddometer: 958
Maybe we should organize a work weekend and clean the trail up to make it passable.... It would be a good excuse to get out.

(anyone know how to build a bridge?)
AKmud is offline   Reply With Quote


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Times are GMT -7.   It's 02:09 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2015