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Old 01-02-2014, 11:26 AM   #10156
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Altimeter, Barometer, eCompass
Ah. There is a compass of some sort under apps.
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Old 01-02-2014, 11:47 AM   #10157
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It's just your GPS heading. It isn't an electronic Compass (which can be used with the GPS turned off) like in the handhelds.
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Old 01-02-2014, 04:14 PM   #10158
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Whoops. I hard wired the Montana cradle to my R100GS a couple of months ago. I realized that this was a bad idea the other day when I wanted to use the Montana on my G450X. I'm glad the cradle and RAM ball isn't terribly expensive. I've ordered a second one. And I knew about Embeedee's suggestion about using a quick connect power plug! Oh, well. I don't know what I was thinking. I've got the SAE connector sitting up there at the handle bars, too.

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Old 01-02-2014, 05:43 PM   #10159
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Gorgeous bike, but shouldn't you be using an Abacus for period authenticity?
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Old 01-02-2014, 05:49 PM   #10160
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Old 01-02-2014, 05:49 PM   #10161
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Gorgeous bike, but shouldn't you be using an Abacus for period authenticity?
oi! they had digital calculators then!
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Old 01-02-2014, 05:51 PM   #10162
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Gorgeous bike, but shouldn't you be using an Abacus for period authenticity?

I was thinking a roll chart holder and a pocket watch holder (old time Enduro time keeping gear)
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Old 01-03-2014, 10:22 AM   #10163
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Hi Guys,

(please scroll to the bottom for my questions, turns out there's really only 1 but I couldn't help adding context)

I think I've settled on the Montana as my first real GPS device. What an overwhelming, far from straight forward process that was.

I rented an R1200GS in Portugal a few months back and had a blast with my wife, we did about 1000 miles, and found some fantastic places to ride out of pure luck really. It wasn't even really meant to be a "motorcycle" trip, we just rented one because we thought it'd be more fun than a car to get from place to place. We ended up riding along the Portugal coast then into the mountains of southern Spain, I had no idea how awesome Ronda for adventure riders. We're hooked.

To help out on the trip, I ended up getting an international data plan for my Galaxy Note 2, a waterproof handlebar mounted case, and a charger. This was okay, except I was using google maps for navigation, which cant add waypoints so I was constantly pulling over to create new directions. The phone also doesn't get that bright in the sun, especially behind the waterproof plastic cover. Its nearly impossible to use with gloves on, even thin summer ones. It overheats when its over 80 degrees outside and charging. I could only find a 1A charger for BMW bikes which is not good enough in the daylight with screen showing bright colors at its highest brightness. Etc, etc, you get the point.

I don't have an adventure bike yet but I do currently do a lot of enduro/dual-sport riding on my 450. It's a honda motocross bike (crf450r) that I completely converted for enduro. I added an electrical system and lights and had it plated for the small amount of time I need to spend on roads to get from place to place.

So I've learned a bit from my portugal/spain experience and ended up developing a list of features that I want in a GPS device that can handle both types of riding (off-road oriented dual-sport and more on-road oriented adventure riding) before I set out to do some research on which to get. It turns out my list is very similar to DRTBYK's list. Thanks for all the articles by the way on your website, these were very imformative! I can't believe how weak the offerings are, every device has some sort of compromise it seems.

Since Hercules just dumped around 2 feet of snow here, I'm not going to ride my dirtbike for a while but I'd like to start planning a big trip this summer for when I get an adventure bike (probably the new KTM 1190 Adventure R). I downloaded the basecamp software but there doesn't seem like there's much to do without a device. Can I purchase maps on Garmins website and use them in Basecamp without owning a device yet? I would just go out and buy one, but I don't really need anything until the early summer, and who knows, I may decide I want something else by then. However, I would really like to start planning a trip now. I was able to easily load all my google MyTracks files into basecamp. I bet it would be easy to edit those and load them back into MyTracks until I get something. So I could probably wait until I actually get an adventure bike before purchasing.

BTW, DRTBYK, you seem to always mention you list of "recommended" devices for dual-sport/adventure riding. Where is that list?!?!


In summary:

1. Can I purchase maps on Garmins website and use them in Basecamp without owning a device yet?

2. Where is DRTBYK's recommended list of GPS devices?!?!


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Old 01-03-2014, 11:54 AM   #10164
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Hi Guys,

(please scroll to the bottom for my questions, turns out there's really only 1 but I couldn't help adding context)

BTW, DRTBYK, you seem to always mention you list of "recommended" devices for dual-sport/adventure riding. Where is that list?!?!

