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Old 07-08-2011, 09:06 AM   #61
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Moving to Paradox

The couple days riding with the boys was fun. Everyone packed up and left Sunday morning. I took off toward Teluride as did Matt, Ryder, and DeWayne.
.....the last I saw of Matt.... Thanks for getting us all together.
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The ride toward Teluride was majestic for sure, and took me to 10000 ft again.
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Rico is a pretty little town along there somewhere. This was June 21st and it should have been prime time tourist season, but Rico was suffering from the recession like everywhere else.
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My ride bypassed Teluride. I was headed toward Norway and Naturita, and Nucla. The last 2 towns were name for the urainium boom here in the '50s. I don't know what put a halt to uranium mining around these parts, but there are towns like Uravan just down the road that are completely gone.
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I picked up a bike behind me. I moved over and waved him by....
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....I noticed as I was traveling along the Delores River once more a little south of the Norway hill.....I was getting hungry.
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I pull into Bear boat launch area. I should have been a little more cautious. I saw a car down in there, but it didn't register that he was getting ready to come out the steep entrance, and that he probably didn't see me.
As I pulled in he was making a little run at his exit hill. There really wasn't room for 2 vehicles to pass. No way was I able to back up. He pulled over as far as he dared, and I was able to squeeze by.
It was squeeky, and with just a little more caution on my part it could all have been avoided.....but what the hell, that's what makes it an adventure, right.
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I got a stove out and heated up last nights spaghetti. I sat by the stream and looked for a raft or something to come by. Nothing but one duck came floating by. He looked like he was having a ball with the river all to himself. BTW, those pliers make an excellent pot holder....and have a 100 other daily uses.
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Finally I make it to Paradox Vally. My goal Is Glenn Case's ranch still some 20 miles away.
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I spent three days with Glenn learning how to ranch a hay farm. Glenn's wife, Enid, has roots in this valley that go back to 1880. Her great GF came here from the Ca gold rush. It is said that he had asked a mtn man where he should go as he wasn't making it in Ca. The man told him that Paradox valley was the most beautiful place that he'd ever seen. I tend to agree....
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The trouble with the valley was water. The nearby La Sal Mtns had plenty of snow pack to supply water through the summer growing season, but it needed to be managed. So back in 1890, the ranchers got together and hired a man with a team of horses and a drag bucket to dig this ditch for 5 miles along the upper side of the valley for irrigation. It's been doing it's job ever since.
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Glenn seemed very relaxed in the last picture, but I followed him for 2 days as he managed his 2 rolling irrigation lines. It was fun for me, but it was frustrating as well with all the things that went wrong that would stop the watering.
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Glen had finished bailing the hay the day that I arrived, but he still had to get rid of the hay before anything bad happened to it. It's a liability till it's sold and off the property.
Glenn had 65 ea 15000 lb bails out there at $120 dollars a bail. He gets three cutting a year. The first cutting goes for his hay making expenses. The next 2 are his profit.
He make a small fortune there, by starting out with a big fortune.
We moved hay and worked on the sprinklers for 2 days before we could take a day off. Don't get me wrong, this wasn't work for me, I was just playing with new bigger toys. I had a blast.
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Enid took good care of me. I didn't get any breakfasts like this on the trail....
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I don't want to bore you with ranching...After the hay was finished, Glenn and Enid and Buddy took me for a ride over the the La Sal mtns.....
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Old 07-08-2011, 11:19 AM   #62
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After the Harvest We took off for a ride over the La Sals. Glenn stoked up his Jeep pre-runner, and up the hill we went.

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Just look at that mountain...
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Getting closer
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We stopped by to look at Geyser Lake as it's a part of their irrigation system. The check valve was hopelessly clogged with winter storm debris. Glenn figure this would take a backhoe to fix.
Buddy had fun just the same.... He's a mtn dog, no little sticks for him
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If that small landslide gets any bigger it might take the road, up there on top, with it.
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We traveled around the Mtn on the east side. Our route went to nearly 9000 ft whereas the peak is at 12800. The valley at Paradox is routinely a 100 degrees or so. The locals all have a vacation trailer or cabin up the hill for heat relief. It's their style of air conditioning. Works for them....and the beauty of the mtn is good mental therapy as well.
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The Cocopelli trail went down there in that valley. I'd been there on my DS bike a few years ago.
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Further on we approached Castle valley on the north side of the La Sals.
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There are some great red cliffs there bordering the Co River before it gets to Moab.
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Eventually we reached the Co River. I'd never seen it so high. Nearer to Moab it was over parts of the bike path along the river.
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We finished the day off with lunch at Micky D's. I'm a big spender so I bought.
We rode back through old La Sal. They pointed out the old building where Enid's GGD started his store back in the 1880's. They pointed out the road to the defunct Cashan Copper mine. These are all places that I have to go see.
I reckon I'll have to make at least one more trip to see Glenn and Enid.

