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Old 07-31-2013, 11:46 AM   #1
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Anyone know anything about a 1980 kz440b?

I went and test rode one for sale.
Minor oil leaks, minor rust, starts, runs and shifts well, old tires, but most stuff is there (the big stuff anyway), new chain and sprockets.
The poor lady rides it, and has it listed for $950.00 and I was thinking $850.00 cash because she looks to need the money more then I do!

Did these bikes have points or something else?

Two things turn me off about the bike, a stock I guess 2 into 1 exhaust (rusty) and no kick starter.

I plan on putting dual sport tires on it and using it as a general purpose street and dirt road bike, so it does not have to look nice.

I did like the feel of the bike, and it seemed to run well up and down the street. No smoke, and the motor seemed very smooth.


Anyone here have any info on these bikes?
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Old 07-31-2013, 07:55 PM   #2
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I had an 81. It does not have points, it has electronic ignition. Frankly from your description, at that price I'd pass. You should be able to get a mint one for that price.
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:46 PM   #3
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Brett,
The '80 did indeed have points ignition; the '81 had TCI. No kick starter on any of the 440s. The "B" had drum front brakes (LTDs and fairly rare "G" had single disk); more upright frame/seating than LTD; 18" spoke wheels f/r (others had cast wheels in differing sizes); 2-1 exhaust (connects right before the right muffler) was OEM for the B, all others got twin exhausts (and all are too low for off-roading); good thing - all KZ400/440 exhausts can interchange. Suspension is OK for street use but has no range or damping for off-road. Her price sounds high to me too - especially considering you will need new tires/tubes. Also check charging system and battery age.
All things KZ twin - http://www.armbell.com/forum/index.php?mforum=kz400
If you do get it, I have a NOS front fender and a pretty good seat.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:41 PM   #4
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I did not know the 80 had points.

I traded my 81 to my dad for an old Honda, he hasn't ridden it in years now. I might have to dig it out & sell it for him. Next time I'm there I'll take a pic, it WAS. near mint and stock when he took possession..,
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Old 08-01-2013, 08:17 PM   #5
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Thanks for the info.
My wife put her foot down, telling me not to get a rusty bike for that price.
Oddly enough, it seems to have sold as its no longer listed!

It was in rough shape and looked nasty, wrong side cover on one side, bashed front fender, cracked rear fender, rust all over (spokes, exhaust) screwed up spark plug wires, dirty leaking engine, and the bike ran VERY well!
I really liked the bike overall, despite it being a POS.

One of these bikes would do better in the dirt then some others I have had I suspect.

I would be looking for dual exhausts and the kick starter, so that means a kz400 I suppose.
Spokes and a drum brake would also be nice.

I did some research, and unlike most other bikes, its a 360 degree twin, with the points on the end of the crankshaft, which is why I did not see a timing cover on the head...
Its a really smooth twin!
The exhaust also had a very nice sound.
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Old 08-01-2013, 08:45 PM   #6
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I did not know the 80 had points.

I traded my 81 to my dad for an old Honda, he hasn't ridden it in years now. I might have to dig it out & sell it for him. Next time I'm there I'll take a pic, it WAS. near mint and stock when he took possession..,
There's a guy here in Old's Cool (and cross-posted at Do The Ton) that converted his 440 B into a mild cafe. If your dad's is in good cosmetic condition and could be resurrected it might also be a good candidate.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:18 PM   #7
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I was up at the cabin and snapped a pic. It's not too bad. The stars & stripes are tape, so that's easy to remedy. The side covers are there but he removed the badges, but I know they are around... Somewhere. At least the key is still in it. I tried it, battery is dead as a doornail but it was running a few years ago. Come spring I might hose it off, clean the carbs and put it on Craigslist. Or do the Slimey Crud Run, who knows.

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Old 08-22-2013, 06:07 AM   #8
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That just makes me sad....
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:09 AM   #9
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They are a rat bike at the best of times,could get a person to work and back.
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That just makes me sad....
Don't be sad. If anyone should be sad about it I should. That was my first-ever brand new bike. But, it's lived a good useful life, I rode the heck out of the thing. Next spring I will get it running & sell it to someone that will appreciate it. The big question is, do I wash it & take off the stripes, or just clean the carbs & tank, leave it all dirty, put in a new battery and sell it as "barn fresh"? :-)
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:03 AM   #11
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I had a 440 and a 750, like all 90's bikes, occasional electrical gremlin, carb issues and spaghetti forks, but OK to tool around town and ride to the lake.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:21 AM   #12
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I would clean it up.

If you want top $ list it on ebay, prices on old bikes seem to be crazy there, at least for anything I want.




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Don't be sad. If anyone should be sad about it I should. That was my first-ever brand new bike. But, it's lived a good useful life, I rode the heck out of the thing. Next spring I will get it running & sell it to someone that will appreciate it. The big question is, do I wash it & take off the stripes, or just clean the carbs & tank, leave it all dirty, put in a new battery and sell it as "barn fresh"? :-)
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I'm headed up with my trailer this weekend to bring it home & get it going. Hopefully a carb clean & new battery will get it going.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:53 PM   #14
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I wish they made bikes like that now.

The sr400 is coming, but the KZ400 would be nice also.
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Old 05-17-2014, 11:36 AM   #15
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A wee bit pricey, but....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191169001874
I had also seen that bike. It has a KZ1000P (police) seat/floorboards/forward-mount rear brake, a set of KZ400 Delux hard saddlebags/frames, and either a KZ400 B or 1978 KZ400 tank (has a raised center section and more squared-off tail). All nicely integrated into the LTD frame work.
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