New Garmin Montana

[FatChance]

The Montana will show the speed limit like that with the nuvi dashboard if the data is available in the map you are using.

[DRTBYK]

Originally Posted by ChadHahn

I have a couple of questions that I haven't found the answers to. That doesn't mean that they haven't been addressed, just that I couldn't find them.

The Nuvi I use in my truck has the speed limit for the road I'm on in the corner of the screen. If I'm speeding the number turns red. Can I put the speed limit up on my Montana?

Also, I have some user installed red light/speed camera POIs (see a thread?) activated which work great but all the other POIs seem to be activated too. If I'm driving down a road in town every restaurant and gas station is indicated. Can I keep my speed camera POI but not have to see all the other POIs?

Thanks.

Chad

The other POI's you are seeing are in the Map data. You can turn them on/off but might not want to. If they bug you, you can adjust the Setup->Map->Advanced Setup->Zoom Levels->Map Points-> to say 20ft and you won't see any Map POI's until you zoom in to 20ft scale.

Cheers,

[_cy_]

finally figured out why I could not enter coordinates into Montana. had to call Garmin to figure it out.

evidently there are a slew of ways to express GPS coordinates. one has to set which standard Montana uses. what I don't understand is why there is NO mention in instructions. that's right nothing ...

when I posted problem #5632 in this thread, of not being able to change all digits. No one else offered different format was the culprit either.

coordinate I was given was expressed in Decimal Degrees

there's also Degrees Minutes & Seconds, GPS, UTM, etc GPS Coordinate Converter, Maps and Info

to set coordinate position format: setup -- Position Format -- default is: hddd mm.mmm

use above link to GPS Coordinate converter or switch format to match

[ChadHahn]

Originally Posted by FatChance

The Montana will show the speed limit like that with the nuvi dashboard if the data is available in the map you are using.

Originally Posted by DRTBYK

The other POI's you are seeing are in the Map data. You can turn them on/off but might not want to. If they bug you, you can adjust the Setup->Map->Advanced Setup->Zoom Levels->Map Points-> to say 20ft and you won't see any Map POI's until you zoom in to 20ft scale.

Cheers,

Thanks to the two you. I'm using the CN North America NT. Which is the same map as on my Nuvi. Is there anything I have to do to turn on the speed or should it be on automatically on the nuvi dashboard?

Chad

[DRTBYK]

Originally Posted by _cy_

finally figured out why I could not enter coordinates into Montana. had to call Garmin to figure it out.

evidently there are a slew of ways to express GPS coordinates. one has to set which standard Montana uses. what I don't understand is why there is NO mention in instructions. that's right nothing ...

when I posted problem #5632 in this thread, of not being able to change all digits. No one else offered different format was the culprit either.

coordinate I was given was expressed in Decimal Degrees

there's also Degrees Minutes & Seconds, GPS, UTM, etc GPS Coordinate Converter, Maps and Info

to set coordinate position format: setup -- Position Format -- default is: hddd mm.mmm

use above link to GPS Coordinate converter or switch format to match

One reason you did not get the "solution" to your problem when you asked here was that we try to provide short answers that will quickly get you going. That usually comes with the understanding that you have the basic fundamentals of how GPS's work. Given that you did not know about Datum' and Position Formats, I would suggest you do some reading and find a local "beginners GPS class". It will help you quite a bit in understanding future issues such as this one. It will also help you to articulate an issue in terms that have meaning to those that can help. As complex as these unit can be, it's important to describe your problem in terms that are explicit to the functions of the unit.

Hope you enjoy your Montana.

Cheers,

[cablebandit]

Originally Posted by FatChance

The Montana will show the speed limit like that with the nuvi dashboard if the data is available in the map you are using.

But not if you are navigating a route you made.

[ChadHahn]

Originally Posted by cablebandit

But not if you are navigating a route you made.

I just had the GPS running no route.

Chad

[FatChance]

Originally Posted by cablebandit

But not if you are navigating a route you made.

That is not my experience. The speed limit shows where available when following a route I have made when using the correct profile/dashboard set up to show that data.

[Emmbeedee]

Originally Posted by DRTBYK

One reason you did not get the "solution" to your problem when you asked here was that we try to provide short answers that will quickly get you going. That usually comes with the understanding that you have the basic fundamentals of how GPS's work. Given that you did not know about Datum' and Position Formats, I would suggest you do some reading and find a local "beginners GPS class". It will help you quite a bit in understanding future issues such as this one. It will also help you to articulate an issue in terms that have meaning to those that can help. As complex as these unit can be, it's important to describe your problem in terms that are explicit to the functions of the unit.

Hope you enjoy your Montana.

Cheers,

Ditto.

And keep in mind we're volunteers, under no obligation to solve your problem for you.

[cablebandit]

Nope. I can just ride along and get speed limit info. If I just hit where to and select a food place I also get the speed limit. If I take that same route and upload it through Basecamp I get no speed limit info. It's rather annoying.

