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Old 08-09-2013, 07:24 AM   #2071
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I've been thinking of getting some fog lights but have been impressed with the stock setup myself.

Got a pic of your setup?

Don't have a nighttime pic, but this is the OEM foglights, if that is what you meant...



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Old 08-24-2013, 11:57 AM   #2072
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I am sure it has been discussed before, but has anyone changed their rear wheel to an 18inch? I think this would open up Tiger owners to many more offroad tire options.

Hypothetically, what other mods would need to be done to accomodate this change? I have read that the change in height to the rear would be about a 1/2 an inch, so geometry would not be affected too much.

At 6'4" and with a 36" inseam, I can easilly handle a taller bike. If I were going to do this mod, I would like to add more travel to the forks. Has anyone done this?

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Old 08-24-2013, 01:12 PM   #2073
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The guy that has a build thread for a 2014 Tiger is doing it but I have not heard of anyone actually having done it.
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:54 PM   #2074
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The guy that has a build thread for a 2014 Tiger is doing it but I have not heard of anyone actually having done it.
Link?

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Edit: Found it.
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:17 AM   #2075
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Here's an option for those looking for fog lights:



I just emailed Acerbis, and they are new for 2014 and due in the USA in November. Hopefully they can handle my abuse... and the occasional faceplant.

EDIT: Here's their response to use for Dual Sport use:

"Yes maybe a little dirt. I mean if you tip over in the dirt I think the metal bark buster will hold up but the LED will get damaged. It’s made of nylon type plastic which is flexible but it’s the firmer type of nylon plastic. It may crack rather than bend like most of our handguards shields. It’s the same material as our Dual Road handguard if you have seen that."
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Old 08-26-2013, 10:20 PM   #2076
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I am sure it has been discussed before, but has anyone changed their rear wheel to an 18inch? I think this would open up Tiger owners to many more offroad tire options.

Hypothetically, what other mods would need to be done to accomodate this change? I have read that the change in height to the rear would be about a 1/2 an inch, so geometry would not be affected too much.

At 6'4" and with a 36" inseam, I can easilly handle a taller bike. If I were going to do this mod, I would like to add more travel to the forks. Has anyone done this?

JG
I just got back a quote from Woody's Wheelworks. About $600 shipped for a 18 inch rear, super laced with stainless spokes and nipples and a black 18x3.5 Excel rim…

Hmmm…

Does one have to lengthen the chain or jack up the rear to accommodate a larger rear wheel/tire combo?

If you raise the rear, should you add some travel to the front to accommodate? Anyone have a source for this?

JG
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:38 AM   #2077
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I just got back a quote from Woody's Wheelworks. About $600 shipped for a 18 inch rear, super laced with stainless spokes and nipples and a black 18x3.5 Excel rim…

Hmmm…

Does one have to lengthen the chain or jack up the rear to accommodate a larger rear wheel/tire combo?

If you raise the rear, should you add some travel to the front to accommodate? Anyone have a source for this?

JG
Logically, the only thing that would change is a loss of travel in the rear (but increased ground clearance and stand-over height), increased rake that could be fixed if you could extend the fork, but most often it's set up at the top of the tubes, so you'll have to check on that. If there's a mud guard on the rear that's close, you'll have to change that out or remove it to fit knobbies and not bind the rear in the mud. The length to the axle is the same, but the drive ratio changes when you increase the tire size, so you may want to change the sprocket if you want the same ratio. Not sure if you can easily extend the rear travel, so you may sacrifice that 1/2" in the quest for perfection.
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Old 08-27-2013, 12:49 PM   #2078
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Actually it will decrease rake, but, yeah.

If you go with a bigger sprocket in the back to fix the drive ratio, you'll need a longer chain anyway. At that point you can get a chain long enough to let you move the wheel back ensuring that clearances aren't an issue. And if you're going for a primarily dirt oriented setup, I would overcorrect on the rear sprocket size to make 1st gear usable off-road. The silly narrow ratio gearbox is my only real complaint on the bike. Fix first for the dirt with a sprocket change and hose 6th for the highway.
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Old 08-27-2013, 02:00 PM   #2079
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Actually it will decrease rake, but, yeah.

If you go with a bigger sprocket in the back to fix the drive ratio, you'll need a longer chain anyway. At that point you can get a chain long enough to let you move the wheel back ensuring that clearances aren't an issue. And if you're going for a primarily dirt oriented setup, I would overcorrect on the rear sprocket size to make 1st gear usable off-road. The silly narrow ratio gearbox is my only real complaint on the bike. Fix first for the dirt with a sprocket change and hose 6th for the highway.
I already sized down one in the front. Made 1st much more useful offroad and on.

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Old 08-27-2013, 02:10 PM   #2080
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Does one have to lengthen the chain or jack up the rear to accommodate a larger rear wheel/tire combo?


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If you did want to, they make adjustable links with nice spherical bearings that are a more versatile option. I like adjustable stuff...

It's basically, two threaded rod ends with a barrel adjuster in the middle. Mine can raise and lower a few inches. I got mine to lower it slightly so I can get my feet flat on the ground. Still haven't hit the skid plate yet, even jumping trees.

I suppose, you could actually lower it 1/2" to get the geometry right and not have to mess with the fork. Not sure if it translates to 1" of suspension loss or not, but I would assume so.
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Old 08-27-2013, 03:14 PM   #2081
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I am sure it has been discussed before, but has anyone changed their rear wheel to an 18inch? I think this would open up Tiger owners to many more offroad tire options.

Hypothetically, what other mods would need to be done to accomodate this change? I have read that the change in height to the rear would be about a 1/2 an inch, so geometry would not be affected too much.

At 6'4" and with a 36" inseam, I can easilly handle a taller bike. If I were going to do this mod, I would like to add more travel to the forks. Has anyone done this?

JG
What tire exactly would you want to run then?

The 950-990's have an 18, the 950 is skinny, the 990 is wide. They have the same issue with tires as anyone else. Do you really think there's an 18 that would make it worth it?

I dunno, I'm just sayin.

And yeah, first is kinda high. But then the bike isn't a very good plonker anyway. Hmmm yeah, a 475lb trials bike. Fueling is good though, eh?

I imagine there's good dirt routes near Tahoe. Did you see the 950-990's that just did the Rubicon?
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Old 08-27-2013, 03:51 PM   #2082
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I have to agree that it does not seem worth the effort. Check out the pic thread. Guys are going over mountain passes in SW Colorado with stock tires. I'm running knobbies with stock gearing because I ride sand.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:47 PM   #2083
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:20 AM   #2084
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15th front is better everywhere except the interstate. If I had a wish, then it'd be for a granny 1st with a true over drive 6th. I use stock gearing & I can go 35mph in 6th gear. That's just ridiculous.
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:28 AM   #2085
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I am leaving VA Friday to ride the northern section of the CDR from the Canadian border south to Rawlins. I just installed a 15t front sprocket and expect it to be better for this ride.
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