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Old 07-09-2011, 10:37 AM   #91
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Update: Stalling problem has NOT been solved. Bike died at a stop sign (luckily on a quite side street) 20 minutes into the first ride back from the shop. No FI light or any other symptoms other than a distinct rich smelling exhaust when I tried to restart.. I couldn't get it started so it had to spend the night parked on the street. I guess the dealer test ride didn't last more than about 15 minutes...

Spoke to dealer and they're willing to contact KTM-NA next week to ask for help with the problem .
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Old 07-09-2011, 11:09 AM   #92
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Update: Stalling problem has NOT been solved. Bike died at a stop sign (luckily on a quite side street) 20 minutes into the first ride back from the shop. No FI light or any other symptoms other than a distinct rich smelling exhaust when I tried to restart.. I couldn't get it started so it had to spend the night parked on the street. I guess the dealer test ride didn't last more than about 15 minutes...

Spoke to dealer and they're willing to contact KTM-NA next week to ask for help with the problem .
The KTM-NA tech is still in CA trying to figure out why my 690 won't stay running, so he should be seeing you soon. He already had spent a day working on it and called it good, the next day it wouldn't stay running more than 30 seconds. This is after the dealer had it for 9 weeks already. I've been without use of my 690 since 4/23
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Old 07-11-2011, 10:29 AM   #93
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Oke, that has been cleared up
More light can be seen in another "orange" thread...
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:42 AM   #94
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The KTM-NA tech is still in CA trying to figure out why my 690 won't stay running, so he should be seeing you soon. He already had spent a day working on it and called it good, the next day it wouldn't stay running more than 30 seconds. This is after the dealer had it for 9 weeks already. I've been without use of my 690 since 4/23
Back on topic at last. TuneECU appears to have helped solve my stalling problem. Looks like I won't be seeing the KTM tech soon after all.

The short version of the story-

I didn't want to wait until Tuesday for my dealer to start troubleshooting my bike. After a stalling session On a Sunday ride I immediately hooked the bike to TuneECU. I ran the injector test option and let it pulse the injector for about 2 minutes. The motor started right up afterwards. A clear indication that I should spend a few minutes inspecting the fuel rail and injector itself. I noticed how easily the injector removed from the throttle body and much gunk had accumulated around the injector and how loose the seal was. I ditched the worn seal and replaced it, then cleaned the area around the injector and soaked the injector itself in carb cleaner overnight.

The original injector to throttle body seal had worn out and was not keeping an air tight seal around the injector. Un-metered outside air was able to bleed in to the system, thus leaning the mixture. I replaced the seal and now it starts right up, hot or cold. Rode the bike for 2 hours today and no problems. A good seal also has the added benefit of reducing the popping and snarling on overun

Thanks TuneECU .
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Old 07-15-2011, 07:02 AM   #95
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Is the seal something unique, or just an O ring?
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:13 AM   #96
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Is the seal something unique, or just an O ring?
75041023010 SEAL RING

http://ktmworld.com/ktm_oem_parts_sc...er=75041023010

#21 in the diagram

Somewhat unique. Not the same as the #18 o-ring, but you may be able to find it at one of the big suppliers (McMaster Carr etc.). I didn't bother looking around and just bought the KTM part.
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:51 AM   #97
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:53 AM   #98
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I did a few hundred miles of nasty trails last weekend and the tuning is pretty good at the moment. Roll on wheelie anytime, anywhere and of course it was a monster on the trails 40mpg on the trails is pretty good in my opinion considering how I was beating on it. Not sure how I could ride it with the stock tuning
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Old 07-17-2011, 04:51 PM   #99
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Hello, a question to someone with more insight into the 690 FI-system than me:

I have a 690R -09 with a Wings silencer.
Got the cables last week and had a troublefree install of the Akra-map (KM765EU0804031).

Now I have ordered a K&N-filter and the KTM open airbox cover (76506102000), and wonder if I then should install the
tuning kit EVO 1 map (KM765EU0804132) ?

There are also two different all years Akra-maps listed in TuneEcu, KM765EU0804031 and KM765EU0800231. Does anyone know what the difference between them are?
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Old 07-17-2011, 05:01 PM   #100
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Hello, a question to someone with more insight into the 690 FI-system than me:

I have a 690R -09 with a Wings silencer.
Got the cables last week and had a troublefree install of the Akra-map (KM765EU0804031).

Now I have ordered a K&N-filter and the KTM open airbox cover (76506102000), and wonder if I then should install the
tuning kit EVO 1 map (KM765EU0804132) ?

There are also two different all years Akra-maps listed in TuneEcu, KM765EU0804031 and KM765EU0800231. Does anyone know what the difference between them are?
2011 bikes use a different map, so be sure you're getting the 10 and below mapping.
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:04 PM   #101
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has anybody bought the cable from CJ Designs? if not what are you using and where did you get it?
im ready to jump in now. I just wish I had a stock map as a reference point. I had ktm add some fuel across the board to mine so I dont have the stock map to return to.
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:42 PM   #102
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has anybody bought the cable from CJ Designs? if not what are you using and where did you get it?
im ready to jump in now. I just wish I had a stock map as a reference point. I had ktm add some fuel across the board to mine so I dont have the stock map to return to.
Got my cable from PowerCell a long time ago. All of the various stock maps are available from the TuneECU site. You can save your modified map and put it back any time after using/modifying other maps. Go for it.
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:44 PM   #103
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has anybody bought the cable from CJ Designs? if not what are you using and where did you get it?
im ready to jump in now. I just wish I had a stock map as a reference point. I had ktm add some fuel across the board to mine so I dont have the stock map to return to.
Yes I bought mine from CJ designs. My 2010 runs perfect with stock map FMF quiet, and KTM/Uni filter so I have left the stock mapping alone.

I don't rally race, but i do spend lots of time on enduro trails in Arkansas. Single track, rocky, steep goat trails, with slimy roots and crap.

Going to do a dual sport next week. Riding to Colorado for the Top of the Rockies Rally, with my 18 year old son on his KLX 250
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:10 AM   #104
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Question...

I know that on the Map Select switch in relation to the EP maps that:

Pos #1 = "Soft" map
Pos #2 = "Performance" map
Pos #3 = "Standard" map

However what does the "Neutral" EP do and which switch position would this be? I'm guessing maybe for "0" the low fuel quality map??
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Old 07-19-2011, 10:35 AM   #105
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Question...

I know that on the Map Select switch in relation to the EP maps that:

Pos #1 = "Soft" map
Pos #2 = "Performance" map
Pos #3 = "Standard" map

However what does the "Neutral" EP do and which switch position would this be? I'm guessing maybe for "0" the low fuel quality map??

"0" is the shitty fuel setting. Recommended to be used for short distances possible. I think shitty fuel is worse then anything we can actually get in the usa...its for like 80 octane. I know my husaberg has run 87 octane before without any trouble.
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