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Old 05-17-2011, 06:00 AM   #16
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Thanks for the kind comments in my defense XDR, . . .
On the contrary, Tidewater KLR; thank YOU for your service to our country!

I'm gratified you want to spend Memorial Day honoring those who have gone before you.

You told no one how he should, or should not, observe Memorial Day. You're certainly free to observe this national holiday as you choose.
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Old 05-17-2011, 06:19 AM   #17
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I know this will not go over well here but I am going to write it anyway.

We do not need any more asswipes with straight pipes. It is already too noisy that weekend.

If you have a quiet bike, maybe you can persuade the pirates with noisy exhausts to stay home.

And, while I am at it, how does your noisy parade help anybody?


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Enjoy the ride! Looks to be another great turnout. I know several guys coming from as far as MO. It always warms my heart to to talk to the riders and hear their stories.
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Old 05-17-2011, 07:54 AM   #18
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I know, 30 years!!! Dinner is on me when we meet up.
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Old 05-17-2011, 08:31 AM   #19
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I have never ridden in Rolling Thunder but I will this year, either on my quiet 1150GS or my quiet 1100RT. One weekend out of 52 and you complain. Go down to the DOD parking lot and complain. Good luck with that.



Thank you for riding in the parade with a quiet motorcycle. That is respectful.

Is it really too much to ask that people be quiet and respectful?


Most of those folks are vets or the family of a vet.......
I'm from Louisville, KY and used to live 3 blocks from Churchill Downs. I never was too much into horse racing so on Derby Day we went to the country and got out of that mess. Maybe you could do that too. Just sayin'.

I have tried that. I need to come back sometime and it is really unsettling to try and get through the stupidity of straight pipes.


Don't the people back home need to reminded of veterans and their service to this country?
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Old 05-17-2011, 02:48 PM   #20
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I feel compelled to post the official purpose statement for the Rolling Thunder event directly from the Flyer as I did not intend to misrepresent what the organization is doing.

From the official flyer-

"Leaving 12:00 Noon for the ride through Washington, D.C. to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial to pay our respect for our brothers and sisters who gave thier lives for the freeedom we enjoy every day and for the Full Accounting of All POW-MIA's and Veterans Rights. This is a Demonstration - NOT A Parade."

I can think of no better place than the National Mall (which is NOT a residential neighborhood) for such a lawful demonstration - within view of the White House and the Capitol Building.

I suppose it is pointless to respond to the baiting, but cannot resist.

Chris, What you fail to realize is that RT is "the people back home" coming to town to remind their Representatives (and the proffessional staffers in residence) of the "Veterans and thier service to this country."

The fact that you chose to make this a straight pipes issue and then chose to paint all participants with the same brush is more a reflection of how you see the world than anything else.

I resent your implication that the Mall is not open to all visitors and sadden that you are unable to respect the rights of Citizens to lawfully gather.

There's a lot wrong with how we treat our Vets, THAT is the issue at hand.

I challenge you to Get Real, get over yourself, and come out to meet the people that have ridden in from all over this country to be heard.

Otherwise you can take your noise abatement issue to the Mayor and see how far that gets you, my prediction is they will respond with thier own version of
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Old 05-30-2011, 12:02 AM   #21
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Absolutely no disrespect intended. But can 7 miles and never going over 25mph actually be considered a ride? That's the very definition of a parade.

Can't they handle something from Gettysburg to the Memorial that is a two hour ride at the most?

Sara did look mighty fine in her leathers. I'm very conflicted about that woman.
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Old 05-30-2011, 07:35 AM   #22
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Well I've had some time to reflect on yesterday's events. The ride is just part of a greater event. I don't have the official ride number but the bikes overflowed the Pentagon North parking lot and ended up surrounding the entire Pentagon, well in excess of 5K and probably in excess of 10k riders. Yes, I have to say that many bikes does sends a message when they all arrive at the mall at the same time (it actually takes 3-4 hours for all the bike to make the short trip). But the ride is not the extent of the demonstration. For those that wish to participate, there are dedications and memorial services leading up to the ride that have greater meaning, and I believe there were activities at the destination (the Mall) that contribute to the definiition of a demonstration.

I did not stay after the ride for a variety of reasons, primarily I was ill prepared for the long wait in the heat and chose to get back to my house to recover. I also was alone in a sea of clubs and while everyone was friendly enough, I was just a lone wolf lost in the masses. This had nothing to do with me being on a KLR, just the nature of the event.

Palin's circus was not appriciated by some who saw it as a distraction to thier cause, and I think the media reporting reflects that, however I did see some coverage of the Saturday wreath laying at the Navy Memorial, and other events of the week that had build awareness before the ride.

I was in a different parking area and didn't even know she had made it. Folks that were closer said she had been in a VIP area and did not actually circulate through the crowds. Probably a good call.

I'll go next year if I am in the area, I may ride to the mall and watch the ride to experience the impact of that many machines going by for such a long time, and see what the rest of the day on the mall holds.

As to why this is not a longer ride say from Gettysburg, well it is. The staging area at the Pentagon is a meeting area for the thousands that have ridden in together from all points, to ride together for the final miles. There were organized rides from the left coast and many from neighboring states. Many of the clubs rode in together.

