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Old 07-17-2011, 01:37 PM   #361
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Cool ride. Really enjoying this RR. Landscape is just magnificent!

Only difficult to get to from where I live. If there was a kind of ferry from Russia to Alaska,... I could start from Holland, drive through Turkey, then through Mongolia, up to Siberia, hop the ferry to Alaska, eat a burger in Dalson, visiting the two lovely ladies for thee, drive all the way through Canada, take the boat to iceland, from iceland to the Faroe Islands, Denmark and then back home. Sounds doable
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Old 07-17-2011, 04:23 PM   #362
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Made it from Deadhorse to Fairbanks 1 day! (800 KM)

July 16th 2011 Observation: The employees who work in Deadhorse, the staff at the hotel were all so polite and respectful. The hotel was super clean, The Prudhoe Bay Hotel that is, everyone opens and closes doors for you. No booze in town, hard working folks from all over the world made for just a nice short visit.


When we set out this morning we thought to ourselves why not try and get back to Fairbanks in one day? I mean it is only 800 KM of riding in unknown weather conditions as well as how the Dalton would be on the way down. I checked the weather before we left Deadhorse and it said moderate rain outside Deadhorse all the way to Coldfoot. That made it less promising that we could make it all the down but in the end we did. What a day of riding this was.



Riding into Deadhorse on the 15th was a killer because about 50 miles out they were grating the roads, spraying them with calcium chloride and adding fresh crushed gravel. Heading out we were apprehensive of the first 50 because of what we had encountered on the way in. Well, to our surprise we left around 0800 and we guess the grater operators may have been sleeping because the road was easy and smooth for the most part. What a difference a day makes.
The skies started out like this….

Not totally clear but light fluffy clouds not the dark ominous one’s that freak riders out.


I was just taking pictures from all angles while riding. Some are not too level.




The ride all the way to Atigun Pass was great and very enjoyable, the roads were relatively dry but the mosquitos were another story. All this trip we have not really encountered the bug attack until today. But keeping on rolling they can’t get you.


If you enlarge the pictures you can see the mosquitos in action. It’s kind a gross how they want to eat you so badly.




The Dalton is a decent road with many paved parts as nice surprises. But add rain to the mixture and this road becomes a hazard. That is the difference between the Dempster and Dalton. The Dempster has not one paved area and if raining you are on slippery stuff the whole way with no breaks.


lot’s of pretty smelling wild flowers all along the side of the road and up the hills.


The ground squirrels are out and about on the roads, they dodge right in front of your bike. I hit a bird the day before and Cheryl hit one of these cute critters today and broke her heart. Don’t have a picture but if you are riding up here in the summer they do make it hard to miss them.




Think I need to clean the lens of my camera. Being around my neck can’t be too good for the little guy.


As I was saying the ride to the pass was pretty easy and on and off paved, dirt, gravel riding. As got closer to Atigun Pass the weather people seemed to be correct. However, Cheryl kept saying she had a feeling it would clear up by 1600 hrs and we would be able to make it to Fairbanks. I was less optimistic than she, what else is new but you will later find out Cheryl was correct.






The skies up there are most amazing. I really have become fond of clouds and the array of patterns, colours and what it all means down on the ground level for us. We fear no rain anymore, we fear no wind as a matter we are just embracing whatever mother Nature has in store for us because why fight it? Makes us miserable and this happens to be the worst wet summer Alaska has seen in years and COLD.




Still at this point no sign of rain


We can do decent speeds at times on the Dalton. I can see 108 KM on the trip, only 700 more to go!






Just goes on and on forever it seems. Not a bad thing just so LARGE, larger than life it seems. One of our goals today was to make sure we did not dump the bikes are get hurt at all. Actually this is a goal everyday we just do not speak of it not to jinx us.


We need to mention at this point that Cheryl’s bike has been stalling a lot lately. We have some thoughts about why. One is that she rides behind me all the time and all this crap from the roads might be buggering up her radiator. When you look at both bikes they do not look much different in the amount of crud on them. The bike stalls when the ROM’s drop below 1000 and it is not a good thing. When the bike is cooled down it seems to start and not stall until the bike heats up. We are going to try and see if we can get into the Anchorage Triumph dealer and have the bikes checked out. Maybe a fuel injection issue? Whatever the case it sucks for Cheryl and is very stressful especially when riding int he back country.




For those who do not know the pipe line is pretty much seen from the road throughout the ride out.


We have not seen much wildlife since being in Alaska but today we got to see a Moose and her calf.






I could have stayed there until they left but time was a wasting and off we went.




clouds are getting thicker by now




With Cheryl’s bike stalling she was not very much into chatting. Understandable because we both can not really figure out how to stop this from happening so we just rode in silence most of the way.


Just going to post pics that lead us up to the pass. That is when I had to put the camera away for a while in a safe dry spot.














Self portrait again!






This is an Italian woman who is riding from Patagonia to Deadhorse. We past her and she was in great spirits, making videos and seems to be doing really well. She had 286 KM to go before she would reach her goal. Now that is IMPRESSIVE!


