my turn - Page 3

ka5ysy · 05-14-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tserts

You cannot practice panic braking, that's why it's called that... You just get better at not panicking but when faced with real out-of-control danger and get caught off guard your reactions are much worst that your actual riding abilities... If your clutch was operating normally maybe this thread wouldn't exist...

Actually you can and should practice "Quick Stops" all the time. That gets the muscle memory into the automatic reaction mode where you know instantly what to do, and more importantly, how much brake (threshold braking) you can get to quickly without locking the front tire. This skill, like swerves and stopping in curves, is a volatile skill that will go away without constant practice to refresh it. This particular episode would likely not have happened in an ABS equipped bike depending on the space cushion available between the vehicles. Like ABS or not, it would definitely have prevented the locked front wheel drop.

The other thing we can learn from this is that the preride inspection is critical: If something is not functioning correctly, fix it or do not ride.

Weldman · 05-15-2011, 12:02 PM

for a 1-mile ride to the ER that cost me $387 and change. The cop on the scene said he wasn't allowed to give me a ride to the hospital. Fire truck guys said they "had to" put me on a backboard etc. to give me a lift there. Next time I'll fucking walk if I'm able.

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Originally Posted by RedRocket

i'm usually pretty good with panic braking due to practice. 3 months out of the saddle sure cost me.

as for the ambulance i'm pretty sure my hmo coverage would have left me on the hook for a bunch of that bill.

RedRocket · 05-19-2011, 07:42 PM

tserts · 05-20-2011, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RedRocket

Ready for the trophy wall...

rivercreep · 05-24-2011, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RedRocket

not really, i have baby wipes. it's a reach issue

Can you drag your butt across the floor like a Dog?

RedRocket · 05-24-2011, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rivercreep

Can you drag your butt across the floor like a Dog?

yesterday i had a friend tell me story about rolling a towel up like a snake and doing that.

thankfully the pain meds stopped me up for the first few days. by the time it was necessary i was out of the shoulder brace and into a removable sling so i could reach ok.

klopfi · 05-24-2011, 06:17 AM

Bag Balm will work to keep your scabbage supple. Heal quick.

tserts · 05-24-2011, 07:02 AM

There you go!

RedRocket · 06-16-2011, 08:47 PM

Got the cast off my hand on Friday, and now that the swelling has gone down I can see things better. After new X-rays at the Orthopedic surgeon's office I'm told that it looks OK, and I'll need a couple of more months of healing. The bone is sticking up out of the top of my hand, so I wasn't too happy overall.

I've only been seen by the Physician's assistant, I've never met the actual hand doctor, though he has seen my X-rays. It was explained to me that I have about a 40 degree angle from the break, and they normally only operate when they're over 45. Also the bone is short by just under 1/2", and only over a 1/2" do they normally operate to correct it.

I went to see a doctor 'friend' and showed him the hand, and the pictures. He said " They're going fix that, aren't they?" I explained what I was told, and he wasn't too pleased with the diagnosis, telling me that I'll likely lose most of my grip strength, and that the tendons will have a tough time riding over the raised bone, and likely tear over time, and bother me forever. He set me up with a different hand specialist next week to go and get a 2nd opinion. I'm looking forward to hearing the view of someone else.

tserts · 06-17-2011, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RedRocket

Got the cast off my hand on Friday, and now that the swelling has gone down I can see things better. After new X-rays at the Orthopedic surgeon's office I'm told that it looks OK, and I'll need a couple of more months of healing. The bone is sticking up out of the top of my hand, so I wasn't too happy overall.

I've only been seen by the Physician's assistant, I've never met the actual hand doctor, though he has seen my X-rays. It was explained to me that I have about a 40 degree angle from the break, and they normally only operate when they're over 45. Also the bone is short by just under 1/2", and only over a 1/2" do they normally operate to correct it.

I went to see a doctor 'friend' and showed him the hand, and the pictures. He said " They're going fix that, aren't they?" I explained what I was told, and he wasn't too pleased with the diagnosis, telling me that I'll likely lose most of my grip strength, and that the tendons will have a tough time riding over the raised bone, and likely tear over time, and bother me forever. He set me up with a different hand specialist next week to go and get a 2nd opinion. I'm looking forward to hearing the view of someone else.

Shit that doesn't sound good... Get even more opinions, don't risk grip strength, it will came back and bite you... Best wishes and I hope all this ends well.

