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View Results: Do Loud pipes save lives?
Yes 160 18.43%
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Old 05-01-2011, 11:43 AM   #106
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I do realize that with modern cars, its hard to hear outside noises. Then again my modern cars are now old, and not so quite anymore.

The point of loud pipes is to only hear you in the blind spot, a few feet away. To that I think you can argue they work at times

The question of the thread was do you think the work, not how sensitive you are.

I live out of town cause I don't live people. If I had more money I would be farther from the road, farther from society.
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Old 05-01-2011, 12:18 PM   #107
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Or else what?
Or else his argument has no validity.
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Old 05-01-2011, 12:48 PM   #108
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I wore chaps and 3/4 to the Arctic Circle. Had the chaps on the entire time I was in AK and YT, just to stay warm. But I wasn't on a GS, so I guess its ok.

My point was if loud pipes even add a small amount of safety, then I think they would fit in the ATGATT.

People keep getting off track, bringing up complacency or pissing people off.


I am curious what people said about muscle cars back in the 60s and 70s. I suspect we whine more now.
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Old 05-01-2011, 02:14 PM   #109
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Of course they save lives. If all other factors are identical, then you are safer with a bike that makes more noise. The more noise, the safer you are. Cages are more likely to hear a loud bike than a quiet bike, and there's a better chance they'll look in their blind spot before swerving into the other lane without any indicators.

How much of a difference it makes is debatable, and I wish my KTM was quieter. But it's definitely safer.

I can understand why everyone hates loud bikes. I hate them too! But to say quiet bikes are just as safe as loud bikes is letting your opinion get the better of your judgment.
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Old 05-01-2011, 04:30 PM   #110
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But to say quiet bikes are just as safe as loud bikes is letting your opinion get the better of your judgment.
Your gonna be black balled now, and not get to vote in the secret elections.
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Old 05-01-2011, 05:46 PM   #111
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I voted "no", but then realized how little I really care about this issue. Can I erase my vote?
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:14 PM   #112
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They have eyes to notice you on the road and this doesn't prevent them to make a left-turn right in your face so you really think that some noise will change a thing?

That is because you did not do what it takes to help their BRAINS see you.

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Old 05-01-2011, 08:19 PM   #113
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Myth!!!

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Loud pipes scare the deer. They run the other way , which for me, where I live, is a good thing. So I am voting yes on this pole.

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This is a MYTH.

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Old 05-01-2011, 08:20 PM   #114
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I wonder how loud the pipes will have to be for the car driver to hear them, especially if the windows are wound up? I suppose if you do lot of riding in the city, the loud pipes might save your skin, car next to you might notice you before taking your space. I've got the same opinion about the horn and loud pipes, i use other methods to stay out of harms way.

^^^ This ^^^ ... And don't ride next to cars.

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The point of loud pipes is to only hear you in the blind spot, a few feet away. To that I think you can argue they work at times.

This is TRUE! which goes to the "other methods.." above.
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:31 PM   #115
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^^^ This ^^^ ... And don't ride next to cars.




This is TRUE! which goes to the "other methods.." above.
I agree, get out of the blind spot, but to do so you will spend some time there, no matter how fast your ride.
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:45 PM   #116
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Of course they save lives. If all other factors are identical, then you are safer with a bike that makes more noise. The more noise, the safer you are. Cages are more likely to hear a loud bike than a quiet bike, and there's a better chance they'll look in their blind spot before swerving into the other lane without any indicators.

How much of a difference it makes is debatable, and I wish my KTM was quieter. But it's definitely safer.

I can understand why everyone hates loud bikes. I hate them too! But to say quiet bikes are just as safe as loud bikes is letting your opinion get the better of your judgment.
First, I like the sound of loud pipes... Just hate the disrespectful asshats that ride around blipping their throttle and being as obnoxious as possible like some little attention whore spoiled child.

I would say that quite bikes are (or can be) not only safer than loud bikes but MUCH SAFER!!! It is the nut connecting the bars that makes a bike safe or unsafe.

So how can I possibly believe that a quite bike is safer?

CAPABILITIES OF THE BIKE ITSELF. Most (not all) loud bikes are Cruisers/feet-forward bikes. The “GO, STOP & TURN capabilities of these bikes simply do not compare to that of Dual Sport, Standard, Sport, Sport-Touring type of bikes (with the exception of the “go” part in some cases)

I would much rather be on a super quite bike like a K1200RS than a straight piped FLHX (or whatever make model) Cruiser as the bike itself is able to more easily avoid a lane infraction.

Cruisers by their very nature take more discipline to ride well. That does NOT make them bad… Just different… and yes, LESS SAFE. Perhaps this is why so many riders make them loud??? They need every advantage they can get!!!

I just wish the asshats would try a little harder to be respectful of others.
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Old 05-01-2011, 10:23 PM   #117
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To say there is no debate, is arrogant. There is alway room for discussion.
Motorcycles represent about 2.5% of registered vehicles.(?) And they probably represent 75%+ of obnoxiously loud vehicles.

Like it or not, the way things are going in this country, we should be more concerned with listening to the opinion of others, then voicing ours. I have a hard time believing most folks don't know the difference between reasonable and obnoxious. it's just that some don't care.

I can understand not wanting a silent bike for a lot of reasons. My rigs exhaust isn't stock. But really, do folks sitting in their house a 1/4 mile from the road pose a threat to riders?

Is LOUD any safer than just loud enough?
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Old 05-01-2011, 10:27 PM   #118
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Its OK Zerk. I'm sure that chaps look good on you.
I couldn't care less if somebody likes wearing chaps.............................










As long as they wear something under them.
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Old 05-01-2011, 10:34 PM   #119
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That is because you did not do what it takes to help their BRAINS see you.

Generally speaking I mean.

I meant that some car drivers don't PAY ATTENTION and I don't think that doing this or that will change a thing about it.

Even if you make rumbling noise (or wear a flashing vest...), if they don't care and don't pay attention, what would that change in the end? You will annoy everyone else around, period.

And puting yourself in a bad situation (blind spot) doesn't give you the right to be obnoxious just to save your bacon from your own mistake.
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Old 05-01-2011, 10:49 PM   #120
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Generally speaking I mean.

I meant that some car drivers don't PAY ATTENTION and I don't think that doing this or that will change a thing about it.

Even if you make rumbling noise (or wear a flashing vest...), if they don't care and don't pay attention, what would that change in the end? You will annoy everyone else around, period.

And puting yourself in a bad situation (blind spot) doesn't give you the right to be obnoxious just to save your bacon from your own mistake.

Agree.
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