She was warning us of how bad the pass was.


getting closer


So interesting to see how the road looks just heading in a the other direction. It was like I was seeing this road for the first time even though we road it the day before.


Just have to show off the fork seals yet again. Amazing how well they are holding up.


The radiators are getting all cemented up but not much we can other then chip it away while on the road.


More scenic pictures








Coming up to Atigun pass this is what we began to see




Or could not see is better


Just LOVE this slippery cement goo!


Had to put the camera away at this point because it rained on us for the next few hours until Coldfoot


Down the road a bit we ran into our buddy Ray and we rode on and off together all the way out to the dorms in Fairbanks at the University.


there was a brief break when we got through the pass to eat something and of course what else, pee.




Needed to refuel, although these bikes are getting much better gas mileage since we broke 5000 KM just not enough to get out to Coldfoot.


Here is Ray. He left Deadhorse around 0630 and we caught up to him.


We all rode into Coldfoot, got gas, a bite to eat and made the decision there that we would at least get to the Yukon River motel/gas station and see how we feel about going all the way.




Ray cleaning his rad or trying too


and Cheryl was RIGHT, there was sun past Coldfoot and we all got rejuvenated and said what the hell let’s go to Fairbanks!


I think at this juncture we are still 6 hours away from the dorms




The road from Coldfoot to the Yukon was some paved, some chopped up pavement and that clay, hard pan stuff. Lucky for us it was mainly dry and the dust was kept down as well as any really slippery spots.






what a difference a few hundred miles can make with the weather and rider spirits.








How does an ADV rider clean his bike in the field? Ray knows, besides he invents things so this is no surprise he found a mud puddle to clean his bike.






it just getting nicer out and nicer. We knew we made the right decision despite how long of a ride this was. Under normal conditions like being on a paved road for over 800 KM would be easier but taken on the Dalton this way, well, we all felt pretty proud.


We have over 7500 KM on the bikes now, the tire are looking pretty good considering




The skid plate

We did say we wanted to keep these bikes. We are now thinking after this trip we want new bikes!


That is Ray with me passing him. Cheryl and I think he needs a bigger bike.


At the Yukon River


Taking a break before our last push for Fairbanks




The final stretch of the Dalton

















I am trying to take a picture of my shadow




Didn’t work out that great.






And coming to the final end of the Dalton before we hit the Elliott Highway to Fairbanks. All we can say is while you are in the middle of no where getting poured on and just trying to keep your bike in a straight line, not all thoughts in your head are good one at the time.

When you simply look back at what you just did, makes you shake your head and say WOW that was awesome. Awesome to not have dumped the bikes, we all got out safely, not bumps, bruises or anything. It was a long day, by last 40 KM my arms, wrists and shoulders were done. But it was all worth it to be able to say we went to Deadhorse and came back in one day!

Took us 12 hours riding time, 14 hour day.




Later Dalton!

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Old 07-17-2011, 05:11 PM   #363
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When did you last clean the air filters?
May be why Cheryl's is stalling?

Oh,and it's "grading"the road,not "grating".
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Old 07-17-2011, 06:25 PM   #364
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might be crud in the rad....we just going to see if the cleaning we gave it today "fixes" the problem.

Thanks about grading but if you knew me you would know I call things as I see them..the grate the crap outta of the roads. But yes i did mean grade and if you saw my video I also wrote goggle versus Google. Being tired...yeah, not...i do stuff like that all the time tired or not. We need a beer...just a a mid afternoon nap.
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Old 07-17-2011, 06:28 PM   #365
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When did you last clean the air filters?
May be why Cheryl's is stalling?

Oh,and it's "grading"the road,not "grating".
Also Fuel can play a part to the stalling...I know this has been debated elsewhere on this Forum. When I run 87 Gas & ride a long stretch of road at a slower space, the bike sometimes stalls when you slow down, like it seems to Carbon up. Run 93 Octane & I don't have that issue...FWIW.
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Old 07-17-2011, 06:31 PM   #366
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Also Fuel can play a part to the stalling...I know this has been debated elsewhere on this Forum. When I run 87 Gas & ride a long stretch of road at a slower space, the bike sometimes stalls when you slow down, like it seems to Carbon up. Run 93 Octane & I don't have that issue...FWIW.
Great RR & Safe journey home
We have been running exactly the same fuel though, good or bad....
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Old 07-17-2011, 06:40 PM   #367
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Thanks about grading but if you knew me you would know I call things as I see them..the grate the crap outta of the roads. But yes i did mean grade and if you saw my video I also wrote goggle versus Google. Being tired...yeah, not...i do stuff like that all the time tired or not. We need a beer...just a a mid afternoon nap.

Sorry,I do road construction and couldn't help it.

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Sorry,I do road construction and couldn't help it.

