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Old 06-25-2011, 06:12 AM   #1
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What works in the rain what doesn't

Please post ur experiences on what works and what doesn't.....

Took a ride to Baker City Oregon last weened in a pouring rain.......about 6 hours.........

Bike: 04 Honda VFR 800 ABS

Helmet Shoei RF 1000 with clear shield treated with Nikwax Visor Proof on outside and Motosolutons Fog tech on the inside.....The only part of this combo that worked well was the visor proof keep the rain off the outside...But once wet the fog tech was worthless....and the fogging was twice as bad..... just couldn't see.. PINLOCK on order....

Gloves MSR cold pro - these turned into sponges...EPIC FAIL

Jacket Olympia GT Transition with rain liner under....and heat liner...I didn't realize how wet I was tell I stopped and turned off the jacket liner and realized the t-shirt underneath was soaked..... FAIL

Pants Aerostich Darien with Serria Trading rain pants (mostly for wind break) I was dry dry dry dry WORKED FAWLESS

Boot TCX (forget the model) there the ones that replace the Oxtar Matix... My feet where bone dry....WORKED.....

So from the waist down I was a happy camper and up top not so much.

lets hear ur stories...

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Old 06-25-2011, 06:47 AM   #2
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Bike: '07 GSA

Weather: Constant deluge in Monongahela National Forest

Gear: HJC Carbon - meh. Dry but foggy

5 year old Firstgear Teton jacket -- total fail, soaked all the way through, arm zippers leak like a sieve

5 year old Firstgear HT overpants -- total fail, soaked the crotch in no time

Sidi Canyon boots -- only dry part of my body
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:17 AM   #3
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Bike: '03 Concours with a 25.5" Cee Bailey windshield

Weather: constant rain ranging from stead shower to deluge while riding eight hours on the expressway a couple of years ago.


HJC CL-12 full face. I wiped the shield with this anti-fog cloth for ski goggles, and it worked okay.

3 year old Darien Jacket and pants

Olympia unlined gel-palm gauntlets. Not even remotely waterproff nor intended to be.

Tourmaster Solution boots

Result: I was bone-dry except for my gloves/hands.
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:36 AM   #4
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Waterproofing in a jacket or pants is always going to be sketchy. It will go long before the piece of gear has worn out in other respects. I prefer to keep a rain suit to go over whatever I may be wearing at the time - can be replaced cheaply as needed.

Right now I have these:

The only time they let me down was the pants - I wore them backwards once on accident
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:38 AM   #5
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Location: Snow in New Mexico
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Bike: BMW Rockster (naked with a windshield and handguards)
Pants and jacket: Doesn't matter - Triumph Chevron one piece rain suit. Works great in the Southwest, you might steam in the East.
Helmet: Arie Profile, fogs, forcing you to open the face shield, which lets water in. Not great.
Boots: Doesn't matter - Tourmaster boot covers. Works great.
Gloves: Again I use a rain cover. Works OK.
Handguards don't help much with keeping rain off the gloves. They do keep most of the bugs off though.
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:56 AM   #6
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Helmet: Arai vector. Great helmet, but I use no fog products so it fogs and opening it up can let in a bit of water down the back of the screen... OK, but the weakest link. Got to sort out the fogging issue.
Jacket: bmw RP2. I got this jacket without the liner and instead wear a TAD Gear eVent hardshell ('Raptor' or something like that) as an under liner. Absolutely Awesome hardshell- I did all the research and cannot recomend this American product enough. (this also doubles as an actual waterproof jacket I can wear while traveling- unlike the stock bmw goretex liner which I would struggle to wear on its own). This hardshell is completely waterproof and breathes a lot better than goretex- and it also has a range of venting capability which comes in real handy. In really cold weather I can wear the fold out hood under my helmet. It really works great.
Gloves: bmw goretex winter gloves. Bone dry all the time. If it is hot and wet, then I just wear my leather gloves and have wet hands.
Pants: bmw RP2 with stock goretex liner. Bone dry all the time, though doesn't breath as well as eVent.
Boots: bmw Savannah (goretex). Bone dry all the time.

In short, if I do up my gear properly and take care of the finer details (neck, wrists, waste) then I can ride through absolutely pouring rain for hour after hour and stay bone dry on the inside. Of course the bmw inner-liner thing leaves you with a saturated and heavy 'outer' suit. A compromise of course- one that some may not like but that I am quite happy with. I can wear this one suit with or without liner and layering in sub-freezing to over 40C temps.

If I commuted instead of traveled on my bike I would get more gear that was more season specific- or maybe at least a one piece waterproof over-suit.
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Old 06-25-2011, 05:16 PM   #7
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Summer and warm weather I always carry my rain suit, Frog Toggs that about 3 yrs aols and the pants need to be replaced. After 1hr in the rain the crotch gets wet. The top still works very well and keeps my Tourmaster Intake mesh jacket dry.
Gloves, I have no gear for that. I need to get some covers.
Boots, Astars that are waterproof and still work well after 4 yrs.
Helmet, Arai. It fogs a bit but I can still see.

Winter: (anything below 70F)
Jacket, Olympia AST works very well in the rain.
Pants, Olympia Ranger II also waterproof and work very well.
Boots, same as above.
Gloves, Gerbins electric gloves.
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Old 06-25-2011, 05:27 PM   #8
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I have never had a rain problem in one hour storms provided I put on my gear right, be it frogg toggs, Olympia liners, or a firstgear rainier. If your neck gets wet at any point, you can bet on your chest or back being wet, too.

