New Garmin Montana

[MizzouRider]

I was able to get the routes loaded as gdb files. However, none of them see to be active.
I tried loading them to the card, and to the internal memory. I see the routes in Route Planner, but when I click on the actual route it does not allow me to "go" the "go" button is active for earlier routes I tried to set up using the Montana, but not with the routes I loaded from mapsource.
When I zoom in on the route, it goes blank every other push of the + button. Then reappears when I push the + button again. Then the Montana just shuts off. It acts like it's corrupted or something. I have to keep restarting it..
Any suggestions?

[atlas cached]

Originally Posted by MizzouRider

I was able to get the routes loaded as gdb files. However, none of them see to be active.
I tried loading them to the card, and to the internal memory. I see the routes in Route Planner, but when I click on the actual route it does not allow me to "go" the "go" button is active for earlier routes I tried to set up using the Montana, but not with the routes I loaded from mapsource.
When I zoom in on the route, it goes blank every other push of the + button. Then reappears when I push the + button again. Then the Montana just shuts off. It acts like it's corrupted or something. I have to keep restarting it..
Any suggestions?

Definitely sounds like an issue with those routes. Are they all doing it, or only some of them?

Which versions of MapSource & BaseCamp are you using?

May need to send one of the offending routes to Garmin for testing.

If you want to send a few of them to MontanaGPSrWiki at gmail.com, in both GCD and GPX format (they must be inside a zipped container), I would be more than happy to see what I can determine.

[ramz]

JaVaWa Device Manager can check gpx files (and others) and fix some problems.

http://www.javawa.nl/jdm_en.html

I used it to find and fix several map problems. Give it a try.

[MizzouRider]

I think the problem is with my basecamp. I had these routes loaded in my 2730 before I sold it. They were fine.
I was hoping they'd load into the Montana. It appears to be a more challenging procedure to load routes into the Montana vs the 2730. I guess that's progress??

[leftystrat62]

I've got a MAC,am using Basecamp and my montana with 100k topo installed. I purchased Sam's maps & roll charts a few winter's ago and am finally transferring the longitude/latitude points from my roll charts (for an upcoming trip)but have run into a problem in Utah. There are certain way points that are on the roll charts( and I can see in my bench mark maps) that do not land on "roads" in basecamp. I contacted garmin and they told me you can't force a track if there is no road to follow. Please tell me there is a way to connect waypoints out in the desert-shure hope they're wrong.
Here is a screen shot of where I ran into trouble. The bottom right corner shows the magenta line that has been following waypoints on roads. Then the ride leaves the road and goes up and right. I used purple circles to indicate the waypoints that are not on actual roads that I want the route to follow
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I ran into this earlier with one waypoint,and when I tried to add it to the other waypoints it would only reroute it on a road shown in basecamp. Can anyone help?

[atlas cached]

You can either change the Activity for the route to Direct, or create additional direct routes for the portions of the trip that are not on a road.

Wouldn't it be nice if Garmin had foreseen this very common issue, and allowed for user selected additional routing options within a single route, following roads where available, and using a user selected option for off road calculations, all within the same route?

[leftystrat62]

Originally Posted by atlas cached

You can either change the Activity for the route to Direct, or create additional direct routes for the portions of the trip that are not on a road.

Wouldn't it be nice if Garmin had foreseen this very common issue, and allowed for user selected additional routing options within a single route, following roads where available, and using a user selected option for off road calculations, all within the same route?

So once I change the activity in basecamp from Motorcycle to Direct do I just drag those purple way points in the box where I've been adding each wp? I'm scared to do something that will wipe out all the work I'm doing for this track. I'm still learning how to do this stuff.

[atlas cached]

Originally Posted by leftystrat62

So once I change the activity in basecamp from Motorcycle to Direct do I just drag those purple way points in the box where I've been adding each wp? I'm scared to do something that will wipe out all the work I'm doing for this track. I'm still learning how to do this stuff.

