gs1200 / change abs brakes for standard anybody?

Rajaviento · 05-22-2011, 11:15 PM

I have a gs1200 / 2006 with abs/servo assisted and i would like to exchange it for a regular ''japanese'' system, anybody has knowledge on how to proceed?
Emilio

JimVonBaden · 05-23-2011, 05:05 AM

Do a search over on G-Spot. It has been done, and the process fairly well laid out.

Jim

Apxgrndr · 05-23-2011, 10:30 AM

Can I ask why you want to switch ? I took the GS out and really tried the brakes out for the first time a couple of nights ago. I couldn't believe how well the abs works.
I've always been dubious about abs on a motorcycle but not anymore, especially threshold braking with that pea gravel on the road.

Rajaviento · 05-24-2011, 10:02 PM

The brakes are servo assisted and do not work well with engine off,,, problem when dirt riding

JimVonBaden · 05-25-2011, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajaviento

The brakes are servo assisted and do not work well with engine off,,, problem when dirt riding

You ride in the dirt with the engine off???

Jim

DELTATANGO · 05-25-2011, 04:55 AM

Don't turn off the key and wheel into the garage.

Don't do that. Don't ask me why........

MJS · 05-25-2011, 07:20 AM

I'll try to answer any questions

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=343508&page=2

Rajaviento · 05-25-2011, 08:17 AM

When rolling down a very steep downhill..... is good practice to turn off the engine and use the clutch as a rear brake (with the bike in first gear). Simply

JimVonBaden · 05-25-2011, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajaviento

When rolling down a very steep downhill..... is good practice to turn off the engine and use the clutch as a rear brake (with the bike in first gear). Simply

Maybe I am missing something, but why not use the brake? Using the clutch is hard on the clutch, and if you suddenly find you need power you are SOL!

Jim

mazinger · 05-25-2011, 11:55 PM

Emilio is right if you are really doing hard offroad.
Sometimes, when you are descending a really steep hill, with lots of loose stones and gravel, best way to assure your stability and not to fall and roll down is to put both feet on the ground; the problem is that you need to break and your right foot is touching ground, avoiding you to fall rightwards. In this situation is very helpful to stop the engine and use the clutch as a rear break, while using also the front lever with care...
Besides there has been some reported crashed caused by the electric breakes failuring for lack of voltage. In fact I think this system was a failed experiment by BMW because they never used it again (later series were manufactured with standard hydraulic system). Also the electric brakes are very rude at low speeds...
In my experience I had to ride thru more than 2500 kms in Bolivia and Chile without the electric powered brakes due to a failure in the lever contacts, and believe me it is hard (and long) to break without the assistance...
Rgds
Miguel
(mine is a '04 GS12)

JimVonBaden · 05-26-2011, 05:05 AM

Miguel,

Seems like an extreme situation, and to be honest I would probably not have used a GS for that, but if I did I would not have a servo-GS just for that reason. But if I did, I would have carried a couple standard connectors and converted my dead servo-ABS to standard brakes.

At any rate, for 99.9% of the people on a GS riding with the motor off is a non-issue.

Jim

ONandOFF · 02-18-2013, 06:50 AM

Right on. Personally I would consider that an emergency situation - one to take every effort to avoid!

Steptoe · 02-18-2013, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJS

I'll try to answer any questions

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=343508&page=2

You made it difficult for yourself.

Just unscrew the small electrical unit from servo (4 screws) and leave it plugged into the loom. Remove the rest of servo and dispose of

bloochdog · 02-18-2013, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajaviento

The brakes are servo assisted and do not work well with engine off,,, problem when dirt riding

I find that riding is enhanced with the motor running.

Servo brakes are weird voodoo..

BobbySands · 02-18-2013, 02:12 PM

quit making me laugh out loud in the middle of a room filled with solemn people not interested in fun or laughter.

05-22-2011, 11:15 PM	#1
Rajaviento ^OP Ride with the wind.. Joined: Apr 2011 Location: Simi Valley, California Oddometer: 7	gs1200 / change abs brakes for standard anybody? I have a gs1200 / 2006 with abs/servo assisted and i would like to exchange it for a regular ''japanese'' system, anybody has knowledge on how to proceed? Emilio

05-23-2011, 05:05 AM	#2
JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid! Joined: Feb 2005 Location: Alexandria, VA Oddometer: 41,498	Do a search over on G-Spot. It has been done, and the process fairly well laid out. Jim __________________ Click here for BMW Maintenance and Repair DVDs and Corrections. "Combo-Order Discounts!"

