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Old 06-11-2013, 12:43 PM   #8341
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What I've noticed is that the Montana seems to put a ridiculously high premium on left and U-turns for some reason. It won't avoid them entirely but it will route through three or four times as many right turns and double the route distance along BS roads to avoid them. It doesn't seem to put an appropriate cost on streets with lots of traffic lights, etc.
In which Routing Activity are you seeing this behavior? Is it repeatable?
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:41 PM   #8342
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I only use "automotive" (or direct, but not a factor)...
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Old 06-11-2013, 05:00 PM   #8343
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The pointer when using tracks

Can anybody tell me what the pointer that I have in the small data fields dashboard is pointing at when I'm navigating a track? It seems to be pointing all over the place. chip
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Old 06-11-2013, 06:41 PM   #8344
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Can anybody tell me what the pointer that I have in the small data fields dashboard is pointing at when I'm navigating a track? It seems to be pointing all over the place. chip
Sounds like a Jeopardy question to me....

A: What is the Pointer Field? Graphical indication of bearing. The arrow will point in the direction from your current position to the destination of navigation.
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Old 06-11-2013, 06:41 PM   #8345
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Can anybody tell me what the pointer that I have in the small data fields dashboard is pointing at when I'm navigating a track? It seems to be pointing all over the place. chip
The final waypoint in the track you are navigating.
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:24 PM   #8346
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My 650t doesn't point to the final waypoint and it shouldn't. (See the manual page 56 Data Fields Pointer.) If I'm following a route it does point to the next waypoint like the manual says it should. I wish it did point to the final waypoint, but it doesn't. I used BC to convert a route to a track. Then I used the 650t to reverse the track. If I navigate the original track or the reverse track the 650t points to something other. Sometimes it even points behind me like the 650t has arbitrary made some waypoints and it is pointing to them. chip
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:16 PM   #8347
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My 650t doesn't point to the final waypoint and it shouldn't. (See the manual page 56 Data Fields Pointer.) If I'm following a route it does point to the next waypoint like the manual says it should. I wish it did point to the final waypoint, but it doesn't. I used BC to convert a route to a track. Then I used the 650t to reverse the track. If I navigate the original track or the reverse track the 650t points to something other. Sometimes it even points behind me like the 650t has arbitrary made some waypoints and it is pointing to them. chip
Oops, my bad.
Next waypoint in the track, or destination waypoint if navigating to a waypoint.

Of course, the Distance to Destination Data Field will give you that information, but not the navigation arrow.
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Next waypoint in the track, or destination waypoint if navigating to a waypoint.

Of course, the Distance to Destination Data Field will give you that information, but not the navigation arrow.

Does anyone know what the "distance to next" field is referring to when navigating a track? It seems to refer to some arbitrary point on the track, and then when that point is passed it starts indicating some other arbitrary point.

Observe this all the time when navigating tracks on the Montana. There are no waypoints, just a track. Shouldn't it just be the same point as "distance to destination" since that technically is the "next" point?
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:57 AM   #8349
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Does anyone know what the "distance to next" field is referring to when navigating a track? It seems to refer to some arbitrary point on the track, and then when that point is passed it starts indicating some other arbitrary point.

Observe this all the time when navigating tracks on the Montana. There are no waypoints, just a track. Shouldn't it just be the same point as "distance to destination" since that technically is the "next" point?
When you navigate a Track, if the maps you are using have Elevation Data, then the Track will have Accent/Decent "waypoints" for major changes in elevation. These are the "waypoints" that the Montana is using. If you don't want them, before you View your track on the map, Disable any map that has elevation data. Once a Track in the Track Manager has had elevation data added you can't remove it in the unit.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:02 AM   #8350
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Adventure Addict, I think your question is related to my question. When navigating a tract the pointer seems to be pointing to some arbitrary waypoint. When I go to active route it shows waypoints. These waypoints are high and low points on the route. I thought at first that the pointer was pointing to them and it does but it seems to point to other waypoints too. I don't understand what is going on either. chip
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:17 AM   #8351
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Dan, Are saying if I have the topos shut off I won't get the elevation waypoints on a track? Then will the pointer point to the destination? chip
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:43 AM   #8352
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Dan, Are saying if I have the topos shut off I won't get the elevation waypoints on a track? Then will the pointer point to the destination? chip
No. I said ANY map that has Elevation Data - that would include the DEM Base Map on the Montana. DEM=Digital Elevation Model.

Also, keep in mind that if you do have Waypoints on your Montana that are within 200ft of the Track, when you navigate the TRACK the Montana will include them in your navigation info. So, yes your Pointer can be pointing in all kinds of directions other than your Destination as you travel along the Tracks path.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:12 AM   #8353
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Dan, Thanks for the help. I understand now. chip
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:26 AM   #8354
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The net in all of this discussion regarding Bearing Pointer is that if you want to have a Bearing [line] Pointer pointing to your Final Destination, then don't Navigate a Track simply follow it. Set your Routing to Direct, select your Destination Waypoint, View Map and select GO. You will now have the Track to follow and a Line & pointer to indicate the Bearing to your Destination. You can use the Compass in CDI (Course Deviation Indicator) as your Dashboard as well.

Example: Starting a CDI Direct Route (using Compass) while following a Track.



The Magenta Line is of course your Direct Route. But, there is a smaller Magenta/White line that is your BEARING line to your Destination. It will move with you as does the Compass IF you have set the Compass to CDI mode.



By the way, if you're concerned that the Compass is upside down, I had just lost satellite lock and turned around when I captured the screen - it's my favorite screenshot.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:37 AM   #8355
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Also, keep in mind that if you do have Waypoints on your Montana that are within 200ft of the Track, when you navigate the TRACK the Montana will include them in your navigation info.
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