DougInKY · 06-19-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRocket

Got the cast off my hand on Friday, and now that the swelling has gone down I can see things better. After new X-rays at the Orthopedic surgeon's office I'm told that it looks OK, and I'll need a couple of more months of healing. The bone is sticking up out of the top of my hand, so I wasn't too happy overall.

I've only been seen by the Physician's assistant, I've never met the actual hand doctor, though he has seen my X-rays. It was explained to me that I have about a 40 degree angle from the break, and they normally only operate when they're over 45. Also the bone is short by just under 1/2", and only over a 1/2" do they normally operate to correct it.

I went to see a doctor 'friend' and showed him the hand, and the pictures. He said " They're going fix that, aren't they?" I explained what I was told, and he wasn't too pleased with the diagnosis, telling me that I'll likely lose most of my grip strength, and that the tendons will have a tough time riding over the raised bone, and likely tear over time, and bother me forever. He set me up with a different hand specialist next week to go and get a 2nd opinion. I'm looking forward to hearing the view of someone else.

I think I would find a different doctor than that hand guy. That sounds like it needs to be fixed.

NJ-Brett · 06-19-2011, 03:11 PM

My first ortho guy was a quack, the 2nd one (my pick) was great and did more and different things for all my busted up bits.

RedRocket · 12-13-2012, 09:29 AM

Wow. Thought I had updated this.

It's about 18 months later, and I'm AOK, pretty much. It wasn't easy though.
I had a hard time because my shoulder froze from being stuck in the sling for 2 weeks.
I went to physiotherapy arranged through my HMO, and they sucked. The first 3 or 4 visits helped get me about 45% mobile, but then I stalled, and had terrible pain trying to move my shoulder further. Now I'm not generally a pussy when it comes to taking a little pain, but I was wasted by this, and over the next ;4 visits they just said " push harder, it doesn't hurt that much".

At the same time I was getting therapy for my hand at a different place. It was going well, and I was crying the blues to this PT about my shoulder troubles, and he said he could help me, but unfortunately couldn't take my insurance so I'd have to pay him cash. Considering the trouble I was having I figured it was a worthy investment to at least give him a shot.
I set a appointment to meet him at another office.
Hooking up with him was a PAINFUL MIRACLE! Of course there really are none, bit this guy knew what he was doing.
He explained the all the meat and muscle was stuck to my frame from the lack of movement and needed to be broken free.
I went through 4 or 5 sessions of him clamping his ViceGrip hands on me while having me stretch in various directions and wrenching the meat off my bones. The instant results were amazing. I would pick up inches of extra range in an instant. I would cry in pain, tears running down my face while pulled, and pinched the shit out of me. I would see him once a week, and each time it would take 3 days for the pain and bruises to subside, but overall I got back 95 to 100% of my original range of motion.

My hand still has a huge bump where the bone sticks up, but it's slowly smoothing down. The tendons stayed pretty tight for nearly a year, but they're just about back to normal now, but if I bump the bump the pain is pretty sharp. Big deal, life could have been much worse. I did see another hand specialist that I was referred to, and he said exactly the same thing as the first guy, that it was close to, but debatable in regards to surgery. He also said that the additional healing time, and scar tissue that would be created would most likely outweighs any benefit from operating on it so I'm glad I didn't.

As for the bike, it's still sitting broken I hate to say. The Miata made a worthy substitute for being closer to the elements, and "driving" enjoyment so I haven't ridden since. I am starting to feel the itch again though, and actually went to the new bike show lat weekend. I'm looking forward to riding again.

phoneman · 12-13-2012, 05:22 PM

I'm a little late to this party and I'm glad everything seems to have healed up but you can wipe with one finger. It might not be a real good wipe job but it is possible

. And I know from experience how much fun a little shoulder therapy can be.
My therapist said " It really don't hurt all that bad and it'll build some character ".
He was a lying bastard--on both counts.

05-19-2011, 07:42 PM	#33
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05-24-2011, 06:17 AM	#37
klopfi Professional Struggler Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Wyoming Oddometer: 118	youch! Bag Balm will work to keep your scabbage supple. Heal quick. __________________ "It's always good to see young people taking an interest in danger. Now, a lot of people are going to be telling you you're crazy, and maybe they're right. But the fact of the matter is: Bones heal. Chicks dig scars. And the United States of America has the best doctor-to-daredevil ratio in the world!" - Captain Lance Murdoch Carpe Spargel!

