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Old 05-27-2014, 04:14 PM   #211
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The New ParaPull thread is located here...

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=24257982#post24257982
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Old 05-28-2014, 04:43 PM   #212
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You obviously know what you are talking about, thanks. I've been piecing the kit together only on paper so far and was going to go with 8 mm static line, but smaller pack size would be nice. Do you have any concerns (fouling, slipping out of track, etc.) with the 4 mm size and these pulleys designed for 7-11 mm? Looks like the tolerance is so tight there shouldn't be a problem, correct?
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You shouldn't run into any problems with those pulleys and the smaller cord. Fouling is more of a function of cord management, although I find that spectra cord tends to give me problems as it doesn't like to play nicely sometimes.

Since Pak-Meister has resurrected the EZ-Pull and included some sort of locking mechanism, which makes the prusik cords redundant, there's now some value added in their system. I'll refrain from any further comments in this (their) thread.

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Old 05-29-2014, 09:09 AM   #213
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You shouldn't run into any problems with those pulleys and the smaller cord. Fouling is more of a function of cord management, although I find that spectra cord tends to give me problems as it doesn't like to play nicely sometimes.

Since Pak-Meister has resurrected the EZ-Pull and included some sort of locking mechanism, which makes the prusik cords redundant, there's now some value added in their system. I'll refrain from any further comments in this (their) thread.

- Ken
OK, but I don't think this is "their" thread, the OP appears unrelated and PM started a dedicated thread for their new product.

PM can correct me if I am wrong, otherwise, please share your thoughts on their system as you develop them if you are so inclined. Knowledgeable commenters on this forum are hard to find!
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:13 PM   #214
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it'd be nice if you posted better pictures so folks could see what they are getting. kudo's to you for actually bringing a much needed product back.

I'm already covered with setup using aluminum double pulley. but would have gladly purchased super slick original setup if that was available at the time. got far as trying to send paypal before finding out original setup was NLA.

weight is 8.8oz and plenty strong enough to rescue a R80G/S ..


which led me to search for my current solution of using aluminum double pulley and stiff mini rope.
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:13 PM   #215
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OK, but I don't think this is "their" thread, the OP appears unrelated and PM started a dedicated thread for their new product.

PM can correct me if I am wrong, otherwise, please share your thoughts on their system as you develop them if you are so inclined. Knowledgeable commenters on this forum are hard to find!
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My advise to anyone with a "need" for a pulley system and a desire to put a kit together would be to get some quality components and learn how to use them. All of these can be done fairly easily.

Learn what a self-tending prusik is all about. It will make life easier for you if you do have to haul a bike out of a hole somewhere.



Learn what a "C-pulley" and a "Z-pulley" system is and what kind of mechanical advantage they provide.

Do you like to have other people do things for you (i.e. full service)? Buy a pre-assembled kit.
Do you still wash your own car? Put a kit together and move on. It's just pulleys and cord after all.

Whether you go full-service or self-service, the components are worthless with the knowledge of how to put them into action.

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Old 06-02-2014, 01:15 PM   #216
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My advise to anyone with a "need" for a pulley system and a desire to put a kit together would be to get some quality components and learn how to use them. All of these can be done fairly easily.

Learn what a self-tending prusik is all about. It will make life easier for you if you do have to haul a bike out of a hole somewhere.



Learn what a "C-pulley" and a "Z-pulley" system is and what kind of mechanical advantage they provide.

Do you like to have other people do things for you (i.e. full service)? Buy a pre-assembled kit.
Do you still wash your own car? Put a kit together and move on. It's just pulleys and cord after all.

Whether you go full-service or self-service, the components are worthless with the knowledge of how to put them into action.

- Ken
Yeah, that's pretty much all been said in this thread, ad nauseum. Plenty of wiki and youtube info on all that, but thanks anyway. I would like to see and hear what their patent-pending device looks like and how it operates (without needing prusiks). If you don't care to offer an opinion on that or your post was for others (that you assumed had not read the thread), I understand. Otherwise, hopefully they will release a pic and specs of their device soon. I believe they are away at a trade show.
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Old 06-02-2014, 05:26 PM   #217
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Yeah, that's pretty much all been said in this thread, ad nauseum. Plenty of wiki and youtube info on all that, but thanks anyway. I would like to see and hear what their patent-pending device looks like and how it operates (without needing prusiks). If you don't care to offer an opinion on that or your post was for others (that you assumed had not read the thread), I understand. Otherwise, hopefully they will release a pic and specs of their device soon. I believe they are away at a trade show.
Yeah, I guess you may have read a little too much between the lines in my post and I should have been more explicit. What I should have just said was I cannot see where you can get a nearly $90 value added from whatever device they have a patent on. Sorry I wasn't clear.
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Old 06-03-2014, 08:54 AM   #218
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Yeah, I guess you may have read a little too much between the lines in my post and I should have been more explicit. What I should have just said was I cannot see where you can get a nearly $90 value added from whatever device they have a patent on. Sorry I wasn't clear.
My apologies, you're right. And if that is your point re the $90 part, I agree. And I'm sure it's more useful in the grand scheme of things for me to become proficient in line management and use of prusiks and knots and such (with practice beforehand of course) then to rely on a single, likely overpriced (relative to known options) component.
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