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Old 06-05-2014, 02:26 PM   #1
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Changing Oil Filter gone wrong

I've been putting my bike back together since I replaced the rear main seal. I would have been done with the bike last night. The last step was to change out the oil filter and then put fresh oil in. This is a 71 R75/5.

I removed the filter plate. Made a wire hook and pulled out the old filter. Then I looked at what came out and the last farthest in part wasn't in my hand?
I looked way down in the hole and there it is, the end plate of the filter with the rubber ring that holds it tight to the internal metal tube. So I spent over an hour with a mirror and a magnet and a wire hook trying to get out of there. No luck. I was so frustrated that I decide to call it a night. I'll be thinking all day about how to get that out. Any suggestions?
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Old 06-05-2014, 02:28 PM   #2
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Old 06-05-2014, 02:41 PM   #3
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Yep.

The wire hook trick, maybe two hooks to work it out side-to-side. Or a LONG hemostat or long needle-nose pliers to grab the lip of the end cap. Never had the end cap come off of a filter. It must really be stuck on with the rubber ring, or something, to make it that hard to remove. Don't s'pose the PO used a gasket sealant... ???

Good catch checking it out.

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Old 06-05-2014, 03:34 PM   #4
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I found a special pair of Hemostats at the Ranger Surplus Store once. Used them for just this problem although I do think you can do it with a hooked piece of wire or a hook tool. The Hemostats did not work like a pair of scissors. Instead one arm slid along the other arm and this action operated the tip which would open and close.



They are called Alligator Forceps. Maybe a little overkill but a neat tool, huh?

I don't remember what I paid for these. They were cheap at the Surplus Store. But at a regular medical supply store I'm sure they cost more. Probably better quality too.
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Old 06-05-2014, 05:46 PM   #5
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sounds like every job Ive ever done on an airhead. "I told you that story to tell you this one"
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:32 PM   #6
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It doth goeth with the territorye...



With Airheads, we get to use a lot of interesting tools, and as Airheads, get wear a lot of, uhh, classic gear...

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but a neat tool, huh?
Dang. Gotta have one.


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Old 06-05-2014, 06:36 PM   #7
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Bill,

I think the one I bought at the surplus store was about $12 or $14 but I'm not sure. The one in the picture I found on the Net was listed for $35.
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:24 PM   #8
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Yeah, it happens from time to time. I usually get the old ends out with a couple of hooks made from welding rod. It used to happen more frequently back when BMW used o-rings on each end of the filter instead of the integrated o-rings. Not sure what the difference was between the old and new filters that made them lose their ends easier or maybe it was just a coincidence. There have been times I've pulled out a whole filter and there was still an old end plus an old o-ring still in there. Always a good idea to shine a flash light in there just in case.
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Old 06-05-2014, 08:20 PM   #9
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The end of the filter breaking off is a bummer. maybe with charlie's hemostat you can slowly bend the edges down enough to free it. I say grab a beer and a bunch of fidly wire bits, throw a cushion on the floor, headlamp on, and turn the wheel to the right. Sit down on yer ass and drag it out.
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Old 06-05-2014, 08:35 PM   #10
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Airheads are great and all, but in this one area, oilheads rule supreme.
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Old 06-06-2014, 02:49 AM   #11
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I had to sacrifice one of my wife's fondue forks to get the rubber O-ring out.
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Old 06-06-2014, 03:30 AM   #12
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Try this one: Bent a loop in a rigid thin steel wire, just big enough for the outer diameter of the filter. With this try to reach behind the metal lid placing the loop round the oil filter tube. Pull.....

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Old 06-06-2014, 04:18 AM   #13
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Airheads are great and all, but in this one area, oilheads rule supreme.
Wrong.
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Old 06-06-2014, 05:15 AM   #14
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Wrong.
'Uhsplain please. I've never seen a thread on getting an oilhead filter free, and have never had any trouble getting mine free. All this talk has me quaking to change the oil in my R100GS!
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Old 06-06-2014, 05:27 AM   #15
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I would consider removing the pipe which attaches to the oil filter: http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fic...01%20263%20342

This is one of the reasons I only use Mahle or OEM oil fiters. Although, I expect the oil filter in question has been in the engine a very long time. Good luck!
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