05-24-2011, 07:02 AM	#38
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12-13-2012, 05:22 PM	#44
phoneman Adventurer Joined: Jun 2012 Location: south east Georgia Oddometer: 45	I'm a little late to this party and I'm glad everything seems to have healed up but you can wipe with one finger. It might not be a real good wipe job but it is possible. And I know from experience how much fun a little shoulder therapy can be. My therapist said " It really don't hurt all that bad and it'll build some character ". He was a lying bastard--on both counts.

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06-16-2011, 08:47 PM	#39
RedRocket ^OP Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs Joined: Feb 2003 Location: SoCal Oddometer: 17,867	Got the cast off my hand on Friday, and now that the swelling has gone down I can see things better. After new X-rays at the Orthopedic surgeon's office I'm told that it looks OK, and I'll need a couple of more months of healing. The bone is sticking up out of the top of my hand, so I wasn't too happy overall. I've only been seen by the Physician's assistant, I've never met the actual hand doctor, though he has seen my X-rays. It was explained to me that I have about a 40 degree angle from the break, and they normally only operate when they're over 45. Also the bone is short by just under 1/2", and only over a 1/2" do they normally operate to correct it. I went to see a doctor 'friend' and showed him the hand, and the pictures. He said " They're going fix that, aren't they?" I explained what I was told, and he wasn't too pleased with the diagnosis, telling me that I'll likely lose most of my grip strength, and that the tendons will have a tough time riding over the raised bone, and likely tear over time, and bother me forever. He set me up with a different hand specialist next week to go and get a 2nd opinion. I'm looking forward to hearing the view of someone else.

06-19-2011, 03:11 PM	#42
NJ-Brett Brett Joined: Sep 2010 Location: Southern New Jersey Oddometer: 4,791	My first ortho guy was a quack, the 2nd one (my pick) was great and did more and different things for all my busted up bits.

12-13-2012, 09:29 AM	#43
RedRocket ^OP Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs Joined: Feb 2003 Location: SoCal Oddometer: 17,867	Wow. Thought I had updated this. It's about 18 months later, and I'm AOK, pretty much. It wasn't easy though. I had a hard time because my shoulder froze from being stuck in the sling for 2 weeks. I went to physiotherapy arranged through my HMO, and they sucked. The first 3 or 4 visits helped get me about 45% mobile, but then I stalled, and had terrible pain trying to move my shoulder further. Now I'm not generally a pussy when it comes to taking a little pain, but I was wasted by this, and over the next ;4 visits they just said " push harder, it doesn't hurt that much". At the same time I was getting therapy for my hand at a different place. It was going well, and I was crying the blues to this PT about my shoulder troubles, and he said he could help me, but unfortunately couldn't take my insurance so I'd have to pay him cash. Considering the trouble I was having I figured it was a worthy investment to at least give him a shot. I set a appointment to meet him at another office. Hooking up with him was a PAINFUL MIRACLE! Of course there really are none, bit this guy knew what he was doing. He explained the all the meat and muscle was stuck to my frame from the lack of movement and needed to be broken free. I went through 4 or 5 sessions of him clamping his ViceGrip hands on me while having me stretch in various directions and wrenching the meat off my bones. The instant results were amazing. I would pick up inches of extra range in an instant. I would cry in pain, tears running down my face while pulled, and pinched the shit out of me. I would see him once a week, and each time it would take 3 days for the pain and bruises to subside, but overall I got back 95 to 100% of my original range of motion. My hand still has a huge bump where the bone sticks up, but it's slowly smoothing down. The tendons stayed pretty tight for nearly a year, but they're just about back to normal now, but if I bump the bump the pain is pretty sharp. Big deal, life could have been much worse. I did see another hand specialist that I was referred to, and he said exactly the same thing as the first guy, that it was close to, but debatable in regards to surgery. He also said that the additional healing time, and scar tissue that would be created would most likely outweighs any benefit from operating on it so I'm glad I didn't. As for the bike, it's still sitting broken I hate to say. The Miata made a worthy substitute for being closer to the elements, and "driving" enjoyment so I haven't ridden since. I am starting to feel the itch again though, and actually went to the new bike show lat weekend. I'm looking forward to riding again.