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Old 01-08-2011, 04:57 PM   #1
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Mendo NF Rally & BBQ May 6-8 2011

Kudo's to Cory for suggesting this now let's throw out some ideas.

I think everybody is right about the date late April or early May.
Remember mid to late May the Sheet Iron will be running and we'll
want to avoid it.

As where to camp Lett's Lake is nice just maybe a little remote for some.
Middle Creek easy to get, can ride unplated bikes from there but beginner's
may have a hard time with Sled Ridge to get to the main trails.

Penny Pines and Deer Valley are both nice locations with limited facilities
and not many campgrounds.

Lake Pillsbury Resort has all facilities and is on the lake but we really won't be very remote.

Where ever we end up there's riding for everyone. Single track double track and fire roads.
Remember though, the "M" roads don't allow bikes without plates and however unlikely a ranger may cite you.

For those of you who want to do the longer rides, trips to Stonyford or
Covelo would be great. Ride to either for lunch, fuel up and ride back.
80 to 100 mile loops are not a problem.

Depending how the winter turns out, some of the higher elevation roads,
which are close to 5000', may be impassable. There are peaks there over 8000'.
So of course that may dictate which routes are available to us.

We can also use Joel's model of the noobs DV ride, with some group meals and
organized rides.

Heck, I'd be willing to haul up my pit smoker for one night of real BBQ.
That'd keep everybody happy except the veggies.

Anyway, let's hear some more ideas.

Update and attendee list.

Reservation forms received and will be mailed 4/5.

We'll have the group site for the nights of Thursday through Sunday.

The following is the riders who have indicated they'll be at the rally,
if I missed you, pm me and I'll ad you to the list.

At the group site:

1. mootsuno
2. hotmamaandme +1
4. DaveBro
5.KLRocket
6. ixab +1
8.cme4lyt
9. duitwes
10. 3DChief + 1
12. chrish4ku
13. little twin
14. CRW
15. Capt.saveaho
16. Joefromsf
17. SpecialEd
18. Plinkerton + 1
20. SpeedRacer
21. Boney
22. Natethenewbie
23. SanGJan + 2
26. Surfr
27. mantramoto
28. rrsteves
29. mx1west + 1
31. DaFoole + 2
34. Capt.saveaho's old man
35. JustPaul
36. Lil Zing
37. Boney's + 1
39. chicando + 1
41. ramjet
42. rjnutt
43. MechEngr03
44. FYYFF
45. Frank Sosa
46. NorCalTA
47. Macadamia
48. Ravine
Staying in the non group site, trucks trailers, etc.

1.SuperSuz
2. GSNorcal
3. lastplace
4. Dan Saso
5. H8chains + 5

Remember the total number of people in the group site is 50.
People staying in non group site don't count towards the group total.
But of course they'll be there for everything except sleeping, unless
they pass out of course.
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:29 PM   #2
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MAY 6-8 is the date





Well just to post all the first ideas over on this page Ill start that off.

I said this:
I was thinking for timing IN the middle to late April OR early to mid May. Mendo gets real dusty and hot in the summer. If we do it early like April or May; there would be less dust AND there might still be some streams and creeks running to throw in the mix. It would also be cool to see a patch of snow in the high spots. Lets not forget its still pretty green with cute little wild flowers just perfect for that Kodak moment.

I have two thoughts on the location for the camping spot.

1. Lets do something different and make this a real ADVenture rally. Inmates would have to RIDE or drive/truck on easy fire roads to get to the camp site. I was thinking Letts Lake for this one. Easy to get to from Stony Ford/Fout Springs or from Upper Lake using Elk Mnt. M10. A small motor home or trailer could get there easy enough. This could lead to some folks not coming or someone getting stuck or having a hard time getting up there. its not hard to find really. Letts Lake camp ground is kind of remote making one feel they are away from the world. no showers but you are at a mountian lake that is crystal clear and the view is awsome.There are no stores up there so its bring what you need type camping. That could be cool due to its remote location. Maybe too much for others.