......sadly, I'll leave for the trip home in the morning......
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:51 PM   #63
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great stuff

Thanks allot for sharing this trip. I really like the minimalistic approach and you trailering the DS. Awesome
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:56 PM   #64
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Great Report

I have enjoyed this post a lot. The area you have ridden in and showed us pictures is my favorite area of the West.
I live in Va but hope to make the trip to the area again if things work out.
Thanks for such a great ride report.
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Old 07-08-2011, 02:10 PM   #65
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I like your style. If you get down to White Sands look us up.
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Old 07-08-2011, 02:18 PM   #66
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Man this has been a great RR!!! Thank you so much for taking us along. I do have to mention that you may have screwed me though...I can't get the notion of building a trailer to tow my DS bike with my Harley.

Awesome and thanks again!!


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Old 07-08-2011, 04:35 PM   #67
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Thanks allot for sharing this trip. I really like the minimalistic approach and you trailering the DS. Awesome
Hey, Linksit, your just down yhe street from me. Maybe we'll run into one another one day. I make a game out of it....how cheap can I be. Besides I can take another trip sooner. The DS is nice to have along.....but it does take 'fast' out of the equation. A few years ago that would have bothered me. Not now....now I'm looking at things, not just riding by them.

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Iloco says:I have enjoyed this post a lot. The area you have ridden in and showed us pictures is my favorite area of the West.
I live in Va but hope to make the trip to the area again if things work out.
It is a great area for sure. Can't really say it's the best. I sure had great weather this trip. I can ride and camp in the rain, but it make a big diff. I think where I have been on this trip tends to have great weather. Maybe I'll run into you out there one day.

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Lunatic says: I like your style. If you get down to White Sands look us up.
You betcha, I'd love to have coffee with you one day, and find out where the good roads are.

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Thanks for the kind words, guys. Well you've seen what I did. I bet you can improve on the idea....give it a go. I bet a Harley would pull it alright with that massive torque that you have. Besides you can gear down if you have to.
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:45 AM   #68
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The conclusion and 2 smiles....

I was up in the morning. I packed up leisurely. Enid fed me up well. There was nothing left to do but give my two great hosts a hug, and hit the road which I did about 9:30.
I traveled west, back up the La Sal creek road, past the Cashin Copper mine road. Speaking again about the Cashin Copper MineMine, check it out.
I had one other Indian destination that I'd like to check out on the way home. About 25 miles south of Tuba City there's another Indian Village on top of a 500 ft high mesa called Tewa or something like that. It's not on my AAA Indian Country map.
It seems like the Indians of the area (Navajo Nation) have been betrayed by the white man in the mental perception department. The tendency is for gringos to view the Indians and their culture, over the years and then, denigrate their ways.
It's resulted in the Indians keeping to themselves even more, and when they do allow people to view there ways it's in a controlled guided tour and quite often there are no pictures allowed.
It's that way at Tewa. I went on a tour at First Mesa which is 15 miles away and a similar village. The guide pointed out Tewa, which could harly be seen cross the lower mesa between, as we walked on her tour. So I wanted to see it. I'd like to do that on the ride home.
The trouble was that the weather report spoke of a hot front moving in. In fact it spoke of 115 degrees at The Colorado River at Needles Ca. I didn't know how that would translate to temps at Tuba City a few hundred miles from Paradox.
So I figured to make the decision about Tewa when I got to Tuba City. Well, at TC, it was a hundred degrees with the sun blazing down. I decided to save Tewa for another trip and make a Beeline to the higher elevation of Flagstaff.
In TC I broke out my cool vest. Those things are fantastic at making a hot day tolerable. Still I preferred not to linger in hot country.
It's 4000 ft at Tuba City and 7000 at Flag. The climb put a little extra stain on my Sabre. On the steeper climbs going toward Flag, I noticed a different exhaust note and a slight loss of power.
At first I wondered if I was imagining things, but further incidences confirmed that I was losing a cylinder on the longer climbs....Hummmm.... Slowing 20mph would bring the cyl back though.
I concluded that I had a fuel flow problem (probably fuel filter),and decided to go with it as I could usually maintain 60mph. From Flagstaff it would be all downhill to sea level at home with only a few climbs.
I breathed a sigh of relief at Flagstaff. I even found the right turn to get to I-40 without going through Flag's downtown. Ok, now downhill to Kingman.
I saw some news At the Micky Ds in Tuba City that said it was indeed 115 degrees at Needles. I didn't want to deal with that today so I decided to hold up in Kingman for the night.
There were more uphills sections in the ride to Kingman than I remembered. I resorted to taking advantage of the draft from trucks to help me up the hills. In retrospect I should have found an auto parts store in Flagstaff, and replaced the fuel filter with something generic.
I didn't want to deal with stripping the bike down in the heat, plus I didn't think I'd have such a struggle keeping my speed up going down to Kingman.
I checked into my favorite Motel at Rt 66 in Kingman, the 1st Value Inn, for $29 with Wifi. I decided to get to sleep early and leave at 2-3 am.
That worked well as the temps were probably only 100 at the river, but my bike suffered with the strain of the 2000 ft, 15 mile long climb going west from needles. In fact keeping my speed near 60 was a problem even using drafting when I could. A couple times when i'd start dropping that Cylinder it got so bad that I'd be on the shoulder as low as 25 mph before the fuel level in the carbs would come back. then I'd nurse it along till I could get in a truck's draft again.
It seemed like a long ride to Barstow. In reality I only lost 15 or 20 minutes, but time goes real slow when your having trouble
I took a break in Barstow and had a coffee with a burger at the junction to I-15 south. Back on the road, I could tell immediately that the 30 Degree angle change of travel to a more southerly direction helped with a little less headwind.
I only had one more episode with the lack of fuel on the last 150 miles home.
I walked in the door at 10am to be greeted with a hug as if I were a returning conqueror .......and to make the moment even better my 4 yr old GGD was there as well. Those 2 smiles made my return a holiday ......

