Let's Tell KTM What we Would Like to See: Next Generation Adventure Bikes

[a7an]

This is simply intended to get the conversation started...

KTM currently have a unique market position and offer undiluted thrills in a market fraught with increased complexity and weight. They build exciting machines for consumers who place performance and visceral thrills above heated gimbaled latte holders.

A lot of people have expressed what they Don't want from KTM for the next generation Adventure bikes.
Let's tell them what we do want.

KTM, please keep the bikes; Amazing Off-Road, LIGHT, Simple and an Absolute Blast to Ride!!!

790 Adventure

749cc Single Cylinder Engine 65-70 BHP (More Torque Please with the Added Displacement)
310 LBS
21/18 Wheels
Bigger Tank(s) 5.5+ Gallons
Lightweight Faring & Minimal Body Work
Improved Lights
Improved Seat
Fuel Map Switch Moved to Handlebars or Instrument Cluster

Notes: Minimal Weight Added to dirt worthy 690 Enduro platform without compromising off-road ability

990 Adventure

999cc V-Twin Engine 105 -110 BHP
425 LBS
21/18 Wheels
Bigger Tank(s) 5.5+ Gallons
Lightweight Faring & Minimal Body Work
Improved Lights
Fuel Map Switch on Handlebars or Instrument Cluster

Notes: Lighter, Fewer Body Panels, Improved Serviceability, Simple
Slightly civilized 950 SE or current 990 put on a serious diet
Eat BMW F800 and Triumph Tiger 800 both on and off Road

1190 Adventure

1199cc V-Twin Engine (Based on RC8) 140 BHP
440 LBS
21/18 Wheels
Bigger Tank(s) 6.5 Gallons
Lightweight Faring & Minimal Body Work
Improved Lights
Switchable Engine Map for: Off Road, Mud, & On Road Conditions

Notes: Light, Brilliant Off and On Road
10X more fun on and off road compared to 1200 GS, 1200 Super Tenere etc.

1190 SMT

1199cc V-Twin Engine (Based on RC8) 160+ BHP
430 LBS
17/17 Wheels
Bigger Tank(s) 5.5 Gallons
Lightweight Faring & Minimal Body Work
Improved Lights
Switchable Engine Map for: Wet, Road and Track

Notes: Multistrada 1200 Crushing Power, Handling and Feel

Just a few thoughts...

[johnno950]

Cheaper parts................................that you dont have to wait weeks for

[Goti]

I see "improved lights" in every model... what's the problem with the lights? The 990 has great lights IMHO

[sonoran]

Not sure if you get the US or Euro reflector setup down in Chile but the US model headlight is crap.

Oh and a better OEM seat would be great too.

[Goti]

Originally Posted by sonoran

Not sure if you get the US or Euro reflector setup down in Chile but the US model headlight is crap.

My bad, I forgot about the EU/US differences. Yep, in Chile we get EU bikes.

[Zuber]

Finally make a 690 Adventure.

I'd like a smaller lighter 650 twin.

[Katze]

More fuel capacity. Less BS to do an oil change and different wheel size options.

Oh yeah............ A FREAKIN' WINDSHIELD THAT WORKS!!!

[Kyler]

A HUGE focus on ease of maintenance!

[aurel]

I want them to sponsors me!

[68deluxe]

Tubeless wheels

Lower weight

Fix fuel injection

Fix sidestand mount

[vabuckaroo68]

A better dealer network.

Well, also a 750 version of the 450 rally that's also street legal would be nice.

[vabuckaroo68]

Oh and some place to put a coffee mug

[Dave70]

Fcuk the next generation.
I demand an end the price gouging and poor spares back up - NOW.
Lets get the basics straightened out before we circle jerk over some KTM fantasy machine.

[raafrebel]

Originally Posted by Dave70

Fcuk the next generation.
I demand an end the price gouging and poor spares back up - NOW.
Lets get the basics straightened out before we circle jerk over some KTM fantasy machine.

I agree on price gouging! Parts are an absolute rip off in Australia.

As far as a KTM Fantasy machine, lower seat, for short ass riders like me.

[The Bigfella]

Yep. Rip a new arsehole for the Australian distributor. Price gouging pricks that they are. The service is so bad, they ought to be paying us for the waiting time.

Hey KTM ......

Are you listening, KTM?

Meanwhile, I'm having fun, ripping weight out of my 950 SE. A kilo here, a kilo there. I've added some back too - I want decent lighting, so I've built a twin 7" headlight setup. I want decent weight carrying ability, so I can actually do some adventure riding - so I'm fixing that subframe that was designed by an idiot.

So - next bike.... if my blood stops boiling over the local price gouging.... and I get to stop relying on US friends to source my spare parts (quicker and much, much cheaper that I can get them in Australia)... and its a KTM.... I want

Better lighting - if I have to slab it, I'd rather do that at night, so that I can spend more time on the decent trails. Oh yeah... and wiring to the lights that can actually handle the load.

Better seat..... why you bastards want to give everyone a sore arse is beyond me

Better switchgear - I've just junked the KTM originals and gone to aftermarket gear - I actually like to be able to use the horn and the kill switch

Less weight, lower... toolkit in a waterproof package in the sump guard, lithium iron battery, etc

Get rid of the glitches - don't mount sidestands and sump guards to the engine cases - mount the voltage regulator where it is cooler - that sort of thing.