2. Middle Creek OHV campground on elk mnt road just north of Upper Lake. Big wide open camp ground any land yacht/ grey hound bus could get there on pavement. No showers on site but lots of room and toilets. One could leave and return the camp ground on trails. Its big draw would be its close proximity to the town of Upper Lake for food supplies hotels and the Casino.


Any ideas for camping spots for a group?


As far as rides go two loops a hard and easy. Ive ridden both solos and sidecars up there. The hard part is marking or maping it out for folks to follow. Its easy to get turned around or lost some times even with a GPS and map up there. Its a big forest with lots of trails. Trails are not makred in spots for the hard loops. Easy loop is well marked for the most part.


That should get the ball rolling


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I live on Elk Mountain Road in upper lake.

The Middle Creek CC camp would definitely be an easy place to camp, but it's not very exciting. It is close to Upper Lake though (which doesn't really have much of a grocery store), but there's definitely other stuff around. (Sentry Market is the closest real grocery store. Their alcohol section is AMAZING. :) )

Anyway, The Dry Oak camp ground is pretty cool, and I think there is a paved road that connects to it. I've never ridden the paved road, as I get there through the forest, but it might be good for people that need to take a truck or something bigger. Attached is a picture of my bike at Dry Oak. It's a pretty neat place. Lots of trees for hammock camping, and fire pits. Feels pretty remote, but easy to access.

My girlfriend is learning to ride, and should be plenty capable by then. My bike is street legal, but hers isn't, so maybe that's something to take into consideration as well. People that want to ride, but don't have plated bikes?

Parking at the Middle Creek camp may be more difficult, because they would have to truck their bikes up the road to get the the "launching" points of some of the trails.

Just a thought.

Anyway, I don't know the area too much, as I haven't lived here long, and haven't been riding dirt long, but I do live here, and I'm game for the camping trip if/when it happens.


EDIT: Oh, and I should be riding in Mendo tomorrow. The trails are finally open, at least for a couple days.

EDIT2: I guess there are some trails leaving directly from the Middle Creek camp. I know it doesn't access some, and I'm not sure if there are any "easy" trails leaving from the camp. I started to go up one a while back, and it seemed fairly difficult, at least for new riders. But maybe there is an easy way to go as well.


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I would definitely be game for a rally in Mendo NF! I could pitch in to help with some of the organization as well! I agree with the late April/early May time frame to avoid the dust and heat. As far as which campground, you all are way more familiar with the area than I am. If it is road accessible, I would bring my '30 TT, otherwise just my truck and tent. Either one is fine with me.

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Personally, I would avoid Middle Creek. For me, the big reasons to attend something like this is to get away from the yahoos. And Middle Creek is just too close to "the real world", IMHO. Penny Pines at the top of Elk Mtn. is a nice area, further away, and right in the middle of single track, but still close to the road. So I wouldn't feel comfortable leaving an empty campsite. Bear Creek is out there, but the creek crossing in the spring would be a challenge for any support vehicles.

One place I've thought of for something like this is the north end of Indian Valley Reservoir or upstream from there in the BLM area. It's not too far from gas and and stuff (Stonyford and Upper Lake) if it's needed, but also in BLM land. There are some dispersed camping areas along the creek there, and easy access to some good trails/roads to Stonyford (M5 being one) or east to Twin Valley Road. It's also accessible to any 2-wheel drive vehicle (though it's easily a 30-min drive from asphalt). The problem with this one is that it's still close to the typical day ride stuff most of us have had in this area.

The campgrounds around Pillsbury would be nice that time of year and be close to gas at the store. And trails! The drive in isn't too bad going through Potter Valley, though long. But it will put you in the middle of the forest with opportunities to hit some stuff that you may not get on a typical dualsport day ride.

To really get out there, I've also wanted to base camp at Hammerhorn or Howard Lake CG northeast of Covelo. There was a ride report on here and it looked really neat.