It was good to be home......though I'd left a few things unseen. I hope to get back out there in the near future...........we'll see.
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Old 07-09-2011, 11:17 AM   #69
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Real nice report, Pete.

I'm glad the stoves are working out well. I've never fried a steak on mine.

Are you buying a New England bike again this year??

If so, I'll see you there. I hiking in NH and ME in August.

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Old 07-09-2011, 02:28 PM   #70
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Real nice report, Pete.

I'm glad the stoves are working out well. I've never fried a steak on mine.

Are you buying a New England bike again this year??

If so, I'll see you there. I hiking in NH and ME in August.

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Thanks, Tom. Yes the stoves are going strong. I made 2 more yesterday, One out of a small V8 juice can. That was the smallest I've done. I then did another one Beer can size with a Vienna sausage can inside. That makes for less than a 1/16 air space. The small air space makes them bloom very quickly.
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You're going to run out of Appalacian trail soon. You're the man.
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I also forgot to add that your photography skills are grown by leaps and bounds!! Damn near professional caliber.

And the panorama shots are National Geographic quality!!

I don't know if folks realize how much work it is to put together a report like your.

Thanks

PS this next hike will have put about 1/3 of the trail behind me. That leaves about 1500 miles to go.
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:09 PM   #72
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I also forgot to add that your photography skills are grown by leaps and bounds!! Damn near professional caliber.

And the panorama shots are National Geographic quality!!

I don't know if folks realize how much work it is to put together a report like your.

PS this next hike will have put about 1/3 of the trail behind me. That leaves about 1500 miles to go.
The secret is having the camera handy while you're riding.....a camera that takes a lot of megapixel. That way you can take a picture in the general direction while riding, then just crop out a well balanced photo from what you end up with.

Anyway, that country deserved my best effort. I'm glad you enjoyed the pictures and my BS story.

1500 miles left? 300 miles a year, you better start lining up some of the Pacific Crest Trail to tide you over.
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:25 PM   #73
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Hi,

Glad you made it back safely. What a report! Thank you for sharing, I've really enjoyed the pictures. I haven't been out that way since 1977 and never even toured by motorcycle.

Just wanted to show my appreciation and let you know who another one of your (over) 3,000 viewers was.

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Old 07-12-2011, 06:12 PM   #74
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Hi,

Glad you made it back safely. What a report! Thank you for sharing, I've really enjoyed the pictures. I haven't been out that way since 1977 and never even toured by motorcycle.

Just wanted to show my appreciation and let you know who another one of your (over) 3,000 viewers was.

Regards,

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Great, Dean. I'm glad you signed up here on ADV, and I'm glad you stuck with me to the last page. I do my best to show the west off in my pictures. The real thing is so much better, but what are you going to do?
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:22 PM   #75
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Excellent RR. Great pictures and story
I have been knocking around a few ideas for a bike trailer but that is the coolest setup. thanks
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