05-23-2011, 10:30 AM	#3
Apxgrndr In the snow Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Up here Oddometer: 715	Can I ask why you want to switch ? I took the GS out and really tried the brakes out for the first time a couple of nights ago. I couldn't believe how well the abs works. I've always been dubious about abs on a motorcycle but not anymore, especially threshold braking with that pea gravel on the road. __________________ You're stronger than you think.

05-24-2011, 10:02 PM	#4
Rajaviento ^OP Ride with the wind.. Joined: Apr 2011 Location: Simi Valley, California Oddometer: 7	because,,,, The brakes are servo assisted and do not work well with engine off,,, problem when dirt riding

05-25-2011, 07:20 AM	#7
MJS Beastly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2005 Location: Ventura, CA Oddometer: 1,492	I've done mine I'll try to answer any questions http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=343508&page=2 __________________ "You can follow me, but it's gonna hurt"

05-25-2011, 04:55 AM	#6
DELTATANGO Motorcyclist and Dog Walk Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Alabama Oddometer: 12,658	Don't turn off the key and wheel into the garage. Don't do that. Don't ask me why........

05-25-2011, 08:17 AM	#8
Rajaviento ^OP Ride with the wind.. Joined: Apr 2011 Location: Simi Valley, California Oddometer: 7	down hill When rolling down a very steep downhill..... is good practice to turn off the engine and use the clutch as a rear brake (with the bike in first gear). Simply

05-25-2011, 11:55 PM	#10
mazinger Adventurer Joined: Jul 2004 Location: Madrid, SPAIN Oddometer: 81	Emilio is right if you are really doing hard offroad. Sometimes, when you are descending a really steep hill, with lots of loose stones and gravel, best way to assure your stability and not to fall and roll down is to put both feet on the ground; the problem is that you need to break and your right foot is touching ground, avoiding you to fall rightwards. In this situation is very helpful to stop the engine and use the clutch as a rear break, while using also the front lever with care... Besides there has been some reported crashed caused by the electric breakes failuring for lack of voltage. In fact I think this system was a failed experiment by BMW because they never used it again (later series were manufactured with standard hydraulic system). Also the electric brakes are very rude at low speeds... In my experience I had to ride thru more than 2500 kms in Bolivia and Chile without the electric powered brakes due to a failure in the lever contacts, and believe me it is hard (and long) to break without the assistance... Rgds Miguel (mine is a '04 GS12)

05-26-2011, 05:05 AM	#11
JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid! Joined: Feb 2005 Location: Alexandria, VA Oddometer: 41,498	Miguel, Seems like an extreme situation, and to be honest I would probably not have used a GS for that, but if I did I would not have a servo-GS just for that reason. But if I did, I would have carried a couple standard connectors and converted my dead servo-ABS to standard brakes. At any rate, for 99.9% of the people on a GS riding with the motor off is a non-issue. Jim __________________ Click here for BMW Maintenance and Repair DVDs and Corrections. "Combo-Order Discounts!"

02-18-2013, 06:50 AM	#12
ONandOFF Must / takeit / easy Joined: Aug 2009 Location: Harrisonboiig; Shenandoah Valley riding wonderland Oddometer: 4,393	Right on. Personally I would consider that an emergency situation - one to take every effort to avoid! __________________ Let's ride!!! - No offense, but there've been a lot of people over time who were just as sure, but got it wrong. - Una necedad, aunque la repitan millones de bocas, no deja de ser una necedad.

02-18-2013, 02:12 PM	#15
BobbySands JockeyfullofBourbon Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Your man of The Da Vinci Code. Oddometer: 5,650	quit making me laugh out loud in the middle of a room filled with solemn people not interested in fun or laughter. __________________ "So what makes this protest different is that you're set to die, Bobby?" --May well come to that. "You start a hunger strike to protest for what you believe in. You don't start already determined to die or am I missing somethin' here?" -- It's in their hands. Our message is clear. They're seeing our determination.

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