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Old 11-21-2012, 08:08 AM   #5926
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These EMS sale prices are rather tempting. Aside from taking pics, is there really anything I could do with a 650T that I could not do with a 600???
Essentially, no.

See all the differences between Garmin Montana models here.

The 650t does include nearly double the RAM, much of which is taken up by the Garmin 100K topo maps. If you decide you do not like them, they can safely be copied to your computer for archival purposes and all that extra space will be available. 32GB uSD cards are pretty inexpensive storage options as also!
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:14 AM   #5927
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I had to do the master reset because it lost things, it was done after the fact

Maybe it is me, but I am using different maps all the time

Montana 1 had Europe CN 2013.2 or 3
Montana 2 had the same then it had OSM Russia, kazak and other Central Asia maps one at a time.

Montana 3 has a combined Thai/Laos/Cambodia/Malaysisa

When I have these SD cards in I disable all the other maps that are in there

The SD card is taped in, tape around battery base and an ear plug inside battery case

It is on a rugged mount

What more am I supposed to do, I cannot think what I am doing wrong

If you can give me any pointers I would appreciate it

I will try that Jawaw thing in a while and see what it says

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TS - it just occurred to me, reading your post, that you are using multiple uSD cards based on where you are and what information you need available on your Montana GPSr.

When you swap uSD cards, Power the Montana on/off between removing one uSD card and inserting another. This will ensure complete re-indexing of all data.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:21 AM   #5928
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When you swap uSD cards, Power the Montana on/off between removing one uSD card and inserting another. This will ensure complete re-indexing of all data.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but to remove the microSD card you need to remove the battery. Removing the battery would power off the Montana. Are you suggesting that after the new microSD card and battery are installed, do a power off/on after the initial power on or do you mean a master reset?
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:25 AM   #5929
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but to remove the microSD card you need to remove the battery. Removing the battery would power off the Montana. Are you suggesting that after the new microSD card and battery are installed, do a power off/on after the initial power on or do you mean a master reset?
  1. Power Montana Off
  2. Remove uSD card
  3. Power Montana On
  4. Wait for boot process to complete
  5. Power Montana Off
  6. Install new uSD card
  7. Power Montana On
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:53 AM   #5930
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  1. Power Montana Off
  2. Remove uSD card
  3. Power Montana On
  4. Wait for boot process to complete
  5. Power Montana Off
  6. Install new uSD card
  7. Power Montana On
ahhhhh. I can see that being needed for OSM maps that safe the same map name and ID
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:07 AM   #5931
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Essentially, no.

See all the differences between Garmin Montana models here.

The 650t does include nearly double the RAM, much of which is taken up by the Garmin 100K topo maps. If you decide you do not like them, they can safely be copied to your computer for archival purposes and all that extra space will be available. 32GB uSD cards are pretty inexpensive storage options as also!
Really? How much RAM does each unit have? 600-650-650T?

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Old 11-21-2012, 09:09 AM   #5932
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Really? How much RAM does each unit have? 600-650-650T?

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Info readily available here:

http://garminmontanagpsr.wikispaces.com/Hardware
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:09 AM   #5933
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Really? How much RAM does each unit have? 600-650-650T?

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The Montana 600 and the Montana 650 provide 3.0 GB memory for user data and additional maps. The Montana 650t provides 7.35 GB memory, of which the pre-installed topographic map of Europe occupies about 4 GB leaving about 3.5 GB for user data and additional maps.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:39 AM   #5934
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ahhhhh. I can see that being needed for OSM maps that safe the same map name and ID
If duplicate map names are an issue, you can use JaVaWa to rename them:



And no, I do not have any vested interest in JaVaWa; I just like it a lot. It's a very useful tool.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:51 AM   #5935
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The Montana 600 and the Montana 650 provide 3.0 GB memory for user data and additional maps. The Montana 650t provides 7.35 GB memory, of which the pre-installed topographic map of Europe occupies about 4 GB leaving about 3.5 GB for user data and additional maps.
Ah....ok, that was the part I didn't understand. That's interesting......but I guess at around $80 more in price, going this route and moving the topo off to gain the extra storage on board isn't worth the cost when you can get 16GB microSD cards for around $15 or so. Still, interesting option.

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Posting this question here because more folks are probably subscribed. Hope that's ok.

Is there any reason that one could not buy the Garmin 24k Topo card and make copies of its contents onto a larger capacity card that could hold multiple map sets? What I am thinking is that it would be nice to have a card with a couple of map sets on it, say 24k topo for when I want that and some other set, like a streetmap set that supports routing or some custom thing. It would be nice to have them both on one card, so that I would not be fumbling around swapping cards.

If that would work, is there a particular folder structure that a GPS unit (like the Montana) would expect or require?

I know people say buy the disc instead, but I have a line on a card for a really good price so that's why I am considering one.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:07 AM   #5937
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Posting this question here because more folks are probably subscribed. Hope that's ok.

Is there any reason that one could not buy the Garmin 24k Topo card and make copies of its contents onto a larger capacity card that could hold multiple map sets? What I am thinking is that it would be nice to have a card with a couple of map sets on it, say 24k topo for when I want that and some other set, like a streetmap set that supports routing or some custom thing. It would be nice to have them both on one card, so that I would not be fumbling around swapping cards.

If that would work, is there a particular folder structure that a GPS unit (like the Montana) would expect or require?

I know people say buy the disc instead, but I have a line on a card for a really good price so that's why I am considering one.
If you buy the Pre-Loaded Garmin uSD Map Cards, the Map file is LOCKED to that unique uSD card, and will only function on THAT uSD card. This allows you to move the map from one GPSr to another. Also, the uSD card version of 24K Topo uses larger map segments, allowing more data to be loaded onto one GPSr, but be aware the uSD version also contains less detailed information than the DVD version.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:36 AM   #5938
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If you buy the Pre-Loaded Garmin uSD Map Cards, the Map file is LOCKED to that unique uSD card, and will only function on THAT uSD card. This allows you to move the map from one GPSr to another. Also, the uSD card version of 24K Topo uses larger map segments, allowing more data to be loaded onto one GPSr, but be aware the uSD version also contains less detailed information than the DVD version.






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Old 11-21-2012, 02:31 PM   #5939
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Just received my 650T a few minutes ago. Let the playing/learning begin!!!

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Old 11-21-2012, 02:58 PM   #5940
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Just received my 650T a few minutes ago. Let the playing/learning begin!!!

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This is a great weekend to learn all about it!
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