FIRST, right-click and DUPLICATE the track, and append the duplicate track name with 'test' or similar.

Now, test away with the new TEST track, not disturbing your original.

I have a Folder List named TEST where I move all my testing files to, so I know if I am in that folder List only, I can safely modify routes and tracks, etc. without worry.

Have you seen the BaseCamp wiki?

Link is around here somewhere :)

[leftystrat62]

Originally Posted by atlas cached

FIRST, right-click and DUPLICATE the track, and append the duplicate track name with 'test' or similar.

Now, test away with the new TEST track, not disturbing your original.

I have a Folder List named TEST where I move all my testing files to, so I know if I am in that folder List only, I can safely modify routes and tracks, etc. without worry.

Have you seen the BaseCamp wiki?

Link is around here somewhere :)

I duplicated it as a test, tried direct route,and the 1st wp worked,but every one that followed didn't work properly. It would draw a line from the last wp that was on the road to each purple dot individually? Any idea how to force those purple dots to connect?

[sdthorpe]

Sorry if this has been asked;

Is there any way to thicken the track on the screen? Can be hard to see at times...

Can't find a way to do it, this is my only complaint on an otherwise awesome unit!

[Rocky TFS]

Originally Posted by sdthorpe

Sorry if this has been asked;

Is there any way to thicken the track on the screen? Can be hard to see at times...

Can't find a way to do it, this is my only complaint on an otherwise awesome unit!

No, and it has been requested as of November. What you CAN do is to change the track color to red, the most visible.

Setup>Tracks>Color

[AugustFalcon]

Originally Posted by leftystrat62

I duplicated it as a test, tried direct route,and the 1st wp worked,but every one that followed didn't work properly. It would draw a line from the last wp that was on the road to each purple dot individually? Any idea how to force those purple dots to connect?

You need to do a TRACK not a ROUTE for that section.

That means you first need to find a map which shows the actual road/trail your are to follow. CNNA will not show all trails/roads on the TAT. Sometimes I used TOPO 2008 or Google Earth. Then you need to draw a TRACK by clicking along the road/trail leaving little track points from WAYPOINT TO WAYPOINT.

[leftystrat62]

Originally Posted by AugustFalcon

You need to do a TRACK not a ROUTE for that section.

That means you first need to find a map which shows the actual road/trail your are to follow. CNNA will not show all trails/roads on the TAT. Sometimes I used TOPO 2008 or Google Earth. Then you need to draw a TRACK by clicking along the road/trail leaving little track points from WAYPOINT TO WAYPOINT.

What is CNNA? Is there a way that I can add Topo 2008 or google earth maps into my basecamp and still continue where I left off? Or will I need to start all over with something like google earth? I honestly wouldn't even know how to begin doing anything other than what I've been doing in basecamp. Any help how to direct me to get started?

[Emmbeedee]

Any Mac/Montana users out there still going through the problem of ejecting the Montana safely after it was connected to your computer?

This helps: JaVaWa Clean Eject

Here's a bit of information from the site:

"Note: some devices (like the Garmin Montana) automatically reconnect after ejecting. You can prevent this by letting CleanEject not to eject the device, but to de-activate it instead. It somewhat the same thing: the volume is closed so that file corruption cannot occur; the difference is that the device will not be switched off.

This can be accomplished by putting a text file with the name unmountme.txt in the root folder of the device. When you have a Garmin Montana it is sufficient to place this file on the SD card only."

[bemiiten]

Originally Posted by AugustFalcon

You need to do a TRACK not a ROUTE for that section.

That means you first need to find a map which shows the actual road/trail your are to follow. CNNA will not show all trails/roads on the TAT. Sometimes I used TOPO 2008 or Google Earth. Then you need to draw a TRACK by clicking along the road/trail leaving little track points from WAYPOINT TO WAYPOINT.

When these sections that require tracks come up during the ride, will you have to switch from the route file your following to a separate track file for the unmaped portion, and then yet a 3rd file when you reach the other side?