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Old 06-12-2011, 08:17 PM   #721
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wrong again. the question was "Do loud pipes save lives?" it's right at the top of the page.
Ahh, ya, thats great part of this debate.
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Old 06-12-2011, 08:45 PM   #722
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the question was "Do loud pipes save lives?"
Well if you get right down to it, no

A rider who receives any safety benefit from loud pipes needs to get a life, needing a life implies a lack of said life, if no life is present, how can it be saved by loud pipes in the first place?

Catch 22 if you ask me.

The 1 question I would like the LPSL crowd to answer,
is it really all that fun to stay at the YMCA?
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Old 06-12-2011, 08:45 PM   #723
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I suspect there are a few office jobs and students here.
Does that include students with kids? Hmmm, never thought of it as a bad thing...maybe I should reconsider my profession, eh?
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Old 06-12-2011, 08:48 PM   #724
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The 1 question I would like the LPSL crowd to answer, is it really all that fun to stay at the YMCA?
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Old 06-12-2011, 09:48 PM   #725
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When on Harley sites, I speak out against loud pipes, saying we need to use throttle control.

For those who accuse me of being a troll, I came to this site to do research before I rode to AK and Arctic Circle, in chaps. So lets measure dicks. Lots of talk of riding on cloudy days. Is that it?

so according to you, the throttle on a harley is merely a volume control?
But seriously, look me up on your way to Alaska and i'll buy you a beer and show you around.
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Old 06-12-2011, 09:59 PM   #726
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Well... I'm not sure he's up for the gay bar tour, but maybe he'll enjoy meeting the shims.
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Old 06-12-2011, 10:10 PM   #727
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Well... I'm not sure he's up for the gay bar tour, but maybe he'll enjoy meeting the shims.


i have another stupid question. what is a "shim"?
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Old 06-12-2011, 11:23 PM   #728
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Is this your safety spokesman?
Nope, just me. I do not rely an lights, horns, loud pipes or Hi-viz Alien Vomit Green to keep me safe while riding. Riding keeps me safe while riding.
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Old 06-12-2011, 11:45 PM   #729
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Old 06-13-2011, 12:26 AM   #730
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Nope, just me. I do not rely an lights, horns, loud pipes or Hi-viz Alien Vomit Green to keep me safe while riding. Riding keeps me safe while riding.
Quite right too ... you, and only you, are responsible for the safe operation of your vehicle... although as someone who also drives a car I find headlights on and hi-viz gear does make riders stand out ... but that's only if the car driver is looking.

My partner rode my FXR to the Hardley shoppe recently ... I went in the car ... my bike has moderately loud pipes ... when it was behind I did not hear it, alongside yes, in front yes for a while ... but then I turned the stereo up The only benefit to loud pipes that I can see is maybe alongside other vehicles ... they may just be aware you are there ... but I wouldn't bet the kids inheritance on it

As a safety measure I doubt it achieves anything that good roadcraft can't achieve. In fact it likely gives the rider a false sense of security.

If anyone likes loud pipes then be my guest ... I quite like the rumble ... get's my juices flowing ... almost as good as the smell of heavy hydrocarbons in the morning
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Old 06-13-2011, 12:44 AM   #731
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so according to you, the throttle on a harley is merely a volume control?
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Well yeah it is mostly. Also has some minor side effects on vehicle speed.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:42 AM   #732
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But seriously, look me up on your way to Alaska and i'll buy you a beer and show you around.
ALready been there. Looking at Newfoundland next.
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:27 AM   #733
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What do you do when ambulance goes by? I just can't imagine wandering this world, and being hurt by such things.

I cover my ears when an ambulance goes by. They are almost as bad as loud pipes...

Yes the question was do loud pipes add any benefit to your safety. 90% of the people answered they don't like them or learn to ride. That is not the question.

No one answered that until after you and a couple others were preaching the benefits of loud pipes...which by the way are bogus.

Does having people aware of you help you? Of course it does. Is it worth pissing people off, is not the question.

If you stay out of their blind spots you will be increasing the chances for a safe ride more than relying on noise makers.

But like I said, cars have been running headers and glasspacks forever. This is just a matter of you don't like the other team.
Headers are just a more free flowing exhaust manifold. They are no louder than stock manifolds and have NO bearing on the sound coming out the end of the exhaust. Even glass packs have some sound dampening unlike straight pipes. Poor choice for an example.

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I've never mentioned brands, unlike alot of people on here, I like motorcycles. I have made accusations about limp wrists and office jobs though. I suspect there are a few office jobs and students here.
Well I've never seen sport bikes or dual sports running straight pipes so who else is there that does???

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When on Harley sites, I speak out against loud pipes, saying we need to use throttle control.

For those who accuse me of being a troll, I came to this site to do research before I rode to AK and Arctic Circle, in chaps. So lets measure dicks. Lots of talk of riding on cloudy days. Is that it?
You win with the short straw. See there you go again...
You think just because YOU are doing a road trip that you are somehow better or above us?
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:12 AM   #734
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Well I've never seen sport bikes or dual sports running straight pipes so who else is there that does???
So is it loud pipes you guys don't like or just straight pipes?

A large percentage or cruiser/HD riders have loud pipes but only a small percentage actually run straight pipes. They may look like straight pipes to those not familiar with HDs, but most have some sort of baffleing.

As far as dual sports or sport bikes......a cut and past from post 611 in this thread showing comments from reviews of exhaust systems for a KLR and DRZ and in many of the descriptions I read it says the silencer portion is removable....wonder why a guy whose riding a KLR but not on a race track would remove the silencer from his louder than stock can.


"Just got back from a 2 day ride on the KLR...holy HELL this thing is loud. Any type of climbing (mountain highways) and you'll need earplugs. I have an Indian Spirit with Hooker pipes and this exhaust is LOUDER than that! Love it"

'Sounds like a beast..."

"Great sound, great power and great value. Nice roar, just like a bike should have"

"and compared to the stock pipe, this was LOUD! I’m not easy to impress but this exhaust impressed me big time"

"This pipe sounds great. I set off car alarms when I ride by"


Like I keep saying, it's not just the cruiser crowd that has loud pipes.

If you want to clarify it with "straight" unbaffled pipes then yes, you and I and Zerk will probably agree, othewise we will agree to disagree.
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Old 06-13-2011, 11:26 AM   #735
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So is it loud pipes you guys don't like or just straight pipes?
I just don't like the loud pipes, no matter whether straight, bent or triangular. It doesn't matter to me what bike they're on, I just don't want to hear them and, based on personal experience, I just don't believe that they save lives. Just my take on it.
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