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Old 07-17-2011, 08:22 PM   #369
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The stalling issue

I have a 2012 Tiger 800XC. I have been reading about the stalling issue. It has become a common thing... Same symptoms as yours, happening only when it is warm. I've heard of three theories:

1. ECU Tune - check what version of the tune you have on the bikes when at the dealer and they will update with the latest version if needed. This has solved problems according to some. For others, updating the tune was the cause of the problem. Go figure... Don't mess with the one that is working... I have also heard that the Arrow tune (the one that comes with the exhaust, although people have used it with regular exhaust) will also solve it, but you will suffer with lower fuel economy, about 5 to 10%, I hear. As of July 11th, these are the tune your bikes should have:


XC ABS:
Standard exhaust - 20496
Arrow exhaust - 20494


2. Throttle position sensor. It may need to be re-calibrated. By the the description of the case, I doubt this is the issue, though.

3. Balancing of the throttle bodies. Some people claim this will solve it. When you get to the dealer, they can plug the bike to the computer and figure out whether the throttle bodies are within spec or not.

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4. Throttle cable slack. Some people claim adjusting by reducing the slack works.

5. A combination of the several items above.
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How do I know this? My bike has developed something not as bad as what you have. Mine happens when the idle lowers, after engine is warm and has been idling for a while (here are two videos of it, one with the bike in neutral, the other with the bike in 1st hear, clutch pulled all the way). In my case it happens only when I blip the throttle. In both cases you can hear how the engine, when re-started, idles slightly higher.

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1st Gear, Clutch all the way:



I've been researching it and found, up to know, some 40 people who have reported stalling problems on these bikes in the Tiger 800 forum in the UK. I have an MS Word document that is 14 pages long where I've compiled every case reported (and some cases claim it is solved) up to about the middle of June 2011.

Please send me a PM if you would like a copy of it and I will attach it to an email message.

Best of luck on your travels. I'm following along and I'm enjoying it.

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Old 07-17-2011, 08:47 PM   #370
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This is a great ride report.
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Old 07-17-2011, 09:28 PM   #371
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Great pictures and a great report.
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Old 07-17-2011, 09:47 PM   #372
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Great to hear you did the Dalton safely. Good job! Sounds like you are having on heck of a time. Stay on your guard and continue to ride safe. Hope you get the staling issue resolved. Report is excellent, thanks for posting.
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Old 07-17-2011, 11:11 PM   #373
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0 KM - Clean up day

Last night did not end until about 0100 in the morning. After a long ride from Deadhorse to Fairbanks we desperately needed showers and then of course we we wired and it was difficult to get to sleep before about 0100.


I was up at the crack of dawn as per my usual routine and Cheryl slept in to about 0830. I did laundry and the BLOG before breakfast.



We met Ray and walked down to the Sourdough for breakfast but first all of us unanimously decided we needed to do this before we even ate.



Ray’s bike. We will be saying our good bye’s to Ray tomorrow as he heads towards BC, Canada and we head towards Denali Highway.





Cheryl’s bike



Leslie’s bike



After the power wash. Costs $3 for 3 minutes. We all used $9 each.






Quick stop at Lowes about 5 KM away from the dorms for more cleaning stuff and batteries for my SPOT



Back at the dorm we all did a little detailing on the bikes to make them look somewhat cleaner. Ray and Cheryl did a better job than Leslie. Leslie gets bored doing this stuff.



Cheryl’s bike cleaner and chain sort of cleaned and lube. Ran out of chain cleaner will have to pick up some soon. We do not use gas or WD40.



My bike



This is what are rooms looks like when we are charging things. I usually have way more items plugged in than this.



After the in the parking lot detail of the bikes, we took naps. We sleep so hard that we both thought it was tomorrow. Woke up and what do we do? Need to eat again. Back out with Ray to the Sourdough again for a tasty dinner and dorm room time to relax and get ready to our departure of Fairbanks once and for all to head to the Denali Highway, another off road event to get to Denali the park.



Back tracking a little but we have time and our clean bikes will become a mess again because more rain is predicted for tomorrow. Today, nothing but sunshine because we were not riding the bikes.





walking to dinner















Have to walk up these stairs to get to our dorm. Good thing after the meal we just ate. Now, sort of planning the next part trip and playing it day to by day.
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Thumb University Of Alaska at Fairbanks Dorm Info

UAF Conference Services
732 Yukon Drive
PO Box 756860
Fairbanks, AK 99775

(907)474-6769, (907)474-6423 fax



housing@uaf.edu


Our rate this summer 2011 is $46/per night per room, not per person. You get linens, pillows, towel and soap, free showers, free laundry (need to supply laundry detergent), decent parking if you are in the dorm by the check in center.


Well worth the pit stop before and after the Dalton Highway or passing through Fairbanks.
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:42 AM   #375
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What a great report!!

I am really enjoying your RR. I appreciate how much daily effort you put into this. It feels like we are along on the ride. Good work. Those mosquitos are the size of small birds!! Living in Florida-those damn things are a given but WOW
Question--would you say that that the proper tires are the #1 absolute must have for any Alaska trip?
Thanks gain for everything..Ride safe.
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