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Great idea guys I would be in for this. Keep up the planning and I have no idea on trails so if I could help any other way let me know.


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Old 01-08-2011, 05:54 PM   #4
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Ok with all those ideas posted above it sounds like to me we need to scout out Penny Pines a bit more (ive only blown through on a bike). I think and this is just my opinion Middle Creek or Penny Pines would be the better locations. They are closer to Upper Lake area 8 and 15 miles respectively for gas and food and lodging. Guys coming up from SO CAL wouldnt have as far to drive. We can always change it next year as the bugs get worked out. They both put you smack in the heart of the good stuff (trails).

Wanna do a Friday Saturday Sunday thing?


Like Dean said rides to Covelo,Pillsbury,Stonyford or even Indian Valley Reservior easy from there. Single track double track fire roads all right there. So we need to decide to have loops maped out for guys from camp or like the noobs DV ride its kind of a free for all just hook up with other guys and ride together? Cpt.Ron Renazco Dean Dave and I should beable to work out some good rides for guys.

Food a BBQ sounds great for one night. Also maybe a hot dog or burger chilli night. But there will be no power unless we bring it. K.I.S.S. Keep it simple stupid I keep telling myself.


Spoke to Carlie Rauseo today. He is willing to do a Talk/presentaion of some sort about his Dakar experience and his Rally Pan AM racing team at the event. For those that dont know who or what Charlie is or his Rally Pan Am

http://www.rallypanam.com/crewcr.html

http://www.rallypanam.com/

http://www.rallymanagementservices.com/

There is this guy from the USA Jonah Street who won a Dakar stage this year for Rally Pan Am ring a bell?

Charlie and his brother raced the Dakar as well so these guys are the real deal.


More info as we get it.

Just to wet the appetite thats Charlie pic by James Renazco


Lots of pics and vids on this thread. This thread is the Local Mendo Forest ride thread.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=320489&page=8







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Old 01-08-2011, 06:21 PM   #5
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If we camp somewhere that I can drag my TT, I will have a 6500w generator and a place for people to lock up anything they don't want to leave in a tent unattended. I would also volunteer it for the kitchen/food prep for any group meals we want to do.

Penny Pines is nice, but I didn't look at it for a large group, so don't know if there is enough room for everyone. Right at the end of the paved road and easy to access, but it is a steep twisty road getting up to it.

Middle Creek would be fine for camping. I would guess that most people attending would have street legal bikes, but if not, the riding area for them would be pretty limited.

I would also get there a day early and go cut a truckload of firewood to keep us entertained and visible from space!

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3Dchief that sounds great the whole trailer and generator thing.



I think someone will be around camp all the time with wifes and girlfriends etc so no need for folks to worry about that. Also most bikes in the ADV crew are plated and those that aren't guys can work around that.


Start buying maps fellas if you don't have one

http://www.fs.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsinternet/!ut/p/c4/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gDfxMDT8MwRydLA1cj72 DTUE8TAwjQL8h2VAQAMtzFUw!!/?ss=110508&navtype=BROWSEBYSUBJECT&cid=FSBDEV3_004435&navid=360000000000000&position=Feature*&ttype=detailfull&pname=Mendocino%2520National%2520Forest-%2520Maps%2520&%2520Publications








I have this one it's great matches gps trail numbers too
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:l...orest-map.html


http://www.google.com/m/search?sourc...20forest%20map
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The Warped ADV rally is April 22-25 so that week is no bueno.
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I have the same map, best map I could find of the area! I picked mine up at REI.

So it sounds like beginning of May will be the best time. Otherwise we run into Easter weekend and any earlier we will have to worry about snow.
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The upper lake ranger station has their free ohv trail map too. It's all I use and I haven't gotten lost yet. :)

I think penny pines overall is decent, but it's true that it isn't that big.