[_cy_]

Originally Posted by DRTBYK

One reason you did not get the "solution" to your problem when you asked here was that we try to provide short answers that will quickly get you going. That usually comes with the understanding that you have the basic fundamentals of how GPS's work. Given that you did not know about Datum' and Position Formats, I would suggest you do some reading and find a local "beginners GPS class". It will help you quite a bit in understanding future issues such as this one. It will also help you to articulate an issue in terms that have meaning to those that can help. As complex as these unit can be, it's important to describe your problem in terms that are explicit to the functions of the unit.

Hope you enjoy your Montana.

Cheers,

Originally Posted by Emmbeedee

Ditto.

And keep in mind we're volunteers, under no obligation to solve your problem for you.

apologies if I sounded ungrateful ... for I do realize folks in this thread are only trying to help.

as for GPS fundamentals ... been using a GPS in excess of 8 years with no issues what so ever. basic information about different longitude and latitude standards should have been part of user manual. something basic as inputting GPS coordinates should have been covered.

IMHO base problem with Montana is Garmin released it too early with beta software. all one has to do is backtrack all the versions of operating system releases in say the last 8 months.

sorry but I didn't knowingly buy a product still in beta.

[Emmbeedee]

Originally Posted by _cy_

IMHO base problem with Montana is Garmin released it too early with beta software. all one has to do is backtrack all the versions of operating system releases in say the last 8 months.

sorry but I didn't knowingly buy a product still in beta.

If you think anything ever invented is ever completely finished before being released, then I suppose that's your prerogative. I don't mind getting a tool which has potential, but needs polishing, as long as the company selling it is truly working on it.

Betas have never been a problem for me, and besides, it's been fun working with Garmin (unofficially) as they are responsive, and care about their products and customers. IMHO, of course.

The two Montana 650s in this house are working perfectly... Sure hope you figure yours out but don't be so quick to blame the gps or the company if you haven't done the groundwork.

[DRTBYK]

Originally Posted by _cy_

apologies if I sounded ungrateful ... for I do realize folks in this thread are only trying to help.

as for GPS fundamentals ... been using a GPS in excess of 8 years with no issues what so ever. basic information about different longitude and latitude standards should have been part of user manual. something basic as inputting GPS coordinates should have been covered.

IMHO base problem with Montana is Garmin released it too early with beta software. all one has to do is backtrack all the versions of operating system releases in say the last 8 months.

sorry but I didn't knowingly buy a product still in beta.

I, for one, agree that there is a significant lack of User Manual information provide by Garmin today; for ALL of their GPS units. It's appalling that Garmin has reduced their User Manual to little more than a "quick start guide". You have to go back quite a few years to find a model that actually had a REAL User Manual.

But, I'm not sure I follow how the lack of User Manual information would classify the Montana as a "beta" level device.

There seem to be a significant number of folks that are managing to navigate around this earth using the Montana - we must be the "lucky ones", eh?

Cheers,

[atlas cached]

Originally Posted by _cy_

apologies if I sounded ungrateful ...

sorry but I didn't knowingly buy a product still in beta.

Would you prefer buying a GPSr that will forever be just exactly as it was when you purchased it, with all of the included bugs and glitches, and none of the added features and functions beta testing offers us?

I would be willing to bet that you would then be complaining that they come out with new GPSr units with new features every 6 months as a conspiracy to sell more GPSr to help their bottom line, and you would likely be calling on Garmin to offer free updates and fixes for your existing expensive hardware.

Grass is always greener, eh?

[_cy_]

Originally Posted by DRTBYK

I, for one, that there is a significant lack of User Manual information provide by Garmin today; for ALL of their GPS units. It's appalling that Garmin has reduced their User Manual to little more than a "quick start guide". You have to go back quite a few years to find a model that actually had a REAL User Manual.

But, I'm not sure I follow how the lack of User Manual information would classify the Montana as a "beta" level device.

There seem to be a significant number of folks that are managing to navigate around this earth using the Montana - we must be the "lucky ones", eh?

Cheers,

have not followed this thread closely as some, but when I first got Montana several months back. did follow this thread to get up to speed.

seems there were several folks traveling the world that had extensive problems with their Montana. One I helped with finding Garmin contact in Europe.

rightly or wrong, impression I've gotten is Montana as released is still beta and we are the guinea pigs.

Originally Posted by atlas cached

Would you prefer buying a GPSr that will forever be just exactly as it was when you purchased it, with all of the included bugs and glitches, and none of the added features and functions beta testing offers us?

I would be willing to bet that you would then be complaining that they come out with new GPSr units with new features every 6 months as a conspiracy to sell more GPSr to help their bottom line, and you would likely be calling on Garmin to offer free updates and fixes for your existing expensive hardware.

Grass is always greener, eh?