Large rides do require the assistance of "the Man" at some point and my observation was that some of these groups would prefer to ride independently to raise awareness.

What is very impressive is the welcome afforded these groups and individual riders as they enter the national captital region. The overpasses of the highways leading to the Pentagon were filled with welcomers including Firefighters, EMS, and LE. Regional rides from all over the region received police escorts and many are so large they require lane closures. It is up to the participants to join one of these rides to the Pentagon if they chose to.

My pics all suck, so just google Rolling Thunder 2011 images or Video and you'll be able to see what I'm talking about. It is an American experience.

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Old 05-30-2011, 01:13 PM   #23
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If the people with straight pipes would stay in the DOD parking lot, I would not have an issue and would not need earplugs. When they go riding around making noise throughout the city it gets rather disturbing.
You think thats loud! Try combat!
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:22 PM   #24
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Absolutely no disrespect intended. But can 7 miles and never going over 25mph actually be considered a ride? That's the very definition of a parade.

Can't they handle something from Gettysburg to the Memorial that is a two hour ride at the most?

Sara did look mighty fine in her leathers. I'm very conflicted about that woman.
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Old 05-30-2011, 07:39 PM   #25
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Just got home from Rolling Thunder. I rode in excess of 800 miles for this tribute to veterans, of which I am one. The official count, according to the DC media was 400,000 bikes. It took 2.5 hours before we could even start the bike. We (4 bikes and 7 people) rode to East Coast HD in Quantico and with about 1,000 others got a police escort on the HOV lanes, which were blocked to all other traffic, to the Pentagon.
The HD dealer provided donuts and coffee for everyone......We staged at 6:30 and KSU at 8:30. The streets and overpasses were lined.....I guess those that hate noise stayed home. Constitution Ave and Independence were lined as well. 10's of thousands of people.....A great show of support.
Will I do it again????? Maybe.....

We did not see Sarah and didn't even know she was there. We were parked over by the VIP Escorts too.....
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Old 05-30-2011, 10:29 PM   #26
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I participated in that event a few years ago. I was grossly unprepared for the event. I had no idea there would be so many bikes or that it would take hours to leave the parking lot to ride a few miles.

It was one of those things that I'm glad I did and if/when I do it again I will ride up and find a nice grassy spot to chill and watch the bikes go by.

It was really cool riding up from VA Beach and seeing the firetrucks, people and American Flags waving from the overpasses. That part was really cool, but it HOT and a lot of waiting around in the parking lot.
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:26 AM   #27
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NOT Rolling Thunder, but--the Washington Area Trail Riders, the first and only off-road motorized riding unit to appear in the National Memorial Day Parade, made its fourth consecutive appearance Monday, May 30, Memorial Day, 2011.

With over 100 units in the parade, we rode down the National Mall, from the US Capitol grounds on Constitution Avenue past the south lawn of the White House. honoring those who gave their lives for our country.

A friend mistakenly thought Sarah Palin joined our procession from news stories; here's my message of explanation to him:
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Actually, my friend, I gather Palin attended "Rolling Thunder," the V-twin-rich
demonstration concerned about missing-in-action (MIA) and prisoners-of-war (POW), as well as honoring our fallen heroes.

The National Memorial Day Parade is entirely separate, a quiet and sober tribute to those who lost their lives in the service of their country.

Yet, "Memorial Day," and "motorcycles," lead inevitably to the conclusion by many the events are one and the same.

My club calls itself, "Rolling Whisper," in conrast to the better-known
two-wheeled contingent!

We are the first and only motorized off-road riding unit to appear in the
Parade.

With over 100 units, the National Memorial Day Parade extends from the US Capitol grounds, down Constitution Avenue on the National Mall, past the south lawn of the White House, a mile away, at a walking pace.

Rolling Thunder plies the neighborhood on Sunday; the National Memorial
Day Parade is held on Monday, Memorial Day proper.

Regardless, politics aside, I imagine Sarah Palin can handle a large V-twin motorcycle, given her experience with snowmobiles (or, "snow machines," as I'm told they're called in Alaska)!

The atttendance, participation, and everything else, I suppose, seemed 'way down from previous Parades (this was our fourth), to me. Our unit had a very successful ride, with riders from ages 6 to 75; we gave out 456 child-safe miniature American flags to children watching the parade with their parents along the route.

The satisfaction of witnessing the enjoyment of the spectators and participants justifies to some extent my near-heatstroke (18 parade spectators and participants were hospitalized), nursing the KLR down that mile of concrete in 96-degree F. weather!

So, Rolling Thunder and the National Memorial Day Parade are separate observances of Memorial Day. I am thankful each of us has the freedom to choose how he or she observes this national holiday created to honor our war dead; or, not to observe it at all. Even, the freedom to criticize those who do.

These freedoms were purchased by the sacrifices of those we honor on Memorial Day.
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Old 05-31-2011, 10:02 AM   #28
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XDR I thought about joining your group on Monday but my riding partner had to be back at work on Tuesday. I'm glad you had a large group and had fun....We did on Sunday and there were quite a few GS's in the parade.
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:56 PM   #29
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Had I been in the country I would have tried to make this event for once. If I am there next year I will do it, hopefully miss alaska will have packed up her shite and gone back home.
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