I'll be up there today with Renazco, so we'll check it out.
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I'd be stoked to attend a rally that's a bit closer to home! Also I haven't explored the MNF much. I've just ridden my dirtbike at Middlecreek once. Looking forward to meeting some new people as well! As long as it isn't the first weekend in April I'm in.

Penny Pines would work if you can get the whole place, or at least the upper portion. Otherwise I'd think it's too small for a large group. That's the only camp site I've been to up there, so I have no suggestions on what would be beter.

I have a 60,000 BTU stove that works well for cooking things like beans and soup for large groups. It even has a gridle for pancakes, etc...

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I've always wanted to rent the lookout if I had a big group that needed a home port for a weekend gathering! Anybody ever check this place out?

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Recreational Area
Status: Closed

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This rustic lookout was constructed on the western shoulder of Pine Mountain overlooking the Van Arsdale area.
It is located on an outcrop at 4000 feet in elevation, within a mixed conifer forest consisting of ponderosa pine, Douglas fir, black oak and madrone. Bucknell Creek and the Eel River are the major drainages in the area.
The historic town of Upper Lake is approximately 19 miles to the south and the Lake Pillsbury recreation area is seven miles to the northeast.
The Pine Mountain Lookout is currently accessible to modern day vehicles, but it is necessary to bring your own water and pack out your own garbage when renting the lookout.
Some other items you will need to bring with you are food, cooking utensils, bedrolls, pillows and warm evening clothes. The bunk bed has metal springs, there are no box springs or mattresses.
Please remember this site is rustic. The rental fees will help complete the restoration, and maintain the lookout.
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I'd be stoked to attend a rally that's a bit closer to home! Also I haven't explored the MNF much. I've just ridden my dirtbike at Middlecreek once. Looking forward to meeting some new people as well! As long as it isn't the first weekend in April I'm in.

Penny Pines would work if you can get the whole place, or at least the upper portion. Otherwise I'd think it's too small for a large group. That's the only camp site I've been to up there, so I have no suggestions on what would be beter.

I have a 60,000 BTU stove that works well for cooking things like beans and soup for large groups. It even has a gridle for pancakes, etc...

Cheers!
Well thats a nother vote for Penny Pines. My guess on this first event the turn out might be small ish. SO It might be good to try and rent reserve the whole thing and see how it works for size and location.

I think with this 60,000 BTU super stove and couple BBQs we should be good.





Where do the Sheet Iron guys kick off at? I thought it was over Stony area? Isnt that a big group?




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Unless we have a small turn out Penny Pines is out. There are only 10 sites
and there's no water.

So take a look at the attached link:

http://www.forestcamping.com/dow/pacficsw/mendcmp.htm

These are not all the campgrounds in the area but it's
a pretty good list. Some look pretty good.
Lots of sites for RV and tent camping alike.

The ones around the Lake Pillsbury are mostly run by PG&E.
We'll have to make sure PG&E allows bikes in the campgrounds.
I heard sometimes the camp manager won't let them in.

I'll call PG&E to check.

About the date, how's May 6-8? After Warped and probably a couple of weeks before Sheet Iron.

Also, if you have an interest in coming please say so and let's get a list going.
This will give us some idea of the size of the campground will need.
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I went up there today and checked out Middle Creek and Penny Pines. Snow on the ground the last two miles up to Penny Pines and I was amazed at the number of bikes and quads up there!

Middle Creek was really busy, with about half of the campsites in use. If it is that busy on a Sunday afternoon in January, I can't imagine how crazy it would be in May. With that said, the campground looks much better for our purposes and the facilities are much nicer. There is plenty of parking and the road is pretty good up until Middle Creek, then gets kind of nasty for cars and RV's. About 3 miles of pavement to get to the turnoff for Stonyford Trail.

Penny Pines is really small now that I look at it for group camping. Plus, out of ten campsites, only one is semi-level! Everything else would be really uncomfortable in a tent, but plenty of trees for hammocks! The advantage is that the trails and good fire road riding starts right there.

Really gave me the itch to ride, wished I was on my bike instead of in a cage!

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