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Old 02-20-2013, 02:18 PM   #466
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The V7 Classic is to Guzzi as the New Bonneville is to Triumph.


A V7 Classic with Hepco Becker bags pushes every one of my buttons....
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:24 PM   #467
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Ok I have to chime in here....

There really should be a few more choices as far as standards go..... I LOVE the Bonneville. The W650/800 is awesome and I wish I could find one. The guzzi is beautiful as well.....

I would have bought a CB1300 in a heartbeat if it come over the pond and I still may buy a CB1100 (see below!)

I love standards and have owned some really good ones.

I currently own 2 1975 CB400F's - I absolutely love these little bikes.

My blue one is in decent shape....



I used to have a gorgeous CB1100F - to this day it was the nicest one I have ever seen. It broke my heart to sell it a few years back but it was going to need some work and I just didnt have the money



most recently I went an did a Triumph test ride day and I rode the Scrambler and the Speed Triple. I LOVED them both - and I looked for a used Scrambler for months and months and whenever they pop up, they are sold before you can even call the guy.
That's when I found a Speedy Triple that the guy had literally bought every single LSL and Birt Customs after market part for - I had to buy it.



In my mind the Speed Triple isn't a standard in so much. Of course it's a standard by the "rules" of a standard but it just doesnt feel like a standard to me..... it's.... something else.....

However, I dont know if ive ever ridden anything else that's more intuitive, fun, and comfortable. Usually speed comes with a lot of compromise in the comfort department - the triple ended that.
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:58 PM   #468
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A V7 Classic with Hepco Becker bags pushes every one of my buttons....


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Old 02-20-2013, 07:17 PM   #469
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What happened to all the "Standard" Motorcycles, with a visible (and powerful) engine, neutral and comfortable seating position, normal handlebars, without tons of plastic.

You mean like this ;-)

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Old 02-20-2013, 07:27 PM   #470
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You mean like this ;-)

that is awesome!
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:40 PM   #471
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Jerry, The more you type the dumber you come off.

Here, check the ergonomics of the FZ1, FZ6, "NC700's".... And compare them to the bikes that YOU consider to be "Standard"

http://cycle-ergo.com/

While you are at it have a look at the Goldwing (another bike that YOU foolishly think is a "Standard" but is actually feet forward/low bar) then have a plate of crow and come back and edit your drivel.

Catch a clue Jerry. Standard implies a riding possition, NOT a look.

Think of it as sitting on a bar stool. (Feet are under you) sitting upright. MANY bikes fall into this. including FZ1's and Dirt Bikes.

A Gold Wing is a Feet Forward bike. (Feet are in front of you, like stting on a chair)

"Crotch Rockets" are "Rear Set bikes with Clip-ons.

Go to the site Jerry.
Proof that foot forward bikes are "better", I've fallen off of bar stools never fallen off of a chair..
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:21 PM   #472
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Just browsed this thread looking for a couple of my favorite 'nakeds', that always stop me in my tracks; they look killer in the flesh.

The Yamaha MT-01 and the MT-03. The MT-01 has been available in Canada, though the ones I've seen out in use have been in the UK and Japan. Think I even have a picture of a parked MT-03 in Melbourne.



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Old 02-20-2013, 08:24 PM   #473
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Proof that foot forward bikes are "better", I've fallen off of bar stools never fallen off of a chair..
By that logic I'd say you're happier a lot more often on a barstool.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:38 PM   #474
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I've been very pleased with the "standardness" of my Ducati Monster. When I bought it, what I was looking for was a 2-cyl bike with non-racer ergonomics, no fairings, preferably air-cooled, and with some sportiness to it. Pretty much a modern Norton Commando, but more durable and reliable and less fiddling required. Ducati created the Monster just in time, and I've been very happy with its versatility, utility, simplicity, reliability, and durability.