For storms longer than an hour or so, that's why you wear gear that insulates while wet.

I agree with the guys at WBW - there is no such thing as waterproof riding gear, just varying levels of water resistant. And they all lose water resistance with time and use.
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:31 AM   #9
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First Gear rainsuit: Works well but hot and muggy, pants leg will melt on pipes.

Frogg Toggs: OK in light rain, real nice in southern heat. Pants leg will melt and the suit itself is a fire hazard near an open flame. Ask my wife after I threw her on the ground and rolled her in the dirt to put out the fire. This suit can be very dangerous.

Darian, lightweight: This is the all time winner. Mine is around ten years old and does not have the ultrasuede collar. I wish it did because the thing is a dirty mess that cannot be cleaned. This is my go to suit for cross country trips and has never leaked. It flows a lot of air if the wrists and back are vented so it works well in the summer too. I have toured in 26 degree temps with the electric liner blasting on top of polartec sweats across five states. This suit does it all.
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:35 AM   #10
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Location: Fairbanks, AK
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Bike: 2008 WR250R

What has worked:
Klim Traverse Jacket
Aerostich Darien Jacket (sold, too bulky)
Alpinestars Sigma Drystar jacket (sold, too short at the waist to cover the tops of my pants)
Klim Stowaway rain shell (sold, regret it, needed money at the time)

Aerostich AD1 pants
Olympia Airglide2 w/ liner (sold, lost too much weight and was in between sizes)
cheap Coleman pvc rain pants from walmart

Tourmaster Solution boots
Alpinestars Scout Dryster boots

What hasn't worked:
Olympia AST - like a sponge, soaked me bad several times before selling
Fieldsheer Mercury - worse than above
Tourmaster HT Air - ok for maybe 5-10 mins in a serious storm
Cheap cycle store rain suit - wasn't waterproof, water soaked through the nylong. seams weren't even sealed lol.

What kinda worked:
Teiz Motorsports Lombard v2. Had some leaks with the vent zippers and main zipper, but it would take time in serious rain (15-20mins) and most of the leaks appeared after crashing in it at 40mph. When new and with fresh waterproofing treatment it was solid for a couple hours (longest ride).
BMW ProRain 2 - waterproof? Yes. Hard to get on over boots while dancing around on the side of the highway as the rain starts coming down? Also yes. Sweaty as hell once the rain stopped and the summer sun came back out? Yes again.
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:46 AM   #11
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What works: frog toggs rainsuit. End of story. Takes 30 seconds to put on, and all your worries about rain gear are over. Plus it breathes and is easy to open while you are riding if the rain stops and you need airflow.
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Old 06-26-2011, 02:12 PM   #12
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Full Rain Suit, as long as it keeps the water out is the only requirement i would have thought.

One of my favourites though is the old "Dishwashing Gloves" put over the top of the expensive riding gloves has to be one of the greatest ideas known to mankind????

Not a fan of riding in the rain at anytime however if my hands are wet and cold then that just makes me a very unhappy camper!!

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Old 06-26-2011, 06:09 PM   #13
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I rode 5+ hours home from Vermont a few years ago wearing Frogg Toggs, in Torrential rain the whole way home. I mean pissing down. The only part of me that was wet was my collar. I love the way that they pack so small. Can't beat them.
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Old 06-26-2011, 06:49 PM   #14
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In the summer and warm weather I use Frog Toggs. Fantastic.
For gloves I use Rev'it GT H2O gloves. Completely waterproof, even in day long monsoon rain, comfortable from about 60-80 degrees. Rev'its gloves are the only thing they make that I trust. The rest is garbage.

For cooler weather I use a First Gear Killimanjaro. Completely waterproof, all day long. The only thing is the back of my collar can get damp on the slab in monsoon rain. For pants I use the Olympia Ranger 2. Awesome pant, has kept me completely dry all day in the rain. I use TCX gore-tex Air boots all year, and they always keep me dry. For gloves I use Rev'it Tempest H2O gloves from about 60 to the mid 40's, and for anything below that I use Gerbings T5 gloves. Both keep me completely dry. They get heavy from the water, but it doesn't come through. I also have Rev'it Drystar balaclava, which I use in cool wet weather. Works a treat.
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Old 06-26-2011, 07:34 PM   #15
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Up until yesterday i used to ride an 07 FZ1(had to sell it)
Been caught in the rain multiple times in this set up with a variation on the boots.

Starting from the head down.

Helmet - AGV Stealth Shadow. A few drops come up from underneath but thats it. still not a fan though, my schnoz is a little too big and rubs the front.

Jacket - Firstgear Kilimanjaro. No complaints, works great

Gloves - Icon original Timax. Not waterproof. But i knew that, i just never did get around to buying a waterproof set. Not that i'll have to worry about that now.

Pants - Firstgear HT Overpants. No complaints, works great.

Boots - Alpinestars Ridge Waterproof boot. Work great but look like damn moon boots, i feel like Napoleon Dynamite every time i put them on. OR My work boots, Red Wing model #4445, 11inch insulated waterproof steel toe pull on. My weapon of choice for my feet. I might buy something crappy for work so i can keep these for riding.

Other than my hands ive never had any problems dealing with the elements.
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