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Old 04-29-2011, 12:51 PM   #16
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Why the assumption that the two strategies are mutually exclusive?

Yea I agree that loud pipes piss people off, however I have never seen any scientific evidence one way or the other on there effectivenes.

I can offer anecdotal evidence of were a loud noise made a motorist aware of the presense of another. On several occasion have seen a cop trying to pull over a car with his lights but only made the car occupant aware of his presense by zapping him with his siren.

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I assume that the "loud pipes" guys have chosen loud pipes over the alternative "They can't see me and every cage is out to kill me anyway so it's my responsibility to avoid them" strategy. Sad really that someone would chose a safety plan based on pissing off everyone rather than take an active roll in their own self-preservation. But that's the world we live in . . . . . I think I'll keep my bike quiet and continue to fly under the radar.

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Old 04-29-2011, 12:53 PM   #17
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Old 04-29-2011, 01:08 PM   #18
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At one time I would have said yes, but unless your pipes can be heard over the 1.26 Giga Watt stereo systems, and soundproofing in the newer cars, your loud pipes are only heard by other bikers.

Most cagers have become immune to hearing them, so they just don't notice much anymore.
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Old 04-29-2011, 01:22 PM   #19
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true story, just this week...

I work in the city and need to walk a few blocks to catch a train out of here each evening - anyway, the street right outside my building is one of the main city streets, gets a lot of loud pipe pirates

when I walk up the first block, there's a row of cars parked next to the sidewalk and the lanes of traffic are beyond that - as I'm walking by a couple nights ago, a mother was just putting her kid in the rear carseat - I happened to look over as I'm walking up, the kid was nice and calm - just then a really loud cruiser ripped by and immediately he began screaming as all the noise shook the air - I was already passing the scene by this point but I could still hear him screaming - I can just imagine what mom was thinking after this

so yeah, this is the legacy of bike riders everywhere because people with pipes like this are making the rest of you look bad - even if you ride a quiet bike, I think it's just one of those associations people make - oh a motorcycle? hmmm, probably just another careless a-hole...
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Old 04-29-2011, 01:29 PM   #20
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Excellent point.

But I would imagine that most humans are extremely self-centered when employing tactics or devices they precieve are helping to save their life?

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Obviously the honest answer would be yes. Whether the the safety gained is out weighed by the annoyance created is a question best answered by the self centered pricks running headlight modulators.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:48 PM   #21
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Well, my own worst loud pipes experience was in rush hour on the way home. I'm in the far left lane, person with cell phone in ear in center lane to my right. Dufus with loud pipes decides to gun it up the right hand lane. Scares the shit out of the cell phone cager (who was having enough trouble driving with one hand anyway) and she swerves into my lane far enough I have to move to the shoulder to keep out of her way...
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:56 PM   #22
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I think they do. Sure doesn't hurt. I have had bikes in my blindspot, that I had to turn around to see. I realize modern cars, do block alot of sound.

I have had deer and turkey run the other way too.


I do think there is a issue with if you have the right. I think bikers need to moderate them selves a bit, lay off the throttle and keep the RPMs down at times.

But I also think we got lots of whiners out there. Loud cars have been around since the beginning.

I think riders need to show some restraint, but I also think if you don't like noise you shouldn't live on a busy street.
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Old 04-29-2011, 03:36 PM   #23
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Obviously the honest answer would be yes.

IMO it is not obvious at all.
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Old 04-29-2011, 03:38 PM   #24
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i would say they make many people want to kill you.

one day, someone might actually act upon that desire.

thus, it is quite possible that loud pipes might do quite the opposite of saving your life.

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Old 04-29-2011, 05:29 PM   #25
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I was in a Harley dealership last year eyeing a model and I ask the salesperson how loud it was in the stock factory mode, to which he replied, " Oh not really loud at all, that will be the first mod you will want to do is the pipes " to which I replied, why would I want to do that? to which the salesman says " you don't want to ride a wimpy sounding bike, do you? "
The indoctination starts at that level.
Not that there is anyting wrong with owning a Harley product
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:00 PM   #26
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We were putting headers and glasspacks on cars for a long time. Maybe EPA laws have made people forget that.
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:02 PM   #27
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As for the question, if you think being seen is good, why is not being heard good? You can argue the effectiveness, which just means we need louder bikes.
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:12 PM   #28
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Just curious what is loud? 104 decb? In the end who cares, Engine braking on a big rig is load too. My bikes have bark don't know if they are loud or not? I am flat handed here and dont really care if peoples bike are loud or not on the street! Gotta keep it quiet in the woods though!!!!!!
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:23 PM   #29
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Depends. Does the bike have ABS?

What does A Bitch Seat have to do with the dBs?.

(Unless she's screaming)
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:32 PM   #30
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No... The difference between loud pipes and stock pipes is a VERY short distance.
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