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Old 03-19-2013, 01:41 PM   #7276
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The 100K topo map from Garmin is not routable.
There is a new series of 100K topo maps from Garmin that IS routeable. Here are hi-lites from the Southwest map.

TOPO U.S. 100K - Southwest

$ 59.99 USD

Provides detailed digital topographic maps, comparable to 1:100,000 scale USGS maps.
Contains roads, trails and highways in metropolitan and rural areas so getting to your destination is easy by creating point-to-point routes on compatible devices.

Version: 5.00
Released: January 2013
Part Number: 010-D1312-00

Use with One Device Only

This product may be unlocked and used on 1 compatible device. If you want to use this same map on subsequent units, you must purchase a new map for each device.

Data downloaded to a microSD/SD card is associated with the device you select during the download process. Please purchase additional quantities for additional devices.

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=255&pID=127640



Here is the entire US version.

TOPO U.S. 100K
Version: 5.00
Released: January 2013

DVD ( $ 99.99 USD )
microSD™/SD™ card ( $ 99.99 USD )
Download ( $ 99.99 USD )

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=255&pID=127633






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This series is more like the CNNA by allowing routing and locking to devices than the older 24K and even older 100K.

So to be clear, we should call maps in the new 100K series 2013 100K map; i.e. 2013 100K Southwest or some such.
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:01 PM   #7277
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Hate to point this out but the 100K Topo maps are only point-to-point routable not turn by turn. See line 2 (copied from Garmins site):

Provides detailed digital topographic maps, comparable to 1:100,000 scale USGS maps.
Includes updated road content, by NAVTEQ (non-routable),
Contains detailed hydrographic features, including coastlines, lake/river shorelines, wetlands and perennial and seasonal streams.
Includes searchable points of interests, such as parks, campgrounds, scenic lookouts and picnic sites.
Provides elevation profile on compatible devices so you can estimate terrain difficulty.
Contains roads, trails and highways in metropolitan and rural areas so getting to your destination is easy by creating point-to-point routes on compatible devices.
Displays national, state and local parks, forests and wilderness areas.

If I understand this correctly it will route as straight line navigation where the 24K Garmin Topo maps WILL route you turn by turn.

Hopefully one the gurus will be along to clarify if I got this all wrong...
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:03 PM   #7278
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Did you have the barometer set to record while the gps is off? That would use some power.
I don't think so: Setup>Altimeter> auto cal = on, baro mode = variable elevation, Pressure Trending = save when power on, Plot type = Elevation/Distance
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:06 PM   #7279
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There is a new series of 100K topo maps from Garmin that IS routeable. Here are hi-lites from the Southwest map.

TOPO U.S. 100K - Southwest
Version: 5.00
Released: January 2013
Part Number: 010-D1312-00

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=255&pID=127640


TOPO U.S. 100K
Version: 5.00
Released: January 2013
DVD ( $ 99.99 USD )
microSD™/SD™ card ( $ 99.99 USD )
Download ( $ 99.99 USD )

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=255&pID=127633
From the pages you link to: "Includes updated road content, by NAVTEQ (non-routable)"
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:21 PM   #7280
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I highly recommend NW Topos from Switchbacks. Not routable, but very detailed.
Those are gorgeous!! Unfortunately they haven't gotten around to SE Oregon or SW Idaho yet.
It will be nice not to have to enable/disable all those individual state maps from GPSFILEDEPOT.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:18 PM   #7281
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From the pages you link to: "Includes updated road content, by NAVTEQ (non-routable)"
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If I understand this correctly it will route as straight line navigation where the 24K Garmin Topo maps WILL route you turn by turn.
I NEVER route, so the subtly escaped me.

Never mind.



But wait.
Don't forget about locking to devices....
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:58 PM   #7282
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Why would someone buy the CNNA (DVD) or any of the maps on DVD which can only be used on one GPS, when they state that you can use the MICRO SD card on multiple GPS?

2nd question~ Are you able to download multi map sets to the GPS or will you need to use an SD card for more space?

Sorry for all the newbie questions. I just want to try and get the correct setup the first time.

What is the benefit of buy the DVD verse the SD Card?

