Registration problems

[njd]

I wouldn't put it past the NJ DMV (or MVC as they call it here) to do the same.

I love California and Californians, but you guys have the absolute worst state government in the the US.

[Brooktown Geezer]

Actually, there is an exemption for Collector Vehicles. Hopefully your bike is old enough, unique enough, or has historic value (to you) that you can claim it is now collectible. I've done this on a '70s Vespa I restored, and it went through with flying colors. I don't believe there is a clear definition of what exactly makes something a collector vehicle.

Check to see if you think you qualify under vehicle code 5051 as a collector.

[btcn]

Rimmy yea I plan on moving down around there one of these days! Seriously, CA is nice, but I hate our damn government out here!

O'Hooligan I'll check into it but I think CA DMV will fuck me over in ANY possible way they can think of.

bbishoppcm that sounds nice!

njd yea I agree with you on that. Nice state, GREAT riding weather no doubt about that, but really I kind of want to move out of here soon. Not that I won't come back and ride sometimes, but theres to many things I hate. For example, around here theres NO WHERE to ride dirt bikes/quads and go muddin! The only places I know of to legally ride are a shitty little park called Metcalf in San Jose [Its OK but its kind of small and the short trails get old, and they also have weird hours and close for stupid reasons all the time], and Hollister Hills. Hollister decent, but there are really no flat trails, its all mountain climbing and such. Other than that your going to get finned for trespassing sooner or later. Sucks, I miss being able to Mud in huge open fields and open land where no one gives a damn.

Brooktown Geezer unfortunately its a 2004 so its not no antique!

As nice as it is, I'll probably be moving in a few years. I'll enjoy some riding and then get out of here. Maybe I'll just keep the 80 and register it in another state when I move.

[lowbuckrider]

Another way to avoid this is through filing a lien sale.

[Brooktown Geezer]

Sorry it won't help you btcn, but for anyone else who has an older vehicle you want to register, but don't want to pay back fees on, this link has some good info.

http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic55523

[windburn]

In Ohio you can get a historic vehicle plate by paying a one time fee for plates. It has some restrictions that will generally never be a problem.

[Brooktown Geezer]

In CA the collector exemption isn't tied to a requirement for special plates. Odd, huh?

[B02S4]

Consider yourself Kalifornicated...

[rocketmanphil]

Here in Australia South Australia in particular

we have what is called seasonal registration and as long as it is kept like that when you go to put some rego on a bike you dont get hit with all the fee's

I have 3 bikes that unfortunately for the last x amount of years I have not had not time :( to ride that when I do put some rego on it will only cost me that (about 130 for 3 months)

and now we dont need to run a label for vehicles (cars/bikes etc)

[fullmetalscooter]

I wonder if going on a trip to another state and reg it there would get rid of the fees? Theres got to be someone here that well let you use there address and then insure in that way. LIke $R#()_#$R()_#*RUIOWE I ve never ever seen that type of shit. In canada it doesn't matter. Will the frame offf the 150 work ?

[alphaBETAdog]

[QUOTE=btcn;16273621]First off I am unsure why people can't figure out how to Non-Op a vehicle. Not real hard, is it? You pay about $30-$90, and you NEVER have to worry about paying until you want to use it again! /QUOTE]

Let me get this straight; if your bike breaks down, or you just plain loose interest in it, you put it in the back of your garage somewhere (on private property - never being driven on public roads), and it sits for years, you are espected to have the forsight and pony up $30-$90 in advance for this "privilage"? Seems insane.

[der_saeufer]

Fellow Californicator here... the other posters are correct on the collector vehicle exemption to back fees, but there's another way to do it as well if you can't go that route. If you're registering a vehicle in California that's already registered to you out of state, DMV should waive the penalties that a previous owner incurred.

Since it's under 300cc, you can register it in Vermont by mail; no inspection required (the "closing of the loophole" was that bikes over 500cc need VIN inspections even if they're too old to title; bikes under 300cc aren't titled in VT even if they're brand new). Run the VT plate for as long as you're comfortable with it, then go in to DMV and get a new CA plate. Done.

Not that I'm recommending this 'cause it's illegal , but you could just leave it tagged in Vermont until you get caught.

When I moved to Sacramento with my BMW, the CA DMV was showing a pretty good amount of penalties on it because the previous owner moved from Marin County to Seattle and ignored his CA renewal notice. When I reminded the clerk that I had handed her a WA title, I didn't have to pay a dime of the penalties.

[btcn]

Originally Posted by der_saeufer

Fellow Californicator here... the other posters are correct on the collector vehicle exemption to back fees, but there's another way to do it as well if you can't go that route. If you're registering a vehicle in California that's already registered to you out of state, DMV should waive the penalties that a previous owner incurred.

Since it's under 300cc, you can register it in Vermont by mail; no inspection required (the "closing of the loophole" was that bikes over 500cc need VIN inspections even if they're too old to title; bikes under 300cc aren't titled in VT even if they're brand new). Run the VT plate for as long as you're comfortable with it, then go in to DMV and get a new CA plate. Done.

Not that I'm recommending this 'cause it's illegal , but you could just leave it tagged in Vermont until you get caught.

When I moved to Sacramento with my BMW, the CA DMV was showing a pretty good amount of penalties on it because the previous owner moved from Marin County to Seattle and ignored his CA renewal notice. When I reminded the clerk that I had handed her a WA title, I didn't have to pay a dime of the penalties.

That actually sounds like a seriously good idea! I'll really look into this, thanks for the idea!

Brooktown Geezer yea it was a good idea but it won't work in this case.

[JerseyBiker]

Even tho' you can register by mail, doesn't VT require a local address and/or VT license to register in VT?

Also, if what you wrote above is correct and under 300cc scoots aren't titled, that won't help him since he won't have a VT Title to give to the CAl DMV. He would only have a VT registration.

[Sly-one]

Originally Posted by njd

I love California and Californians, but you guys have the absolute worst state government in the the US.

You'd better watch out. I've heard the Terminator has been in a bad mood lately and takes personal offense to anyone bringing up things from the past where he is responsible.