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Old 06-20-2011, 04:23 PM   #46
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I'm subscribed, working towards another soon, here's the two I've had;
both fit into the even humungous home built! category!
Neither bike had leading link, just preloaded forks [waterpipe!] & no steering damper on either!


'74 Waterbottle


Dad having go @ riding the beast in '81, was a headshaker @ low speed [if you let it!]


'75 XS650 combo I built in '86, no bad manners, just underpowered, chair was too heavy!
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Old 06-20-2011, 08:58 PM   #47
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As I typed up the top, I've had four sidecars, on two different bikes. I've only got one of the sidecars now, but still got both bikes!

I recall the first time I ever saw a sidecar. It was on a Guzzi and I reckon I was around 14, just getting bitten by the bike bug. I couldn't, for the life of me, understand why you'd put a sidecar on a bike. Put it down to in-experience.

The first sidecar interest was created when I lived in Lismore from 1984. There was a fellow by the name of Geoff who got around on an XS with a home built single chair. By about 1986 there were about 9 sidecars getting around Lismore! There'd been a minor explosion in popularity.

I'd scared myself shitless by taking Geoff's XS for a ride over to Byron Bay, Ballina and back. Actually, the scared shitless bit was only fo the first hundred or so metres, when it went left on the gas and right when I changed up and, around 20 minutes later, the first time I tried to ride it around a left hand curve, on the Bangalow Rd, near Clunes. Well, it was a great set of bends on the solo, so I attacked them in the same way. pharque moi!

Anyway, by the time I got back to Lismore I'd convinced myself to shell out the cash for the single sidecar that was sitting under Geoff's house.
That was fitted up and I picked it up one arvo, rode it home (5km), had a quick chat with the opposition leader and rode back to Geoff's work and got him to fit a leading link to it. Much better.

Quite a few miles on that one. It was sheet metal riveted to a square section tube frame. The square driving light in the nose and the big wedge screen were pretty ugly.
The in-board, torsion arm suspension using a Koni shock mounted on a long threaded rod worked great. You could load it up and then re-adjust the sidecar ride height with a shifter inside a couple of minutes. One nut to set the height and another nut to lock it.
12" Moke wheel (I think), with the park brake on the sidecar wheel.
The seat pivoted at the front to get into the boot space and an old top box frame was bolted on the back, so the top box could used on the rear.

It even had a push button AM AND FM radio!

I also discovered, on the Casino - Grafton Rd, that trying to ride it as fast as a solo only leads to frustration. It was the first trip on a sidecar and by the time I got to Grafton I was ready to "fuck this thing off!!!"

Then I got onto the Pacific, we were going to South West Rocks, amongst traffic, so I had to slow down.

What a revelation!

By the time we'd finished the weekend and I'd done a few hundred kays in cruise mode, I was hooked.

Mine is the single on the left of view. Geoff's V2 on the right.



The only real negatives were that I eventually realised that I couldn't be restricted to a sidecar, I needed a solo as well;
The perspex screen kept cracking around the drill holes;
Maybe because it was sheet metal, it was freezing inside up on the New England tableland during winter - Laura ended up inside her sleeping bag, and was still cold.

I fixed the first issue by buying a KLR650 - my very first 'trail' bike and my real introduction to all road touring - get off the bitumen!

The other problems, I just put up with them until I bought Geoff's wider, fibreglass sidecar when I moved to Sydney in 1993.

Other than that, it was very much home made. I had absolutely no clue, so just accepted it as it was. But, it was home made. The finish was function before any consideration of form.
It was so robust that it is probably still being punted around, somewhere. Maybe Nimbinwith all the old Falcons and Kombis.


The weekend at South West Rocks was a meet up with some people from Sydney, or Newcastle or somewhere south.


Neil had a 750F2. The stub axle bent on this trip. It's so long ago, I can't recall if anything was done, other than finger pointing and 'tut tut' comments, until he got it home.
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Old 06-21-2011, 01:08 AM   #48
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some commonality here Ray...can you spot it...
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Old 06-21-2011, 05:37 AM   #49
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commonality!

Guess that would be the jacket then.
Good to see all the different rigs,I had a MK4 Lemans with a DJP on it,however I managed to find a tree one night and that as they say was that.Dont have another yet but like the look of some of these and fear the bug may be biting again.They all look like fun.
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Old 06-21-2011, 06:49 PM   #50
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Guess that would be the jacket then.
Good to see all the different rigs,I had a MK4 Lemans with a DJP on it,however I managed to find a tree one night and that as they say was that.Dont have another yet but like the look of some of these and fear the bug may be biting again.They all look like fun.
Cheers Jason
How'd the LeMans handle that outfit idea?
Also, all wheel Gurus - what's the go with wheel diameter/size changes in relation to speedos? any specific formulas? [ apart from basic physics! ]
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Old 06-21-2011, 09:33 PM   #51
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Use a speedo healer, the smaller the wheel the faster it reads, mine was about 18kph out with a 15" wheel.

So at 78 on the dial I was doing 60 (ish) over the ground.
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:08 AM   #52
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Guess that would be the jacket then.
Good to see all the different rigs,I had a MK4 Lemans with a DJP on it,however I managed to find a tree one night and that as they say was that.Dont have another yet but like the look of some of these and fear the bug may be biting again.They all look like fun.
Cheers Jason


....is your name Ray...is it...how rude...
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:52 AM   #53
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Use a speedo healer, the smaller the wheel the faster it reads, mine was about 18kph out with a 15" wheel.

So at 78 on the dial I was doing 60 (ish) over the ground.
Hhhhhmmmm - OK, gunna bend your ear on this one lout, when I catch ya @ Dargo?
So overall diameter is the main problem & there's no real adjustment available like in different speedo drives?
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:21 AM   #54
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the simple and cheap way out....cos I am a tight arse

a bicycle speedo on the front wheel?
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:37 AM   #55
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How'd the LeMans handle that outfit idea?
Also, all wheel Gurus - what's the go with wheel diameter/size changes in relation to speedos? any specific formulas? [ apart from basic physics! ]
Cheers
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Evening,
Lemans was a hoot to ride,only had the standard forks on it though so I dare say it would have been more fun with a leading link setup.
Hows your parts collecting going,hope you get yours done and on the road.
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:42 AM   #56
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Oops. . . . .there there!

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Thought it was an open Quizz, Guess not then.
Have a nice day. Jason
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Old 06-23-2011, 01:40 PM   #57
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Evening,
Lemans was a hoot to ride,only had the standard forks on it though so I dare say it would have been more fun with a leading link setup.
Hows your parts collecting going,hope you get yours done and on the road.
Cheers Jason.
So no bad habit such as headshaking?, and did you preload the forks?
Starting to assemble some bits and pieces, have too many projects going on so this outfit project is still a sleeper for awhile longer I think,
If I go with an XS650, I'll be seriously looking @ some powering up of the motor, probably 750 kit to start, Delorto pumper carbs & another enlarged fueltank.
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:21 AM   #58
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good stuff

Did alot of riding with my then wife and our three boys. They went everywhere in the outfit.



This is us leaving to go down to Bathurst for the side car rally
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:35 AM   #59
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Did alot of riding with my then wife and our three boys. They went everywhere in the outfit.
This is us leaving to go down to Bathurst for the side car rally
How'd you fit them all in? three wide in the chair?
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Old 06-24-2011, 04:34 PM   #60
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like this

They fitted no worries. 3 abreast, double HRD. They still talk about the fun times today. All grown up now

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