Thanks, for all the great info thus far!!
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:49 PM   #7283
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Why would someone buy the CNNA (DVD) or any of the maps on DVD which can only be used on one GPS, when they state that you can use the MICRO SD card on multiple GPS?

What is the benefit of buy the DVD verse the SD Card?
Why buy the DVD and not the uSD or download version, you ask?

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2nd question~ Are you able to download multi map sets to the GPS or will you need to use an SD card for more space?
If you just purchased the map you wanted on uSD card, and the GPS only accepts one uSD card at a time, any other maps you want to use that do not fit on the GPSr device memory will have to go on a second uSD card, and you will have to swap them each time you want to use the other map, and never will you be able to use them together.

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Sorry for all the newbie questions. I just want to try and get the correct setup the first time.

Thanks, for all the great info thus far!!
Absolutely!

At least you are asking before the remorse sets in.....
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:50 PM   #7284
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If you just purchased the map you wanted on uSD card, and the GPS only accepts one uSD card at a time, any other maps you want to use that do not fit on the GPSr device memory will have to go on a second uSD card, and you will have to swap them each time you want to use the other map, and never will you be able to use them together.
Actually, you can put multiple maps on a single uSD card. I have the Topo 100k and the US NT maps on my uSD card. I keep the BirdsEye imagery and the Topo 24k on the 650t built-in memory. As long as you change the default names of the map images, you can move them around at will under the Garmin directory, either on the uSD or the unit.

That said, I only buy the download files. I keep a copy of each one in a folder on my hard drive. Works great.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:20 PM   #7285
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Actually, you can put multiple maps on a single uSD card..
In theory, yes, but the sd card Garmin puts City Nav on is fairly small, a 2 gig card if memory serves me well, so you can't have much more than the original map on that card.

I do have CNNA on an SD card bought from Garmin and I use it a lot, in my 62S which has 1.7 gigs onboard for the other maps I want to use, so I'm happy with the sd version.

The problem with the sd card version is it can't be updated without buying a whole new card/version. And if you're using it in an antique gps like a 60/76Cx, you can't have any other maps as well since they don't have any onboard ram to store the maps on.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:43 PM   #7286
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In theory, yes, but the sd card Garmin puts City Nav on is fairly small, a 2 gig card if memory serves me well, so you can't have much more than the original map on that card.

I do have CNNA on an SD card bought from Garmin and I use it a lot, in my 62S which has 1.7 gigs onboard for the other maps I want to use, so I'm happy with the sd version.

The problem with the sd card version is it can't be updated without buying a whole new card/version. And if you're using it in an antique gps like a 60/76Cx, you can't have any other maps as well since they don't have any onboard ram to store the maps on.
It's not a theory that you can have multiple maps on a single card. I have multiple maps on my uSD card. I didn't say I used the Garmin uSD card. I said I downloaded the maps.

I fully agree that buying maps on the SD cards is a poor choice.

I was only commenting to one aspect of the previous comment, that implied only one map can be on an SD card.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:53 PM   #7287
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I may have asked this before, but...

Does anyone know how the Montana organizes the list of routes? I usually number my routes when I create them on the computer to keep them in order but they seem to come up in random order on the Montana.

Any hints about how to name things so you can find them without going through the whole list?

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It's not a theory that you can have multiple maps on a single card. I have multiple maps on my uSD card. I didn't say I used the Garmin uSD card. I said I downloaded the maps.

I fully agree that buying maps on the SD cards is a poor choice.

I was only commenting to one aspect of the previous comment, that implied only one map can be on an SD card.
Boughton mentioned the Garmin SD card, so that's why I mentioned that drawback on the Garmin card.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:58 PM   #7289
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Boughton mentioned the Garmin SD card, so that's why I mentioned that drawback on the Garmin card.
I'm not arguing the point. I'm adding information.
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I may have asked this before, but...

Does anyone know how the Montana organizes the list of routes? I usually number my routes when I create them on the computer to keep them in order but they seem to come up in random order on the Montana.

Any hints about how to name things so you can find them without going through the whole list?

.........shu
Garmin lists them by proximity. The nearest to you are at the top of the list.

You vill eventually stop vanting any ozer vay.

Complain. Write Garmin. It's effective at helping you forget how annoying it is. Don't expect it to change, though. We've been asking for that for ages.
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