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Old 07-27-2012, 03:12 PM   #706
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Was thinking of the E-09 Dakar front but haven't seen one in real life yet and some don't seem to like them much.
dont like em, knobs too short. My favourite combo on the AT is E09 Dakar rear and Trelleborg Army special front
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Old 07-27-2012, 04:16 PM   #707
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I'm not a fan of the E09 front either. On the front of my DR, I've used a 606, and a couple of MT21s, and now using Pirelli Scorpion Rally up front, with a new one, and a new E07 rear just fitted to head to Qld next week. The E09 front just doesn't have enough knob to bite, or something, for me. Still like the E09s up back, but a T63 does the same thing, for a lot less $ here at the moment. The Scorpion Rally front is excellent everywhere, and lasts about the same as an MT21 and doesn't need turning to even up the wear. Guess I gotta try a Army Special sometime.

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Old 07-29-2012, 05:24 AM   #708
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Thanks for the ideas, will check out a few.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:22 PM   #709
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dont like em, knobs too short. My favourite combo on the AT is E09 Dakar rear and Trelleborg Army special front
how many k's are you getting out of the t-644 Greg
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:28 AM   #710
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... XT-644 .... pls ....
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:57 AM   #711
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... no no ,... its almost the same tire
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Old 07-31-2012, 03:41 AM   #712
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how many k's are you getting out of the t-644 Greg
I fitted the Army Special front to my Super Tenere 750 and it currently has about 4500 km on it with only about 500km max left. That was on a lot of desert roads, a bit of high speed bitumen and a few sandy tracks. They take a bit of getting used to but are a far better handling knobby than a D606. Very little squirming of the blocks, reasonable steering response on bitumen even in pouring rain, slightly odd feel on dirt at first but confidence levels quickly grow with this tyre. You can actually really lay into a sandy or rutted corner and feel the tyre bite. It's a happy enough tyre on fast sweeping bitumen at high speed as well. Feedback was good with no unexpected slides, however I did manage to lock the front over a white painted railway crossing sign in the wet while commuting recently - it locked and unlocked almost immediately (I was braking moderately hard to do a hasty U-turn on a wet road at the time, so more my fault than the tyre, although it's the first front that's ever done that to me.) I only encountered a little bit of black mud on tour but the grip was again very impressive. They self clean easily and cop a decent hammering through ruts, ledges and potholes. I actually expected a couple of punctures from hard impacts but it never happened. The only odd thing about this tyre was when mounting it, the bead never seemed to sit properly - as in the tyre sidewall popping over the edge of the rim bead - so it never looked like it was beaded properly. However it mounts quickly and easily, never rotated even a millimetre (no rim lock fitted either) and could be run at lower pressures on the big bike without any concern for it demounting. I ran it around 32 to 26 psi mainly, dropping down to 14psi in some really soft stuff. It seems happier at about 26psi on sandy gravel. There's no directionality to this tyre, so a little bit more life could be had from the tyre by turning it once moderate ramping of the knob blocks occurs, which I didn't bother with.
It probably wore quicker than I expected from a Mitas tyre, but for the money paid, I'm happy with it.

Conversely, I only managed to get about 100 kilometres out of a brand new July/2012 build dated Mitas E09 Dakar 140/80 - 17 rear before it was ruined by a puncture - the inner sidewalls destroyed themselves before I felt the tyre had gone flat. This left deep 5cm long diagonal slits in the inner sidewall that ruined this new tyre. Not real happy about that. Has the sidewall construction or rubber compound or thickness been changed to cause this? I guess it balances the brilliant mileage I got from the last one (13000 kms) I had. The previous one I managed to ride flat twice for reasonably similar distances without any obvious damage occurring.
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:16 AM   #713
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Thanks Sundowner just the info i was after .... was going to get a big block but they didnt have one so trying the Scorpion rally, hoping to get about 6000kms out of it
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:23 AM   #714
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how many k's are you getting out of the t-644 Greg
hard to say as I swap between 2 sets of wheels nd dont really keep track, ut it seems to last a reasonable amount as Ive had a newie in the garage ready to fit for the last 6 months but havent needed too
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:26 PM   #715
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:52 PM   #716
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140/80/18

Do Mitas make a 140/80/18
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:27 AM   #717
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how many k's are you getting out of the t-644 Greg

Mine has 5400km. Started at 10mm and is currently 9 and 7mm toe/heal wear. Did the first 1500 to wear the tits off the centre knobs!

Like it in sand, gravel, and dry bitumen. Some mud today also no issue, have not encountered wet bitumen yet. E07 rear is 1.5mm off the solid centre in the same distance, so maybe a 1000 left.

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I reckon the 644 will see off two E07's on the rear

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Old 08-06-2012, 10:42 PM   #718
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Is there an ADV discount for Mitas tyres here in Aus???

Where would be the cheapest place to pick one up?

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Old 08-08-2012, 06:35 PM   #719
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If you dont have a local dealer the distributor used to sell direct, but I think they have dealers most places now.

Most of the mail order sellers seem to want the fitted price , with silly postage costs added too.

My local guy will supply and fit a pair ( 21/18") of E07s for $230- for my G/S, which is just about as cheap as you will get for that sort of tire, fitted or not.

Hopefully they will last a bit longer than the 4000 km I am getting from the Scorpion ATs.
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:00 PM   #720
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just got back from the OCR and the rear EO7 was fantastic ... still about 50% left ... did a shit load of ks on the tar as well, 6500ks in total and will stick with them for now ... very happy camper
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