In summary:

1. Can I purchase maps on Garmins website and use them in Basecamp without owning a device yet?

2. Where is DRTBYK's recommended list of GPS devices?!?!


Thanks,
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1. Depends upon the maps you want to purchase. Garmin "locks" most routable maps to a single device (GPS). The exception being US Topo 24K regional maps (they're expensive). You need to unlock the map in order to see it's high definition. **Unless you purchase maps on a SD Card - which in most cases I don't recommend.

2. Man, and all these years I thought I could skate by without publishing a "list" It's actually buried on the GlobeRiders web site but I haven't updated it the past year - which I now have to do.
  • GPSMAP 276, 376, 478 or EU verions
  • zumo 660/665
  • Montana 600 Series (600, 650, 650t & yes, even the camo)
  • Monterra (conditionally - what's the condition you might ask? You have to know ALL of its shortcomings.)
  • BMW Motorrad Nav-IV, Nav-V
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Old 01-03-2014, 12:44 PM   #10165
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1. Depends upon the maps you want to purchase. Garmin "locks" most routable maps to a single device (GPS). The exception being US Topo 24K regional maps (they're expensive). You need to unlock the map in order to see it's high definition. **Unless you purchase maps on a SD Card - which in most cases I don't recommend.

2. Man, and all these years I thought I could skate by without publishing a "list" It's actually buried on the GlobeRiders web site but I haven't updated it the past year - which I now have to do.
  • GPSMAP 276, 376, 478 or EU verions
  • zumo 660/665
  • Montana 600 Series (600, 650, 650t & yes, even the camo)
  • Monterra (conditionally - what's the condition you might ask? You have to know ALL of its shortcomings.)
  • BMW Motorrad Nav-IV, Nav-V
1. I'm actually most interested in the 24k topo map for my dirtbike. We're always looking for crazy hill climbs in the woods, and having the ability to do turn by turn for far away places is nice. This, combined with the Birdseye satellite imagery to help us find existing trails/open areas should provide everything I need. For the adventure trip, I can added the 24k topo for the area that I need (eastern Canada, we're thinking). So you are saying, if I buy the downloadable 24k TOPO maps, I can use them in basecamp without a device? What about the Satellite images?

Also, along these lines, if I add multiple 24k topo maps that are adjacent to each other, can I make routeable directions that cross one another?

2. If I didn't bore you with my last post, would you agree with me on the Montana being the best fit for what I need? For the dirtbike btw, I don't have enough electrical oomph to charge a GPS, so being able to carry extra (rechargeable) AA batteries for longer days seems pretty awesome.


I have another question, a little off topic from the Montana. How good (resolution and up-to-date) are the Birdseye satellite images for the Northeast US (Massachusetts more specifically) compared to Google? We have found all of our favorite riding areas by actually seeing them on google maps.
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Old 01-03-2014, 12:50 PM   #10166
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1. I'm actually most interested in the 24k topo map for my dirtbike.
I run the Garmin city streets, than installed the Free topomaps from GPSFileDepot. Sure they don't route, but when you have both maps turned on, the city street map routes, and the topo map layers the ground contour on top of the garmin maps. I have a shortcut to Toggle the topo maps on and off. Works pretty good.
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Old 01-03-2014, 12:54 PM   #10167
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I was thinking a roll chart holder and a pocket watch holder (old time Enduro time keeping gear)
Simpler times. I traded a 2013 F800GS for this old Airhead.
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Old 01-03-2014, 01:14 PM   #10168
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Simpler times. I traded a 2013 F800GS for this old Airhead.
And I just traded a 2010 F800gs for a new Wasser Head
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Old 01-03-2014, 01:33 PM   #10169
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I run the Garmin city streets, than installed the Free topomaps from GPSFileDepot. Sure they don't route, but when you have both maps turned on, the city street map routes, and the topo map layers the ground contour on top of the garmin maps. I have a shortcut to Toggle the topo maps on and off. Works pretty good.
I have City Nav on my Montana 650 and have tried to load a few of the GPSFileDepot topo maps. I have them successfully downloaded but I can't open them in Basecamp. I can see them in the hard drive directory but Basecamp doesn't see them. I read on the map page that the 64 bit installer on Windows 7 presents a problem and one needs to load the 32 bit version.

Did you have any issues with the downloads you had to work through?
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Old 01-03-2014, 01:54 PM   #10170
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Did you have any issues with the downloads you had to work through?
None at all. I downloaded the files from GPSFileDepot, ran each one, and they showed up in BC immediately. Then I installed them to the Montana, archived the .img files back to the hard disk, and I swap them in and out occasionally. Then I usually delete the downloaded executables once I see and check out the map.

Now, I did all this well BEFORE the latest 4.2.5 release....YMMV.

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