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I dunno, I had a Monster for a few years and sold it recently, made it closer to a standard by installing higher bars and a Sargent seat which helped a lot...but I'd still call it a naked bike rather than a standard largely because it was really lousy for two up riding, partly why I sold it...FWIW I have a '73 Norton Commando which works great two up.
Anyway, really hope the CB1100 sells well and encourages Honda and others to build more standards, I started riding waaay back in the '70's when the majority of bikes on the road were standards and love the versatility and looks.

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Old 02-20-2013, 08:54 PM   #475
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Proof that foot forward bikes are "better", I've fallen off of bar stools never fallen off of a chair..
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:28 PM   #476
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To the best of my knowledge, the last "non retro" full sized standard bike sold in the U.S. was the late great Honda CB750 Nighthawk. I don't know why they called it a Nighthawk, they should have just called it a CB750. The CB400F was actually a sport bike, before sport bikes became the hideous abominations they are today, but it is close enough to a standard to be considered one. The CB1100F, just like the CB750F, was also a sport bike in it's day, the CB750K was the standard. The mid '80s Honda CB700SC was one of the best bikes Honda ever built. It was basically a standard dressed up to look like a sportbike. Comfortable, ultra reliable, and practically maintenance free. I should have owned one but didn't.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:09 AM   #477
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I dunno, I had a Monster for a few years and sold it recently, made it closer to a standard by installing higher bars and a Sargent seat which helped a lot...but I'd still call it a naked bike rather than a standard largely because it was really lousy for two up riding, partly why I sold it...FWIW I have a '73 Norton Commando which works great two up.
Anyway, really hope the CB1100 sells well and encourages Honda and others to build more standards, I started riding waaay back in the '70's when the majority of bikes on the road were standards and love the versatility and looks.
That's the Monster's only real functional weakness -- carrying a passenger very well. I can get about 50-60 miles out of my wife on that. The bike doesn't mind a bit; it works just fine, but the passenger is less pleased. I thought for a bit about getting a better 2-up bike, but the ultimate solution for us turned out to be getting her a Monster as well.

Other than that one thing, my Monster has been outstanding at everything. Commuting, urban work, rural roads, sporting, and even (a bit of a surprise) touring. I've done multiple cross-country trips on it, and it's good (for me) for as many 600-mile days in a row as it takes to get there.

For over 19 years and 200K miles, so far.

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Old 02-21-2013, 11:45 AM   #478
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That's the Monster's only real functional weakness -- carrying a passenger very well. I can get about 50-60 miles out of my wife on that. The bike doesn't mind a bit; it works just fine, but the passenger is less pleased. I thought for a bit about getting a better 2-up bike, but the ultimate solution for us turned out to be getting her a Monster as well.

Other than that one thing, my Monster has been outstanding at everything. Commuting, urban work, rural roads, sporting, and even (a bit of a surprise) touring. I've done multiple cross-country trips on it, and it's good (for me) for as many 600-mile days in a row as it takes to get there.

For over 19 years and 200K miles, so far.

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Definitely agree on the Monster's sport touring capability for the low pipe models at least, did some on mine and it worked very well, especially after I changed the bars and seat. Would not recommend a model year with immobilizer circuitry in the leaky gauge cluster though, that was an incredibly bad design and a little rain can easily disable the bike and permanently damage the cluster, has happened to many...though the few times mine (a 2003) got wet I raced home, removed and opened the cluster and sealed it in a container w/ rice to dry it out (risotto of course ;-)...a total PITA but it worked.
Anyway, the three years I had mine it served me well and was trouble free...

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Old 02-21-2013, 12:07 PM   #479
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To the best of my knowledge, the last "non retro" full sized standard bike sold in the U.S. was the late great Honda CB750 Nighthawk. I don't know why they called it a Nighthawk,
Because it was a continuation of the "Nighthawk" CB-SC line of bikes from the 1980s.

The CB650SC Nighthawk of 1983-1985 was one kick-ass middleweight standard!
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